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To think needing 9 hours solid sleep to function is ridiculous

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NightFeeds · 20/11/2024 07:47

That’s it really. Life feels like it is ruled by DH needing 9 hours sleep a night to function. No time for downtime after DC bedtime as it’s then his bedtime. Any disturbances and he’s ruined for days. I can’t compute but realise I’m probably being horrible and this is just a normal need I need to be more respectful of. I’d like to know what is considered normal by others

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Gogogo12345 · 21/11/2024 10:46

Alina3 · 20/11/2024 13:31

YABVU

Everyone is different and everyone has to manage their sleep in a way that works for them. If he knows he needs 9hr why would he deprive himself by forcing himself to sleep less to appease you? I don't know what you mean by the idea you get no downtime as he goes to bed after the kids. Why not? Do you insist on going to bed at the same time or something?

No he wants her to go to bed same time as him. Still doesn't solve issues of not having time to relax together if she stays up

mathanxiety · 21/11/2024 16:15

Alina3 · 20/11/2024 13:32

They tend to really prioritise sleep, and sleep train their babies once they're old enough. Until then, take it in turns to get sleep. Like all parents do really. Most people can survive on less sleep than they really need to function optimally for a time.

What actually happens 99% of the time is that the man snores on obliviously while the woman manages to get by on broken sleep for months, and never sleeps heavily again for the rest of her life.

mathanxiety · 21/11/2024 16:16

Yalta · 20/11/2024 12:22

I wonder if the tv disturbs him and he needs a silent house that is why he turns it off.

My mother was like this and insisted we all go to bed at 9pm latest. I would spend hours wide awake lying in bed. The very idea of staying up till 9.30pm or 10pm was unheard of.

Except she too couldn’t sleep and would take sleeping pills to knock herself out. It was quite frankly ridiculous

I get at least 4.5 hours sleep. Sometimes more depending what work has been like. (Very physical job)
I think that men want more sleep as they get older whilst women need less

Menopause has a strange effect on your sleep cycle

Two words - noise machine.

mathanxiety · 21/11/2024 16:26

NightFeeds · 20/11/2024 11:33

Hi all,
Thanks.
To answer some questions.

He has always needed quite a bit of sleep but the need does appear to have increased.
He does go to sleep pretty much straight away.
He can stay up later sometimes at weekends, it seems to vary a lot depending on what we are doing.
He does not like it if I come to bed later than him as it disturbs him.

He works compressed hours 4 days a week and it impacts him most on the nights before these long shifts.

I also work compressed hours 4 days a week with a different day off.

His days are longer than mine due to a commute. My days involve nursery pick up and drop off and cooking dinner as well as working from home so that makes it about equal, plus I make up a few hours a week of work over the weekend or over one night in the week.

From what I have read I am going to take it at face value that his sleep needs are genuine and I am going to try to make a clearer distinction between the work evenings and the weekend in terms of my expectations.

I am also going to sit down with him and try to agree a best use of my time when I do not want to go to bed, which is not disruptive to him but also is fair to me. I end up going to bed and lying awake reading my phone (which is too bright for him anyway) and feeling utterly despondent most nights and it’s got to change.

You should not have that sort of conversation with him.

You should not seek his imprimatur as to how you can spend your time in the evenings.

His response to you sticking up for yourself and not looking for his approval of your wishes or needs will tell you exactly what you're dealing with here.

Tell him flat out that being told when you go to bed is not on and must stop.
Tell him you'll be going to bed when you feel like going to bed.

Very often, people who can't sleep unless there's dead silence or have other very rigid routines around getting to sleep or staying asleep, or who try to impose their will on those they live with when it comes to sleep are either using control as a means of overcoming underlying anxiety or depression, or they are just controlling by nature.

The rigidity is a big problem here.
The ducking of partnership in the home and as parents "because wrecked" is also a big problem.
The idea that a grown adult can be told when she should go to bed to pander to another's issues is huge.
These are relationships issues that need to be tackled. The basic issue is inequality. He has put himself first.

Travellingheavily · 21/11/2024 17:45

mathanxiety · 21/11/2024 16:15

What actually happens 99% of the time is that the man snores on obliviously while the woman manages to get by on broken sleep for months, and never sleeps heavily again for the rest of her life.

Yep, one toe on the floorboards and I’m awake

Toptops · 21/11/2024 17:56

That's the amount of sleep he needs.

LuckySantangelo35 · 21/11/2024 17:59

Toptops · 21/11/2024 17:56

That's the amount of sleep he needs.

