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Being sensitive when friends don't reply to messages (having seen them)

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Anuta77 · 24/11/2024 20:25

Just to be clear I know that everyone is busy and are not obliged to immediately reply to my messages. I totally get not feeling like replying at the moment and even forgetting. It happens to me. But even if I forget, I end up remembering the unanswered message and reply something saying sorry, got busy, .... I also think that if one forgets the message, if they somehow think of you one day, they would open the messaging app and would see that they never answered something.

If I have nothing else to contribute to the conversation or someone sends some info that doesn't require a full answer, I at least acknoledge with some thumbs up or a heart or whatever.

By the way, I am very busy myself by the way, with kids, work, renovations, etc. I just think it's the polite thing to do.

So when friends just see my message and then never reply, it bugs me, especially when it happens several times. I obviously don't throw a tantrum or say anything, but it turns me off and makes me less motivated to start a conversation again. The worse is that it happens even with my close friend who's strong on manners.

I even changed hairdressers after I sent one hairdresser some info we discussed during the haircut and told her how my husband loved my hair. She ignored my message (she's very active on facebook and I could see that the message was seen), I found another hairdresser.

AIBU? How others react to their messages being ignored?

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Mary46 · 25/11/2024 15:51

Poodleville people are awful flaky now. Finding it alot with people

Lallydallydune · 25/11/2024 16:02

You're way too sensitive OP. It's not about you.

Do you ever think maybe the hairdresser read your message, meant to reply, then something happened that was more important, and she forgot to reply.

HappiestSleeping · 25/11/2024 16:38

Maggiethecat · 25/11/2024 15:08

that was for @HappiestSleeping

I didn't say that they don't deserve any response, just that they are non urgent and can be replied to as and when. The sender passes the responsibility of deciding the priority to the recipient.

Disturbia81 · 25/11/2024 17:46

So... I'm someone who usually will reply at a decent time and messages that don't require a reply I will put an emoji reaction to.

But there are some people who will constantly keep replying even when I've just put an emoji reaction, they see it as a thing to reply to! So I have to just go quiet to end that particular chat. I sometimes wonder if these people just want to be messaging all day. No thankyou

Anuta77 · 25/11/2024 17:56

Piglet89 · 25/11/2024 06:07

My new hairdresser just acknowledged my acknoledgement of her reminder of our appointment tomorrow.

Stuck in a mad acknowledgement loop.

OP do you SRSLY have kids and job and renovations on? I have a job and a kid and a huge whole home renovation to manage and I have absolutely no bandwidth for anything else. Trivia like this wouldn't even register.

No, I lied about having kids and work and renovation LOL. I mean, seriously?
You have no bandwith to reply to friends, but you have bandwidth to reply to strangers on a forum, so that just shows what you find important.

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Anuta77 · 25/11/2024 17:59

Chocolatestrawberry123 · 25/11/2024 06:36

Of course there's been 'spitting of dummies', the OP is willing to change hairdressers (to one that she doesn't even know will do her hair as good as her recent hairdresser), all because of a non reply to a text!
That's bizarre, and she's probably cutting her nose to spite her face.

What's bizarre are the assumptions here.
I wasn't married to the old hairdresser. The new hairdresser was recommended by several people as amazing.

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Anuta77 · 25/11/2024 18:01

Chocolatestrawberry123 · 25/11/2024 06:59

Just when I thought your responses couldn't get any more unbelievable OP, now you're saying 'anyone could do that'

Erm, no they couldn't! If they could then there'd be no need for hairdressers would there? As everyone would just get family or friends or anyone for that matter to cut their hair! Even long hair should be sectioned properly to get an even cut, it's not just a matter of snipping a straight line across the bottom!

I also think you sound completely over the top, and I imagine your hairdresser will actually be glad she's no longer going to have to deal with you (that's if she even ever notices you've taken your custom elsewhere), as she probably got the vibe you were trying to be over familiar with her by sending her info when your appointment was over.
The hairdresser KNOWS whether or not she's done a good job, and as long as you're happy with the results in the salon she doesn't need 'validation' of her cutting skills by your husband.

And as for the new hairdresser sending hearts, you shouldn't read anything into that, as after all, she wants your money.

