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To be so upset I’m missing my child’s nativity?

318 replies

charmonachain · 01/12/2024 15:38

Teacher myself … I really wish I’d just called in sick to be honest which I’ll probably be flamed for but I am a tad gutted. Saying so here so I don’t spend tomorrow swearing.

OP posts:
Cromwell1905 · 02/12/2024 07:23

User79853257976 · 01/12/2024 23:20

Probably okay for an hour for a nativity.

Probably if it was an hour but it isn’t is it ? Would have taken me and hour an half to get to the school and it finishes at say 3pm it’s half a day

Cromwell1905 · 02/12/2024 07:28

User79853257976 · 01/12/2024 18:37

Call in sick citing stress and go. You can’t miss it. Teacher here.

Goodness me, it is very worrying that people with this attitude are teaching our children, and truly disgraceful on people who truly suffer with stress !

Cromwell1905 · 02/12/2024 07:35

User79853257976 · 01/12/2024 19:43

They can book holiday.

They can request holiday, very different !

Cromwell1905 · 02/12/2024 07:38

Allswellthatendswelll · 01/12/2024 20:31

Yeah I've done quite a few nativities and I struggle to think of many or any children who haven't had a parent there. This is in London and the home counties, deprieved and affluent areas.

The OP has said her husband can attend, it’s not that there is no parent there.

Bunnycat101 · 02/12/2024 07:59

The nativity is bit so of course the OP is upset- i think some posters have been unkind. Yes teachers get holidays but I’d want my own children’s teachers to be able to get doctors appointments or see their child’s nativity if at all possible.

@charmonachain unfortunately the working parent guilt only increases. There will be concerts, trips with irregular pick/up times, random sport matches. There are lots of things I’ve had to say no to because I don’t have the leave but sports day and nativity have always been possible with annual leave.

Westofeasttoday · 02/12/2024 08:01

VickyEadieofThigh · 01/12/2024 15:44

And then make an appearance at another school, in front of a shedload of witnesses? Go straight to suspension and possible dismissal for unprofessional conduct.

Exactly this. Never ever ever lie about these things as it will only catch you out in the end. There is no way you go to another school at a nativity and no one knows you, your head, someone else at the school etc.

Next time I would just say I have an appointment and leave it at that.

coffeesaveslives · 02/12/2024 08:05

I grew up with parents never being able to attend these things - I understand it's upsetting but honestly, it's fine. Your child's dad will be there and they won't remember that you weren't.

familyissues12345 · 02/12/2024 08:26

DS2 turned up the night before DS1 was Joseph in his reception nativity. I've never forgiven DS2 - "Joseph" is now 21 SadGrin

Anyway, back to the question - it sucks op!! I no longer do term time only work, but it was so hard missing out when I did. Fortunately I worked somewhere where they'd try to make it work, but it didn't always Flowers

Purpleturtle46 · 02/12/2024 08:38

I am a teacher and been to all my 3 kids nativities and Christmas shows over the years. My HT has always let me have the time off. It's not like it's the whole day, only a couple of hours.

This is exactly the kind of thing that makes teaching a non-flexible career and why so many woman leave after having children.

Grammarnut · 02/12/2024 08:38

Gemma273 · 01/12/2024 19:35

a273 · Today 19:32

To give the teachers more work and extra hours to add on to their already long day. I'm not a teacher but have the greatest respect for them and think they do more than enough without any thanks. Also speaking from experience, my child is 5, just started school and I couldn't think of anything worse than dragging her out after dinner to go to something like this, she wants her bed.

How times change. My DC were at school in the 80s and 90s. The Nativity play - a very important event in an RC school - performed by Year 1, took place c. 6.30 p.m. Children were brought by their parents (every child had a part) who maybe had provided a costume. The Nativity was followed by the Juniors' play, something like 'The Twelve Days of Christmas' (this song has RC connections around the sacrament), which involved music and dancing. Almost every parent was able to attend. We didn't put 5-year-olds to bed before about 7.30 in those far off days - mine had 'tea' after school and dinner later (7-ish) most days.
The teachers were not so burdened with paperwork, of course.

DragonGypsyDoris · 02/12/2024 08:59

You sound surprised. Hunbelievable. And as for pulling a sickie? Gross misconduct. It's only a nativity play full of screaming babies and other parents jockeying for the best position. I'd happily stay at work.

Sharptonguedwoman · 02/12/2024 09:05

charmonachain · 01/12/2024 15:38

Teacher myself … I really wish I’d just called in sick to be honest which I’ll probably be flamed for but I am a tad gutted. Saying so here so I don’t spend tomorrow swearing.

Been there, can dad or grandparents or auntie go?

User79853257976 · 02/12/2024 17:07

Cromwell1905 · 02/12/2024 07:23

Probably if it was an hour but it isn’t is it ? Would have taken me and hour an half to get to the school and it finishes at say 3pm it’s half a day

Every situation is different. My DH works an hour away and could make it easier on himself if he worked locally.

User79853257976 · 02/12/2024 17:08

Cromwell1905 · 02/12/2024 07:28

Goodness me, it is very worrying that people with this attitude are teaching our children, and truly disgraceful on people who truly suffer with stress !

But it is causing stress.

