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Does everyone feel like this a lot as they get older?

211 replies

Hunkkp · 07/12/2024 07:58

Or is it not that common and I need help?!

I don’t know how to explain it well, but I am basically quite often a mildly angry, frustrated and irritated woman. I can be perfectly pleasant and believe that’s how I come across most of the time as describe me as positive and upbeat and kind…. But inside I’m rarely these things!!!

Honestly, so many things make me angry inside. Bad service, traffic, the weather! I’m a miserable git. I didn’t used to be so pessimistic. Is this just life?

OP posts:
Fannyfiggs · 07/12/2024 13:06

Farimatafa · 07/12/2024 12:54

I was reading this and at the start i thought

"Wow did someone actually write a nice post on mumsnet".

And then I got to the end. And you wrote something nasty. Do you feel a need to be nasty to others. To feel some power?You had to get a nasty dig at me didn't you.

Your true colours are showing.

Edited

I didn't mean for it to be nasty, but it's what I took from your posts. You're being controversial and captious on purpose from what I can see, therefore if you do that in real life people will bite back.

Perhaps you have been unlucky in women being nasty to you but to say it was because they were angry their looks were fading is laughable.

Take a step back and read what the women are saying on this thread rather than trying to make your voice the loudest.

Take care.

Farimatafa · 07/12/2024 13:07

Threewheeler1 · 07/12/2024 13:05

OK @Farimatafa, enough now.
I think you can at least appreciate that some people's lives are very different to your own, and that there is a whole world out there where people can get sick at any age.
I'm not in my 40's, I'm in my 50's, so it's likely my circumstances, and that of many others like me, are nothing that you'd recognise so might struggle to conceptualise.
No point flogging this particular dead horse anymore.

Don't want to derail further, just wanted to say OP, I understand how you feel.
Hoping all the PP's who said it improves are onto something!

You also need to appreciate that other people's lives are different to your own.

You seemed to assume that every women has children because you do.

A lot of women don't have or can't have children.

However I genuinely understand that your circumstances are hard, that you are caring for both children and parents.

I genuinely send you a hug and I hope you have a nice December. Do something nice for yourself.

Farimatafa · 07/12/2024 13:11

Fannyfiggs · 07/12/2024 13:06

I didn't mean for it to be nasty, but it's what I took from your posts. You're being controversial and captious on purpose from what I can see, therefore if you do that in real life people will bite back.

Perhaps you have been unlucky in women being nasty to you but to say it was because they were angry their looks were fading is laughable.

Take a step back and read what the women are saying on this thread rather than trying to make your voice the loudest.

Take care.

"What the women on this thread are saying".

I'm also a woman on this thread.

We are all sharing our experiences.

It happened to me when i was younger in workplaces.

Now I'm older, I see bullying happen to the younger women in our office.

The prettiest girl in my current office is disliked by some of the older women.

They bitch about her. And her mistakes are not tolerated. Other people's mistakes are tolerated.

I genuinely think that some women being cruel to other women, is a big problem on society.

Hunkkp · 07/12/2024 13:17

Haven’t read all the posts yet but I am surprised and strangely reassured that so many posters share this feeling. The rage I feel about things sometimes… despair that things can’t just be done properly… and no, the poster who mentioned being bitter about losing looks, it’s not that! If it was it would be a much easier fix!

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Learsfool · 07/12/2024 13:18

Devilsmommy · 07/12/2024 09:53

Yep, I said exactly that to the endocrinologist about the tired/wired thing. It's a complete head fuck of a feeling isn't it😅

I'm desperate to hear more about this. I had postpartum thyroiditis (twice) and exactly the symptoms you all describe. Episodes of completely overwhelming emotion that last for days at a time. Intense exhaustion coupled with a frantic need to move around. My tsh eventually normalised but these symptoms never went away.

Over time I came to discount my strong initial intuition that the mood issues were thyroid related. Firstly because I was told that I didn't have thyroid issues any more and second because whilst hyperthyroid I was told categorically that my mood issues couldn't be caused by hyperthyroidism. And also because I was an older mother (40s) and my symptoms overlapped a bit with perimenopause.

However I've been trying HRT for a few years now and I still feel the same, plus hearing more and more testimony from hyperthyroid women, and reading emerging research, I now know the NHS endo was completely wrong about thyroid and mood. So now I'm revisiting the idea and thinking it could be related, or at least something autoimmune (I do have blood markers of inflammation etc).

I'd be so grateful if any of you could tell me more about your experience, how your symptoms came on, whether they went away with treatment etc. Anything really. It's been years now and I'm basically non functional. X

Disturbia81 · 07/12/2024 13:25

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Farimatafa · 07/12/2024 13:27

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Thats a standard bullying tactic

to call someone else strange and to tell other people to ignore them.

It's textbook.

Farimatafa · 07/12/2024 13:27

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Try to engage with a conversation, instead of insulting people.

I've reported you.

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 07/12/2024 13:28

heady mix of grumpiness and anxiety here... 45.

ilovesooty · 07/12/2024 13:36

Farimatafa · 07/12/2024 11:43

"Crap" "fuck sake".

That's very angry language.

You're definitely fitting the stereotype of what we were saying. That mature women are angry.

Perhaps she's just irritated by the shallow and ageist nature of the post.

Farimatafa · 07/12/2024 13:38

ilovesooty · 07/12/2024 13:36

Perhaps she's just irritated by the shallow and ageist nature of the post.

The thread title is about older women, so we are discussing older women.

