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Needy MIL moving to be near us

324 replies

ShelfoftheElf · 06/12/2024 21:09

MIL is a pleasant enough woman, however she is in my opinion emotionally manipulative and overly reliant on DH. She is (touch wood) a healthy woman in her early sixties but will tell us a lot that she doesn't have long left to live. When challenged she acts oblivious and describes herself as elderly- despite the fact she's active with no diagnosed health issues.
She is widowed but has been for over 20 years.

She has two sons who she treats as pseudo partners. BIL moved to Scotland where SIL is from - the rest of us are in the south east. SIL told me she needed to get BIL away from MIL as their relationship was being damaged by MIL. DH and I live 30 miles from
MIL but out of the blue she has announced she is moving to within walking distance from us. DH doesn't really care and told her to do what she wants. She already has had an offer accepted on a bungalow less than five minutes walk from us. I have told him it will be suffocating and pointed things out like she won't know anyone apart from us, she wants to see us every day (her words), she actively dislikes our area as she says it's too rural so I'm not sure what she's thinking.

DH thinks I'm panicking over nothing. I had a chat with her to address some concerns and told her that I'm concerned she won't like the area, we don't have shops hospitals etc nearby, and that DH has misled her about the amount of time we can spend together and urged her to think things through. She agrees with me face to face then tells DH she is trying to move as quickly as possible. I try to be direct with her in the points I make as she is very thick skinned and either doesn't take a hint or doesn't realise if you're subtle. Even so she will just nod along and smile and then act like the conversation never happened.

I'm worried about her being so close and never being away from us to be honest. As I said DH doesn't really care either way and probably thinks I'm being dramatic and a bit mean. I can't tell someone where to live but I feel like she's moving here with completely unrealistic expectations from us and I want to asset some boundaries without having a falling out.

OP posts:
strawberrysea · 07/12/2024 09:01

Hyperquiet · 06/12/2024 23:11

Nothing wrong with her living near her son as it's his duty to help his Mum out.

However he needs to instil firm boundaries about your personal space and your own home.

It is absolutely not his duty

Edingril · 07/12/2024 09:02

Compash · 07/12/2024 08:58

The other way round, but my BIL moved my sister close to his parents, saying they were 'downsizing'. My sister agreed to this, looking forward to less cleaning and more holidays in her retirement.

She has become her PIL's personal slave... all hospital appointments, dinner several tines a week, any little crisis they can manufacture, guess who's called on... it sure as hell ain't BIL... 😡

Well it is up to her to say no, women can say no, they choose not too

jeaux90 · 07/12/2024 09:04

OP slightly different take here.

It makes it easier if they live near as they get older etc. then you can make sure they actually stay in their own home with support from carers etc rather than your DH being away for hours at a time trying to sort it out. And therefore make sure there is no talk of them moving in with you. (My parents moved near me, and my sister followed and we managed to ensure they were cared for in their own home etc)

Also, you may get some help? Babysitting etc whilst she is still young and healthy?

And actually you might try a reverse tactic or saying great, you can do some school or nursery drop offs, help out with after school care and exhaust her intro retreat. Grin

Dolphinnoises · 07/12/2024 09:04

@Carretera that must have been painful - how far away from them are you now, and why did you choose the house - was it specifically so you would be close to your DS? How do you get on with your DIL?

WinterUnder · 07/12/2024 09:04

@NalafromtheLionKing actually I would tell her so she gets the message that she isn't welcome. Sounds harsh but people like her need to learn that they are overbearing and need to ask rather than assume.

claratheskivvy · 07/12/2024 09:06

She's still relatively young and you could have another 20 years with her. I'm thinking I'd seriously think about moving to Brazil and don't give her your address 😬

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 07/12/2024 09:07

ShelfoftheElf · 06/12/2024 22:38

We have two children (5 and 2) and I work from home. She says she wants to see the children more. She has form for being a bit pushy eg if we go on a perfectly normal day out she will say she's so sad she wasn't there and next time she is definitely coming - well without being invited so we now have a long list of places it feels like we can't go without taking her along as she has made such a fuss about wanting to go to that particular place.