I find your response unbelievable. Writing a long text explaining how non professionals couldn't cut hair. I meant ANY HAIRDRESSER LOL.
You don't know what familiarity I had with her, you don't know what she noticed. All you want is to judge a stranger on a forum. 😂

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Anuta77 · 25/11/2024 18:04

GRex · 25/11/2024 07:13

It's you who is struggling from taking offence OP, not those who you are angry with. We live in a busy communication age, where most people have a lot of chatter going on. If you find it easier not to talk with anyone who's busy then that's fine, but it doesn't make sense to make up motives that may not exist, when the more likely explanation for no reply will be busy and forgot to reply, or entirely missed the message. Blue ticks are meaningless. Sometimes a message gets only half read if it arrives alongside other chatter, and sometimes people simply don't have time to reply immediately and then forget they didn't send anything.

In any given week, I will have around 20-30 whatsapp threads, 5-10 text chats, 50-200 email threads, 20-50 slack threads, 20-50 MS Teams chat threads, plus work meetings and meet-ups with friends or DS friends. This week I'm likely to prioritise my friend who has cancer treatment underway, my colleague with major client issues, 2 family birthdays, chasing hospital appointments and sorting out christmas / new year meet-ups. When there's time for a natter, great; but when there isn't I will not prioritise the one sensitive soul talking about their new hairdo above everyone else, and wouldn't apologise for forgetting to send a thumbs up about it. If someone like OP wants to take the hump, then they are only upsetting themselves, but fine.

Then you're confirming what I'm thinking, no point in sending messages or acknoledging messages since nobody cares.
About my sensitive soul, nobody knows about it other than my husband and the strangers here, so no need to be rude, busy lady.
It's funny though that you do have time to reply to strangers on the forum despite having an overload of messages.

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Anuta77 · 25/11/2024 18:07

ChristmasGrinch24 · 25/11/2024 07:16

You sound incredibly needy. I couldn't be friends with someone like that. You don't get to stamp your feet and demand someone else's time.

I couldn't be friends with someone like you either, someone who judges people she doesn't know and who doesn't know the difference between between sharing a QUESTION on a forum and throwing a tantrum to friends for not replying (something I don't do). Seriously? What you I care about who you want to be friends with?

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IDontHateRainbows · 25/11/2024 18:08

I'm another who thinks it's rude. But I was ostracized at school so it probably triggers abandonment issues or something. It is basically being ignored, but it seems that this is the 'modern way'. I'll probably get told I'm a sensitive snowflake but I can't help how I feel. And what are you supposed to do.. double text? Leave it hanging?

Anuta77 · 25/11/2024 18:11

suggestionsplease1 · 25/11/2024 07:32

You see I look at this the other way round, for the sake of their relationships the non-repliers should maybe consider what they're doing.

When you don't reply to a friend you're basically saying to them 'You are not worth a few seconds of my time'. And then why would anyone want to stay friends with someone who clearly doesn't value them? I would stop investing my time in that direction, it's not balanced, I would rather focus on other more rewarding friendships.

Now this is all within reason of course, you get some people apparently expecting of texts every five minutes which is wearying, and life is busy of course, or major shit happens and people don't have the headspace, or you develop a texting style where every other week/ month is quite appropriate for your friendship and how it has developed. But you weigh up these things in the larger overall picture of the friendship and what you and they are getting from it, and sometimes yeah you should just acknowledge that it's best focusing on other friendships instead.

Right exactly. I only gave a few apparently bad examples, but it's the overall picture of people not replying even to questions. And by not replying, I mean not replying at all. And even if they forget, if they remember me (it's a friend so I would imagine that they do from time to time), they would open their messaging medium and see that there was a message from me.
I scaled down on messaging, but the thing is that people are so used to it, that they almost don't call LOL.

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Anuta77 · 25/11/2024 18:16

Octavia64 · 25/11/2024 07:51

I'm old and ill and not familiar with modern manners.

I very frequently don't reply to messages because I'm busy being ill.

I'd never heard of offending people by leaving them on "read" until I heard about it on here.

But then I mostly message other old gimmers who probably haven't heard that it's rude either because we all do it all of the time.

For all it's worth, I don't expect replies from older people (except for my mom, but she's into tech). And of course, it's not reasonable to feel hurt when you know that the person is ill. I hope you feel better.

