I'm a celebrity

[Mearabade]

I've watched a bit of it over the years.

I was watching a couple of this year's episodes, and I just thought that the trials have gotten so much worse.

Yesterday they had Oti mabuse, one of the contestants, stand in a sarcophagus. They poured sand into it, up to her neck, so her whole body was covered in sand, and she couldn't move at all.

She had a tiny head space for air. Then they filled that head space with giant cockraches, ants and large worms.

I was watching it and thinking,

"When did watching people being completely tortured on TV become acceptable."

Is it not going too far?

Still watched it though haven't you, doesn't matter where, does it

On the children point, it is on after the watershed at 9pm which means children should only be watching with parental consent. So no unless a parent is useless children shouldn't be watching it.

@Mearabade

I think you're talking nonsense. The show has been running for something like 20 years now and without exception the "celebs" know what they're signing up for and get a huge fee to boot.

As others have said you can in no way compare it to torture.

I never said I didn't watch clips. I said that I did.

What's your point?

So what's your thoughts on the Asian tv reality shoes that are more extreme torture.

People on this thread have said that they're very very bad.

TBH I have never watched these other shows, but people know what they are signing up for and if they are stupid enough to do them, then more fool them.

This! ^

'Jugador?' That's Spanish though, not English. We could go on all day bringing up words from another language!

Also, 'gotten' is a word yes, but it's not an English one, it's American.

I'm not bothered if people use it, I probably use Americanisms myself some days, but let's not pretend it's English, because it's not.

Only in the USA

In British English, the past participle of the verb get is got. In American English, people say gotten.

It’s an older form of English that has persisted in America.

What some English people don’t seem to realise is that it has also persisted in parts of England, as well as in Scotland and in Ireland. It didn’t die out on this side of the Atlantic. Depending on where you live you’ll be familiar with it or not in everyday speech.

If you look up the history of the word,

Gotten was used in the UK, actually.

It just went out of popularity a bit.

The past participle of Got also used to be gotten in the UK.

It just faded out of popularity a bit, and some people now use the shorter, "got".

Look up the history of the word.

That's not true.

I've already said it has been in common use in certain areas of the UK all my living memory, and I'm over a half century old. It's in the king James bible. It's used by Shakespeare. Just because it has fallen out of use in some areas doesn't make it not an English word used in the UK.

Good job on missing my point entirely!!

And yes, gotten is English. Some people seem to think it's American English, but it never died out in some areas of the UK.

Was Shakespeare pretending when he used it?

Shakespeare’s been dead for 400 years. It’s not in contemporary use in the vast majority of the UK.

I’m in ROI and It’s widely used here and not a new thing.

Regarding the UK, as far as I know it’s used in NI, parts of Scotland and parts of Northern England.

It’s a useful word to have. It’s not used in quite the same way as ‘got’ is and it’s useful to be able to make that distinction in speech.

Not in any part of northern England I know and not by my bloke’s extensive family in N Ireland. I’ve literally never heard it spoken by a British person except in the context of “ill gotten gains”.

Do you know everyone in the UK then?

May I ask why you’ve tuned in over the years?

if you’ve been thoroughly disgusted and not entertained in the slightest, have you done anything productive about it? Ofcom? Contacted ITV? Etc.

(Apologies if this reads as rude, genuinely asking) x

#teamgotten

:)

These threads come up regularly and people from Scotland, NI and N England always come on to say things like their granny has always used it. You could do a search if you want. You’ll find British people saying it hasn’t died out in their region, I know you will.

Look, love, I’ve been on this planet for 71 years and lived in a variety of places in the UK - do you not think I might have heard it at least once if it was still in contemporary use?

the whole "they signed up for it and have given consent" thing completely flew over your head didn't it? 🥱 go be batshit somewhere else x

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/pedantscorner/4002174-Gotten-Why

It’s discussed here for example @Blossomtoes. A number of Scottish posters say they use it regularly.

I think that "gotten" is a great, descriptive word.

It sounds good. It's better than the simple "got".
In my opinion.