Its not ageist to talk about different age groups.

ilovesooty · 07/12/2024 13:44

Farimatafa · 07/12/2024 11:49

Why did you think these women were my friends?

They weren't.

They were just women that I got talking to in a variety of places.

Through Work. Through Groups. One was in a choir that I was in.

They said they felt really awful getting into their forties as their looks weren't the same and they felt insecure.

If you encountered hostility in a range of settings the common factor might have been you. And I'm not at all sure that it will have been the way you looked.

Disturbia81 · 07/12/2024 13:50

@Farimatafa 😂

rewilded · 07/12/2024 13:51

Meditation has make me calm.

ilovesooty · 07/12/2024 13:56

Threewheeler1 · 07/12/2024 12:30

Life's not that simple.
That may have been a solution for you, but it may not be a possibility for others.
Sometimes we end up as part time carers out of necessity because affordable, workable 24 hour alternatives do not exist.
There are numerous reasons as to why a woman may end up as carer for her parents and also her in-laws.

Aside from anything else, have you seen the cost/lack of availability/state of senior care services??

I suspect women like that have very little imagination or the capacity to understand other people's circumstances or barriers.

SnowFrogJelly · 07/12/2024 14:01

Hunkkp · 07/12/2024 07:58

Or is it not that common and I need help?!

I don’t know how to explain it well, but I am basically quite often a mildly angry, frustrated and irritated woman. I can be perfectly pleasant and believe that’s how I come across most of the time as describe me as positive and upbeat and kind…. But inside I’m rarely these things!!!

Honestly, so many things make me angry inside. Bad service, traffic, the weather! I’m a miserable git. I didn’t used to be so pessimistic. Is this just life?

I know exact how you feel! For me it's especially traffic .. driving it town is a nightmare. Pedestrians who think they can cross in front of you when traffic has just started moving after sitting in a queue and then they get annoyed when I don't stop! 😡

SabreIsMyFave · 07/12/2024 14:46

Compash · 07/12/2024 12:42

The idea that old women are jealous of young pretties... 😂 Only if you think a woman's only value is in her looks.

As the old memento mori has it: 'As you are, I once was; as I am now, so you will be.'

Absolutely ludicrous mindset isn't it? I have never been jealous of ANYone. I find it utterly laughable that anyone would suggest I am jealous of younger 'prettier' women. I'm still pretty ta, and very attractive. (Like MANY women my age - mid to late 50s.)

SabreIsMyFave · 07/12/2024 14:48

Fannyfiggs · 07/12/2024 13:06

I didn't mean for it to be nasty, but it's what I took from your posts. You're being controversial and captious on purpose from what I can see, therefore if you do that in real life people will bite back.

Perhaps you have been unlucky in women being nasty to you but to say it was because they were angry their looks were fading is laughable.

Take a step back and read what the women are saying on this thread rather than trying to make your voice the loudest.

Take care.

👏

Motherrr · 07/12/2024 14:53

I'm definitely much less optimistic and upbeat than I used to be in my 20s... (now late 30s) which makes me sad. Guess I'm just tired and stressed a lot of the time?! When you have much more time to dedicate to yourself and hobbies, passions etc, you're happier

sigh maybe it will return after the stresses of raising a family but I think a lot of people are like this!

Motherrr · 07/12/2024 14:54

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 07/12/2024 09:04

Oh op, you are absolutely not alone.
Perimenopause has turned me into a right miserable bitch 🤣
Everything pisses me off, and woe betide any door handle that catches onto my clothing as I walk through, it’ll feel the full force of my wrath 🤣

I can’t take HRT, so my poor DH has got no choice but to ride the rollercoaster with me.

Hahaha agree to the clothes catching in door handle thing- makes me full of irrational rage!!

CocoapuffPuff · 07/12/2024 15:04

Jars and screw top bottles that defy my attempts to open them receive a verbal tirade that would shame a pirate.

Farimatafa · 07/12/2024 15:22

ilovesooty · 07/12/2024 13:44

If you encountered hostility in a range of settings the common factor might have been you. And I'm not at all sure that it will have been the way you looked.

Christ.

You're not even reading what I'm saying!

Go back and read.

I never said that i encountered hostility from women in a load of different settings. Did i.

Try to follow what people are saying. You rushed to insult me without even reading what I said.

I said that Ive met women in lots of different settings, who said to me that they were upset about getting older and losing their looks. They weren't hostile to me. They were talking about themselves.

Farimatafa · 07/12/2024 15:26

ilovesooty · 07/12/2024 13:56

I suspect women like that have very little imagination or the capacity to understand other people's circumstances or barriers.

That's extremely ironic.

Seeing as the person you replied to, assumed that every woman everywherre has children. Because she has children.

And I had to point out to her that lots of women don't have children.

Farimatafa · 07/12/2024 15:27

rewilded · 07/12/2024 13:51

Meditation has make me calm.

Meditation is great!

ilovesooty · 07/12/2024 15:50

Farimatafa · 07/12/2024 15:22

Christ.

You're not even reading what I'm saying!

Go back and read.

I never said that i encountered hostility from women in a load of different settings. Did i.

Try to follow what people are saying. You rushed to insult me without even reading what I said.

I said that Ive met women in lots of different settings, who said to me that they were upset about getting older and losing their looks. They weren't hostile to me. They were talking about themselves.

You mentioned work and social settings where older women were supposedly jealous of your looks. And now you do seem to be getting just a touch angry 🙄