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Maggiethecat · 25/11/2024 18:19

HappiestSleeping · 25/11/2024 16:38

I didn't say that they don't deserve any response, just that they are non urgent and can be replied to as and when. The sender passes the responsibility of deciding the priority to the recipient.

🤔 - non urgent and can be replied to as and when regardless of the content?!

I think you’ll understand why PPs took a dim view of delayed responses to news that they were very ill.

Anuta77 · 25/11/2024 18:20

AlpacaMittens · 25/11/2024 07:52

"I still try to acknowledge the message just to be nice"

You do you, but I just cannot be arsed texting pointlessly "just to be nice". My friends can either be insulted by this, or hopefully they know me enough to know it's not malicious. I won't go out of my way to send pointless heart reactions and the like "just to be nice" or for fear of a friendship being ruined - if a heart reaction breaks a friendship, it was never really a great friendship was it.

But can you can be arsed answering me, whom you don't know and more than once.
I never even said that friendships are broken because someone didn't put a heart, my title even says feeling sensitive, not fighting with friends over texts.
And by the way, not everyone thinks I'm needy, several people think like me. What part of the body do you even use to read and process information?

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Anuta77 · 25/11/2024 18:24

pamplemoussee · 25/11/2024 07:54

One of my friends has dyslexia and she really struggles with WhatsApp / messages. How do you know that's not the case for your ex hairdresser?

My other friend has ADHD and he's so easily distracted, he is known for forgetting to reply to messages and various other things too. He's a lot better with phone calls. He does try but sometimes you don't know the full story OP, there could be other things going on sometimes that you're unaware of. I appreciate this isn't always the case but why waste energy getting frustrated with messages if you've got on well face to face?

It's funny you mention ADHD, because I have it too. Right now I'm supposed to be working and I'm on a forum just to change while reading an article and shopping for Black friday. Precisely with ADHD you can do it all.
My sister has dyslexia and while her answers sound like a telegram, she's very able to reply when she's interested or contact me.
But yes, I realize that people are different. I guess it's similar to when people are in a relationship and have different needs and even if you understand that the other doesn't have the same needs, you still feel sensitive about it.

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Lemonyfuckit · 25/11/2024 18:24

I sincerely don't care, I don't have time to be texting all the time (and honestly can't be bothered). I have one particular friend who I sometimes briefly worry whether they get annoyed as I will go days / weeks not replying to her watsapps but that's because it's just an endless waffly conversation about literally nothing in particular. If it was messages that require a response like to arrange a meet up then I do reply (not instantly but pretty promptly - when I can), but otherwise if I don't leave some messages unanswered I would literally get nothing done as as soon as I reply she sends me another stream of messages - this is literal just chit chat about absolutely nothing and quite frankly I don't have time or any interest in continuing an endless text conversation about nothing. I would rather use it to get to the point and arrange a meet up, and we can catch up properly then.

Maggiethecat · 25/11/2024 18:25

I agree with PP who said that people CBA to reply to friends but have lots of time for SM.

My adult Dc often have to be chased for responses to messages some of which are time sensitive or otherwise important but yet are tethered to their phones on Tik Tok and other SM.

It comes down to priorities in the end.

Anuta77 · 25/11/2024 18:32

2024cando1 · 25/11/2024 09:04

I largely agree with this. I am always stunned when people say it’s not rude to ignore messages. Your reception here OP has been bonkers.

I had a bereavement earlier this year and a couple of people messaged to see how I was doing a few weeks later. I replied to both saying I was finding it difficult but coping etc. Both read my message and didn’t reply (one for a week and one until the next birthday so months)! That made me feel worse than if they hadn’t asked in the first place.

YANBU OP, it’s stunning how people lack common courtesy when it comes to messaging.

I'm sorry this happened to you. It does change your perception of the friendship. Because how can one forget this?
My son was sick earlier this year, another friend's daughter was sick with the same thing. She was only talking about her daughter. I sent her info about chinese herbs, her only reply was: ok, did you try it? Never asked about my son, no thank you. I obviously didn't contact her anymore. We went to a chinese practicioner and the herbs really helped a lot. I didn't communicate with her after that.

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MartinCrieffsLemon · 25/11/2024 18:32

Why did you ask for opinions OP when you so staunchly believe you are right?

