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AIBU?

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To be absolutely furious with my father?

486 replies

PortaSix · 06/12/2024 13:51

My father and is wife are both in their 50’s and are having another baby. None of my business, it’s not what I would want to do but it’s up to them.

We were at a family gathering and the subject of death came up and what would happen with our children. My dad then announced “oh I just assumed Porta would take them in”

Like, wtf?! Did he not think this was a conversation to have BEFORE having babies in old age? They have a 10 year old, a 3 year old and now another one on the way.

I’ve had my babies. I had mine in my early 20’s so that my 40 my kids will be grown. I do not want to take on any ther children. I am so mad that he just thought I would take on his children like this without any sort of discussion. Aibu?

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PortaSix · 06/12/2024 15:42

PortaSix · 06/12/2024 15:38

Yes my brother and sister in law will look after our children. They were asked properly and it’s all in our wills.

Brother in law and sister in law

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Berlinlover · 06/12/2024 15:43

ObtuseMoose · 06/12/2024 14:56

I'm childfree by choice and wouldn't take on anyone else's children. No thank you.

So you’d be happy to see your own siblings go into care? Wow.

OAPapparently · 06/12/2024 15:46

When you think of it though even young parents are in this position - both of them could die young and who would have their kids? - grandparents? Siblings? Who would you have wanted to take care of your children OP if you (and your children’s father) had died in your 20s/30s?
Thankfully most people don’t have to worry about that.
You don’t have to take on the care of anyone children if you don’t want to, hopefully you never will be in that position. It’s not like your Dad is in his 80s.

Berlinlover · 06/12/2024 15:46

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Very strong family history of cancer.

Gorgonemilezola · 06/12/2024 15:49

Berlinlover · 06/12/2024 15:43

So you’d be happy to see your own siblings go into care? Wow.

The poster you have quoted has come to a decision about their child free status. If their parent made a stupid decision to have a child while in their 50s, why should the pp's life be turned upside down with no discussion by the stupid decisions of stupid people?

Save your ire for the numpties procreating at an age when they shouldn't be.

lemonyfox · 06/12/2024 15:49

Snoopdoggydog123 · 06/12/2024 13:59

I'd be the bluntest/ cruelest you could be to ensure there is no grey area.

Dad and Step mum. Your children will go into care before they come to me. My child rearing days are over. For good.
I am not even a consideration in any capacity.

Jesus Christ that's mean, they are family

wastingtimeonhere · 06/12/2024 15:52

Agree a conversation should have been had.
We asked DM, should anything happen to us prematurely, and she said she wouldn't take them but would arrange with social services for care. Thankfully, we are both still here now they are grown up.

OAPapparently · 06/12/2024 15:53

PortaSix · 06/12/2024 15:38

Yes my brother and sister in law will look after our children. They were asked properly and it’s all in our wills.

They might change their mind if it came to the reality of it though!
Just because it’s in your will it doesn’t mean they have to take them.
Did you decide this with them before you became pregnant?

adriftinadenofvipers · 06/12/2024 15:53

Berlinlover · 06/12/2024 15:43

So you’d be happy to see your own siblings go into care? Wow.

That's easy to say when you're not in that situation.

I wouldn't want to take in anyone else's children either. I've reared mine and I didn't have them young (though not nearly as old as in this case!!)

They should have bloody thought this through before going full steam ahead!

Personally I think they are mad!

ObtuseMoose · 06/12/2024 15:55

Berlinlover · 06/12/2024 15:43

So you’d be happy to see your own siblings go into care? Wow.

Being childfree by choice means I don't want children regardless of where they come from. I'm in my 50s, no way would I want to be lumbered with children at my age. You can wow all you like, I would not be taking on anyone else's children.

WearyAuldWumman · 06/12/2024 15:56

adriftinadenofvipers · 06/12/2024 15:53

That's easy to say when you're not in that situation.

I wouldn't want to take in anyone else's children either. I've reared mine and I didn't have them young (though not nearly as old as in this case!!)

They should have bloody thought this through before going full steam ahead!

Personally I think they are mad!

It's not just that the older couple is expecting too much - it's the fact that they've actually gone out of their way to create another child who would not be here in the ordinary course of events.

I'm hoping that they'll stop now, but who knows?

adriftinadenofvipers · 06/12/2024 15:56

Katemax82 · 06/12/2024 13:54

This is ridiculous..he needs a proper legal agreement over who will care for his kids if he dies young and you can of course say no so he can find someone else. Is his wife in her 50s? My husband is 53 and I'm 42 we are having a baby, but I have no intention of dying young and leaving my kids to his grown up son to look after!

Nobody has any intention of dying young and leaving their kids. It happens though.