@Toptops

No, it’s the amount he wants, not the amount he needs.

ByHardyRubyEagle · 21/11/2024 17:59

Some people need more sleep than others, and 9 hours is a fairly standard amount. Though obviously not great if you have young children and he decides nothing should disturb his precious sleep and you are up all night instead, then that would just be shitty.

restingbitchface30 · 21/11/2024 18:02

Completely normal. I need 9 hours to be completely with it the next day. However once I get my twins to bed it’s half 8 and I also need a few hours downtime too. So I have 7 most nights. But 9 is optimum for me.

Elle2018 · 21/11/2024 18:07

My job is very mentally draining, if I’ve had a particularly busy day using my brain I need more sleep. Maybe it’s just this rather than something physical?

OldScribbler · 21/11/2024 18:09

Fimofriend · 20/11/2024 07:49

No that is not normal and he should talk to his GP ad it could be a sign of an underlying illness.

People vary. I live with someone who appears able to manage on 4 hours during the week but much longer at the weekend.

Mamabearsmile · 21/11/2024 18:15

By the experts? 9 hours. Just about every life and psychological system needs 9 hours. Lots of great research out there. To have less makes you open to dementia, cancers, depression, ruins your mental health et al.

Single50something · 21/11/2024 18:15

Moonlightstars · 20/11/2024 07:51

Wow I would love to sleep 9 hours but through insomnia and kids and life I never get more than 6!

Was about to say the same. 6 is good but I do flag by the afternoon. Would love 9 :)

tommyhoundmum · 21/11/2024 18:18

I think I'm doing well on 5 or 6 .

ThisRedLion · 21/11/2024 18:20

It's kind of a double edged knife, has this always been the case since you've been together or is it a more recent ish thing, he may need to do fbc at the docs see if he's lacking in b12 or iron deficiency or something else underlying, I know I sleep a good 8hrs daily not so much the weekends but definitely in the week, otherwise it's knocks me sideways some people deffo suffer through lack of a decent sleep would talk to your partner if its a more recent thing encourage them to have an mot at the gp

Cm19841 · 21/11/2024 18:36

If my partner interfered with me wanting to go to bed once the kids were asleep I would have an issue with the relationship.

We have a 2 year old. Both work full-time. I work 8-4:30pm. These years are physically tough. When my child is in bed about an hour later I go to bed. Occasionally I stay up but most of the time I need to rest and sleep.

coffeesaveslives · 21/11/2024 18:38

Cm19841 · 21/11/2024 18:36

If my partner interfered with me wanting to go to bed once the kids were asleep I would have an issue with the relationship.

We have a 2 year old. Both work full-time. I work 8-4:30pm. These years are physically tough. When my child is in bed about an hour later I go to bed. Occasionally I stay up but most of the time I need to rest and sleep.

But I assume you don't force your partner to go to bed with you? Or refuse to get up to do any of the night wakings, which is what OP's partner does to her?

Mamabearsmile · 21/11/2024 18:45

It's very normal and research based.

MustWeDoThis · 21/11/2024 18:53

Fimofriend · 20/11/2024 07:49

No that is not normal and he should talk to his GP ad it could be a sign of an underlying illness.

It is indeed normal and healthy. He's looking after his health. We are just living in an age where it has become unhealthily normal to not get more than 7 hours of sleep, because our phones are now TV&PC's we carry around as an extension of ourselves - Even in bed.

To think needing 9 hours solid sleep to function is ridiculous
Pixiedust88 · 21/11/2024 18:54

If I sleep more than 6 hours I wake up with a horrendous headache. I can function on 2 but I’m vile

peanutmother · 21/11/2024 19:00

Quite normal

I like to sleep 9/10 hours

angela1952 · 21/11/2024 19:06

Perhaps he doesn’t sleep that well? If he is restless and wakes up a lot in the night he has nothing like 9 hours sleep.

moaningmyrtle4 · 21/11/2024 19:12

People saying he has an underlying condition. Many people just need more sleep! I am one of them. Anything under 8-9 hours and I’m struggling

Sennelier1 · 21/11/2024 19:38

I don't agree with those saying the OP doesn't respect her husband's need for sleep, she's only asking for other people's experiences. And I think that she and her DH need a good talk about going to bed at the same time. OP might benefit from an evening in front of the tele or reading a book. I do know it's absolutely possible to slide yourself between the sheets without waking up your partner 😊

Hankunamatata · 21/11/2024 19:50

Compressed hours arnt ideal if he needs 9 hours sleep. You probably have better balance if he work 5 days