Acommonreader · 25/11/2024 18:35

It’s incredible that you put so much importance on a heart or thumbs up emoji! Why is it so incredibly significant for you to receive this tiny irrelevant validation ?
These things do not indicate how much someone likes or doesn’t like you.
I agree with everyone else that the hairdresser thing is batshit and yes, we all know how many hairdressers there are! Just needy.

AmadeustheAlpaca · 25/11/2024 18:41

I agree with you OP. I think it's rude not to reply to texts within a certain time frame. You don't ignore work emails or work related texts so why would you do that with your friends. It sends the message that you are low priority in their supposedly busy lives - clearly a lot of posters on this thread are guilty of doing this. You don't have to respond to the text with a massive saga, a brief acknowledgement usually does.
My take on the OP's hairdresser text was that she or he sent a nice message thanking them for a good haircut and the hairdresser sounded too rude or lazy to acknowledge it. A brief "thanks I appreciate your comments" would have done. As said hairdresser seems to have the time to be active on social media perhaps they should have had the business sense to try to retain a customer who might have let them use their positive comments as an online testimonial.
I don't think you sound needy at all OP but some of the posters on here sound downright nasty.

spidersandbees · 25/11/2024 18:44

I'm with you OP I think it's rude. You're completely entitled to set boundaries that work for you. It seems to be a thing these days that people are too busy to reply. More like too rude and self important.

Anuta77 · 25/11/2024 18:45

Calmhappyandhealthy · 25/11/2024 09:36

Like I said earlier, it's about expectation imo

For example, a few months ago, I voice noted a (very close?) friend with some info about a really big (and quite shocking) life change for me included health deterioration

She listened (ticks went blue) and THREE WEEKS later she replied, saying how sorry she was for the delay in replying, how am I feeling now etc

My expectation was that she could have shown more care and interest, more quickly

But she didn't

For me, it's useful info about her friendship and I now know more about her as a person (which amazingly, in 12 years, I hadn't found out before)

No need to dump her as a friend (she's got good qualities) but my new knowledge about her, is useful going forward

It seems that for many people just the fact that it's a text makes it less important and optional to reply. No matter the content.

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LindorDoubleChoc · 25/11/2024 18:50

spidersandbees · 25/11/2024 18:44

I'm with you OP I think it's rude. You're completely entitled to set boundaries that work for you. It seems to be a thing these days that people are too busy to reply. More like too rude and self important.

I think, for some of us older ones at least, that we grew up and had our formative years and well beyond when sending messages to friends or hairdressers just wasn't a thing. And so, it can feel like a bit of a chore to make sure you reply every time, especially if you don't have your phone glued to your hand.

Birthdays for example - the last few birthdays, I've spent more time replying to Happy Birthday messages and phone calls, than on actually doing the things I want to do on my birthday. Before the dominance of the smart phone, people would have sent me a card in the post and I wouldn't have felt the need to write back to them to thank them for that!

Times change, things move on, we all need to get with the programme yada yada. But I hope this sheds a small amount of light.

InfiniteTeas · 25/11/2024 18:50

I think the 'seen' function on Whatsapp has a lot to answer for, in terms of increasing people's anxiety levels. I went through a stage of getting very anxious if someone didn't reply to a message quickly. I could extrapolate whole extravagant scenarios in which I'd somehow caused enormous offence with an entirely mundane message. It was only when a friend disclosed similar feelings about messaging that I actually took a step back and realised how disordered my thinking around this had got. What helped was thinking through all the reasons why I might not reply to a message quickly - and then reminding myself that everyone else has all of that stuff going on.
For me, top of the list of reasons for forgetting to reply to a message is that I live near a town where the phone signal regularly disappears down some sort of black hole. You can sometimes receive messages, but you can't reply or make calls, and forget even trying to look at anything on the internet. If I'm in town and I get a message, I'll read it, try to reply, fail miserably, make a mental note to reply later, head home and out of the phone signal blackspot, receive approximately 500 messages from multiple school whatsapp groups, another dozen or so from the village whatsapp group, and one from my partner asking me if I bought milk. This has bumped the original message so far down the screen, that unless it is important enough to have been stuck in my mind all the way home, there's a reasonable chance I'll remember it in approximately three days' time. And then feel shit about it. And extrapolate a whole scenario in which the other person will never talk to me again.
I think this is one of those things where you have to remember that it is quite literally not about you. Easier said than done, maybe, but it does take the stress out of it if you can manage it.