Anotherparkingthread · 06/12/2024 15:58

It's putting the cart before the horse a bit isn't it. I mean there's two of them and neither of them are dead yet lol. It's all hypothetical.

Beeloux · 06/12/2024 16:01

Has DF/SM helped you considerably with childcare for your DC? If so, can see why they may have presumed it but it’s still incredibly rude of them to blurt it out and not ask before!

Personally I find it selfish intentionally trying to get pregnant in your fifties but each to their own.

jeaux90 · 06/12/2024 16:01

Not the point but I'm 53 with a 15 year old and that's exhausting enough. 50's with a baby, no thank you!

And YANBU

PortaSix · 06/12/2024 16:01

OAPapparently · 06/12/2024 15:53

They might change their mind if it came to the reality of it though!
Just because it’s in your will it doesn’t mean they have to take them.
Did you decide this with them before you became pregnant?

What’s your point? Literally anyone could do this. The point is we sat down and asked them and it gave us the opportunity to ask someone else if they said no. We didn’t make any assumptions. Despite only being 20 at the time, I was responsible and thought ahead.

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PortaSix · 06/12/2024 16:02

Beeloux · 06/12/2024 16:01

Has DF/SM helped you considerably with childcare for your DC? If so, can see why they may have presumed it but it’s still incredibly rude of them to blurt it out and not ask before!

Personally I find it selfish intentionally trying to get pregnant in your fifties but each to their own.

Edited

No they live 300 miles away. I seen them maybe twice a year

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Beeloux · 06/12/2024 16:03

PortaSix · 06/12/2024 16:02

No they live 300 miles away. I seen them maybe twice a year

Very cheeky then! Like you I had my dc early/mid twenties and would not want to be raising children in my late forties!

adriftinadenofvipers · 06/12/2024 16:05

mrsm43s · 06/12/2024 14:40

Leaving aside what I might think of two people in their 50s having a baby, the reality is that it's unlikely that they will both die in the next 18 years, so the whole thing is a moot point really. They could be as young as late 60s in 18 years. It's unlikely that they'd both die prematurely. I've known people die in their 20s/30s and 40s leaving young children behind - there's no guarantees in life.

So, on the balance of probabilities, they'll be able to look after their children until adulthood.

If they survive another 8 years, the eldest child will be 18, and could theoretically at least (though a horrible idea in reality) care for the younger siblings?

PyongyangKipperbang · 06/12/2024 16:05

lemonyfox · 06/12/2024 15:49

Jesus Christ that's mean, they are family

Yes but having children later than nature allows knowing the increased risks of not being around as they grow, is not something that should be done without discussion with all those affected.

@PortaSix would be directly affected if they are expecting her to take on the care of the kids. They should have had this conversation BEFORE the IVF and made the decision whether to have another based on the fact that she has no intention of taking them on.

Someone being family doesnt mean that they trump everything else ffs!! Why should she have to extend her childrearing years, against her will, just because they are family?!

thepariscrimefiles · 06/12/2024 16:06

PortaSix · 06/12/2024 16:02

No they live 300 miles away. I seen them maybe twice a year

What was he like as a dad when you were young? Was he very hands on?

CloudPop · 06/12/2024 16:09

Crikeyalmighty · 06/12/2024 15:09

I'm going to sound horrible I'm sure but I really don't think you should be able to have IVF in your 50s

Me neither

PortaSix · 06/12/2024 16:09

thepariscrimefiles · 06/12/2024 16:06

What was he like as a dad when you were young? Was he very hands on?

Nope! Don’t get me wrong, he’s a great dad to his kids but he was pretty crappy with me. But I don’t care anymore really, I have my own family now.

The other things that pisses me off is it’s not just about death at that age. A good friend of mine dropped out of uni and gave up on her dream career because he older parents needed care. Her dad had Alzheimer’s and her mum wasn’t well enough to look after him properly. I just feel like they haven’t thought this through at all.

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Ilovelifeverymuch · 06/12/2024 16:12

Berlinlover · 06/12/2024 13:59

What if you died first and nobody wanted your children? How would you feel about that? These children are your siblings.

Very different situation, they shouldn't be popping out children in their 50's and expecting his daughter to look after them when they go.

WearyAuldWumman · 06/12/2024 16:12

PortaSix · 06/12/2024 16:09

Nope! Don’t get me wrong, he’s a great dad to his kids but he was pretty crappy with me. But I don’t care anymore really, I have my own family now.

The other things that pisses me off is it’s not just about death at that age. A good friend of mine dropped out of uni and gave up on her dream career because he older parents needed care. Her dad had Alzheimer’s and her mum wasn’t well enough to look after him properly. I just feel like they haven’t thought this through at all.

They haven't thought this through at all. It's the IVF that astonishes me.