How does she know you are going somewhere? She needs an information diet. Does your DH tell her? He can deal with it then. Be very vague about plans and keep your doors locked. You can't stop her moving closer but you can make it clear that your family's life doesn't revolve around her. If she turns up when your DH is home, he can entertain her. Working from home then definitely lock the door.
I moved closer to my dd, Dsil and grandsons but they were keen for me to do so as I help with childcare. My mum has in-laws who 'popped in' every single day of their life. It drove mum crazy but dad felt an obligation because his parents had informally adopted him as a small child. Most of the arguments between them when I was younger, were about the constant visits.
Is it at all possible that she could be useful for childcare or babysitting but at her house? Then you can control the narrative. Good luck

Spagettifunctional · 07/12/2024 09:09

You sound like a lovely person Carretera
I think it’s for the best to have a bit of distance. My mil used to phone me a lot but I asked dh to take over and phone her daily. I just made that point because it’s his mother. She used to ring me worried that dh would be tired and not get home safe from work which used to hurt as I also work and did most of the housework and collected the dc from the minder etc. So I felt it was up to him to listen to her needs rather than me when it’s him who is her priority.

OnTheBounce · 07/12/2024 09:10

Can you discreetly get your SIL to suggest a brotherly chat about why they felt the need to relocate?

Ragruggers · 07/12/2024 09:10

She is in her early sixties doesn’t she work ? All the people I know who are that age who are fit are working,out all the time enjoying life.Early sixties is not old .Be firm but pleasant.It sounds as if she is not the sort to join groups and make friends but who knows.Good luck but be prepared to move.

WinterUnder · 07/12/2024 09:11

We have a close family but no one assumes that they can impose on anyone. I've never had anyone 'pop by' without a previous arrangement. It's so rude and disrespectful.

Calliopespa · 07/12/2024 09:11

Fizzygoo · 06/12/2024 21:58

I’ve read the OP a couple of times

what am I missing?, she wants to move near you? But she’s pleasant

we moved near our in-laws, When children were small and now we help them now they are in their 80s

other replies have a quick get away stance but what have i missed

I think you’re just decent and recognise the value of family. People like to dilute all ties these days and I don’t think society is healthier for it.

Im not a mil but am dreading my dc growing up if I end up with in-laws like some on these threads. Not sure why houses don’t have red crosses above doors like during the plague: keep away!!

Hoppinggreen · 07/12/2024 09:12

Notdrowningbutmightbe · 06/12/2024 22:17

this is idiotic

Idiotic is commenting on someones post that you don't get due to a total lack of humour

Stormyweatheroutthere · 07/12/2024 09:15

Gather some information about emigrating and leave them lying around...
We had ils over once a week. They would turn up at 8.30 am. They lived 45 mins away.. Left at dc's bedtime.. I stuck to their routine and pretended they weren't in my bloody way......
If they arrived any other day I simply kept to my plans. If they were left home with dh then so be it... Have her over when dh gets home. When he cba with that shit 5 days he will put stop to it....

Daschund · 07/12/2024 09:15

You're right to be worried if she's anything like mine (the pseudo partner sounds very familiar). The way mine speaks you'd think I was the other woman. She reminds DH regularly his DF wanted him to look after her. She tells us her DB visited their parents every day for over thirty years, failing to add that she moved away as soon as she could and never provided any care and rarely visited them.
DH is younger than SILs (who live away) but the in laws made it very clear they had already done their share of grandparenting when DC1 was born. They provided no support, even in the most dire emergent situations involving ICU several times.
I feel no compulsion to help and was so relieved when she wanted to move round the corner from us and couldn't. MIL is a lot bit of a Hyacinth and was shocked to discover our area, that they were always dismissive of, was far more expensive than she thought, thankfully she couldn't afford it. I'd have moved if she'd bought so close.
My parents were amazing and never asked for anything in return. For fifteen years we lived a few hundred metres away. I cannot remember one situation their house being so close being a pain.

cheezncrackers · 07/12/2024 09:15

If anyone has any coping tips I'd be all ears.