Tia86 · 02/12/2024 17:13

HMW1906 · 01/12/2024 19:16

My friend is a teacher, her school had already told them all that they wouldn’t be allowing any time off in the run up to Christmas. She’s phoning in sick so she can go to her daughter’s first nativity. So instead of loosing her for a few hours they’re loosing her for the full day instead 🤷‍♀️. She’s not really bothered if she gets caught/in trouble as she’s actively looking to get out of there in the summer anyway (they’re also so short staffed that’s it’s unlikely they would sack her for it). Her husband is a teacher in a different school and has been allowed a few hours off to be able to go to it.

If her school finds out then this would be disciplinary behaviour.
As disappointing as it is, as a teacher (or any professional I assume) you cannot lie about absence.

I am sorry the OP is in a school that is unwilling to support staff watching their own children as I am sure they would expect parental support at their own school.
Hope someone from the family managed to attend and the show went well.

Mysterian · 02/12/2024 17:26

To save you the trip:

Some woman get's told she's having a baby, gets to a hotel but they overbooked the rooms so she pops it out in a stable. Lot's of visitors including shepherds, wise men, camels, some times penguins, and angels. Big star, everybody happy despite baby getting pretty weird presents.

charmonachain · 02/12/2024 17:37

Cromwell1905 · 02/12/2024 07:23

Probably if it was an hour but it isn’t is it ? Would have taken me and hour an half to get to the school and it finishes at say 3pm it’s half a day

So because you work an hour and a half away you think everyone does? The nursery is five minutes away, that’s one of the reasons I chose it!

Anyway, I found out others have been granted permission to go to their child’s performance so I’m pushing it a bit now. I shall update you with an outcome.

OP posts:
Iamgettingolderandgrumpier · 02/12/2024 18:20

Reading through this and find it so sad. I have worked in primary schools for many years. People saying it’s only a nativity, really don’t get it. These are the things you remember and, more importantly, children (particularly younger children) get very upset if their parents don’t turn up. It is heartbreaking watching a child looking to see if there is someone to watch them. I never missed my children’s nativities/plays as my head/colleagues were always happy to cover for me (as I was gor them). As a head, I have always made sure that my staff never missed out. Teachers put so much into these events, awful if some can’t attend their own children’s.

Littletreefrog · 02/12/2024 18:33

Iamgettingolderandgrumpier · 02/12/2024 18:20

Reading through this and find it so sad. I have worked in primary schools for many years. People saying it’s only a nativity, really don’t get it. These are the things you remember and, more importantly, children (particularly younger children) get very upset if their parents don’t turn up. It is heartbreaking watching a child looking to see if there is someone to watch them. I never missed my children’s nativities/plays as my head/colleagues were always happy to cover for me (as I was gor them). As a head, I have always made sure that my staff never missed out. Teachers put so much into these events, awful if some can’t attend their own children’s.

Genuine question: If it's that devastating for both children and parents to miss Nativities why do schools continue to put them on when obviously not all parents can attend? Why not have the children perform to the rest of the school etc so that no child is traumatised by the lack of parents watching.

CandyCane457 · 02/12/2024 19:23

Littletreefrog · 02/12/2024 18:33

Genuine question: If it's that devastating for both children and parents to miss Nativities why do schools continue to put them on when obviously not all parents can attend? Why not have the children perform to the rest of the school etc so that no child is traumatised by the lack of parents watching.

From my experience, they ALWAYS perform to the school as well. Usually a dress rehearsal for the other year groups. I think the above poster just meant it’s sad to see the child looking specifically for their parent. But there is always an audience of children!

CandyCane457 · 02/12/2024 19:28

And as for timings you just can’t please everyone.
Do it during the day, and some working parents can’t come. Do it after school, but then we’re still talking 3.30-4.30/5 sort of block where still, a lot of working parents can’t come.
Do it later at night (say, send the kids home as normal around 3.15 but then come back to perform around 6pm) and you’ll get parents complain that they don’t want to have to come back to school, and it’s too much for the little kids after a long day.

Littletreefrog · 02/12/2024 19:30

CandyCane457 · 02/12/2024 19:23

From my experience, they ALWAYS perform to the school as well. Usually a dress rehearsal for the other year groups. I think the above poster just meant it’s sad to see the child looking specifically for their parent. But there is always an audience of children!

But my question is why do they invite parents if parents non attendance causes children such distress? and they must be aware that there will likely always be a few parents who can't attend.

Littletreefrog · 02/12/2024 19:32

CandyCane457 · 02/12/2024 19:28

And as for timings you just can’t please everyone.
Do it during the day, and some working parents can’t come. Do it after school, but then we’re still talking 3.30-4.30/5 sort of block where still, a lot of working parents can’t come.
Do it later at night (say, send the kids home as normal around 3.15 but then come back to perform around 6pm) and you’ll get parents complain that they don’t want to have to come back to school, and it’s too much for the little kids after a long day.

So don't perform it for parents then. Seems to be this would solve a lot of problems.

TickingAlongNicely · 02/12/2024 19:34

Littletreefrog · 02/12/2024 19:32

So don't perform it for parents then. Seems to be this would solve a lot of problems.

Theres another thread running currently complaining a school doesn't have a Christmas at for every year group....

Community engagement

CandyCane457 · 02/12/2024 19:41

Littletreefrog · 02/12/2024 19:32

So don't perform it for parents then. Seems to be this would solve a lot of problems.

And it would also create a lot of problems, parents would go wild in our school if they weren’t able to watch the nativity. And why should those who are available, have to miss out because others aren’t? When it comes to things like this, schools just can’t please everyone and there will always be someone to find something to complain about!