Wait until she's settled in and then move to a secret location!

Sausagenbacon · 07/12/2024 09:17

I understand how you feel.
But, as others have said, it's up to you and your oh to set boundaries.
The flip side is that, at her age, she won't be too old to set up social networks for herself, if she's willing (big if, I know)
My mum lives 1 1/2 hours from me and is 94. And needs help now and again. As you get older, that drive, especially in Winter, gets more difficult. In 30 years time you might find her being near by easier than you think.
And, my God, some of these replies! No wonder Society is going the way it is. I hope the posters remember what they said here when they're old.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 07/12/2024 09:18

When she moves in invte her for Sunday lunch in 4 weeks' time, Lu ch at 12 and you are going out at 2.

AlexaSetATimer · 07/12/2024 09:18

Fizzygoo · 06/12/2024 21:58

I’ve read the OP a couple of times

what am I missing?, she wants to move near you? But she’s pleasant

we moved near our in-laws, When children were small and now we help them now they are in their 80s

other replies have a quick get away stance but what have i missed

She treats her sons like surrogate partners and wants to see them every day?

AlexaSetATimer · 07/12/2024 09:20

@Notdrowningbutmightbe duh! Sense of humour failure? It was meant to be funny!!! Not taken literally fgs Confused

Calliopespa · 07/12/2024 09:20

Daschund · 07/12/2024 09:15

You're right to be worried if she's anything like mine (the pseudo partner sounds very familiar). The way mine speaks you'd think I was the other woman. She reminds DH regularly his DF wanted him to look after her. She tells us her DB visited their parents every day for over thirty years, failing to add that she moved away as soon as she could and never provided any care and rarely visited them.
DH is younger than SILs (who live away) but the in laws made it very clear they had already done their share of grandparenting when DC1 was born. They provided no support, even in the most dire emergent situations involving ICU several times.
I feel no compulsion to help and was so relieved when she wanted to move round the corner from us and couldn't. MIL is a lot bit of a Hyacinth and was shocked to discover our area, that they were always dismissive of, was far more expensive than she thought, thankfully she couldn't afford it. I'd have moved if she'd bought so close.
My parents were amazing and never asked for anything in return. For fifteen years we lived a few hundred metres away. I cannot remember one situation their house being so close being a pain.

Do you honestly think it’s so off that his DF wanted him to look after mil though?

I mean if I were dying I’d hope my Dc would look out for elderly DH.

AlexaSetATimer · 07/12/2024 09:20

stichguru · 06/12/2024 22:18

Set some boundaries, make it clear that she can't half live with you. But also this could be good. Being able to pop in and check on her for 20 mins if you are worried, or drop her off some shopping or a meal if she isn't feeling good and then go home knowing you aren't far away if she does fall or get more poorly, sounds lots better than DH having to hike over to see her and not know whether to stay in case she gets worse...

She's early 60's with no health conditions?! You're talking like she's in her 90s!

AlexaSetATimer · 07/12/2024 09:22

SundayDread · 06/12/2024 22:29

What’s your life like. Have you got children/work from home?
Are you able to not answer if she comes round? I would leave her with DH every time she comes round, if she monopolises his time his opinions will change.

I agree. DH needs to deal with her most. Step away. Def no key. Ring doorbell is a great idea.

Newname85 · 07/12/2024 09:23

Wow!! Your post and those replies!

She is your DHs mother! The woman who raised him - probably on her own. Now that you are in his life, you want him to abandon her ? Why should she know other people in your area ? Her son lives there.

Please tell me you work!!

Ohhelpicantthinkofaname · 07/12/2024 09:24

Have you considered moving?