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To think needing 9 hours solid sleep to function is ridiculous

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NightFeeds · 20/11/2024 07:47

That’s it really. Life feels like it is ruled by DH needing 9 hours sleep a night to function. No time for downtime after DC bedtime as it’s then his bedtime. Any disturbances and he’s ruined for days. I can’t compute but realise I’m probably being horrible and this is just a normal need I need to be more respectful of. I’d like to know what is considered normal by others

OP posts:
Marblesbackagain · 20/11/2024 14:27

vickylou78 · 20/11/2024 14:22

But he's currently making her go to bed at 9pm!

And my comment was before that 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

vickylou78 · 20/11/2024 14:28

Marblesbackagain · 20/11/2024 14:27

And my comment was before that 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

It's in the Op that he switches everything off and makes her go to bed!! Why does his health trump her health?

Marblesbackagain · 20/11/2024 14:30

vickylou78 · 20/11/2024 14:28

It's in the Op that he switches everything off and makes her go to bed!! Why does his health trump her health?

Again for those at the back my comments were prior to this.,🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤣

HotCrossBunplease · 20/11/2024 14:31

Marblesbackagain · 20/11/2024 14:30

Again for those at the back my comments were prior to this.,🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤣

Prior to the OP? Are you a bit tired?

coffeesaveslives · 20/11/2024 14:34

Marblesbackagain · 20/11/2024 14:30

Again for those at the back my comments were prior to this.,🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤣

You wrote your responses before the OP started the thread?!

Loxiro · 20/11/2024 14:34

I’ve just went back to re-read the OP and this below would really grind my gears :

I will be lulled into chilling out and then 10 minutes later he will snap it off and be like “bedtime!”.

Ew 😑😆 like how dare you make a unilateral decision to switch off the movie I’m watching because you’re going to bed 🤣

Marlhmarlol · 20/11/2024 14:35

Yeah, that is ridiculous OP. I'm sure we'd all love to spend over 1/3 of life lying in bed but that's just not realistic when you are an adult with a job and children and responsibilities.

doctorsleep · 20/11/2024 14:36

I wish I could sleep 9 hours!

Marblesbackagain · 20/11/2024 14:39

HotCrossBunplease · 20/11/2024 14:31

Prior to the OP? Are you a bit tired?

No, because I get my 7 hours hun, but my post obviously loaded afterwards.

kittylion2 · 20/11/2024 14:47

Yeah I think people's opinions might have been different if you had made it clear from the start that he expects you to go to bed a 9 too, whether you want to or not.

Even if you are understanding about his need for sleep, (although one can't help wondering what would happen with the children and night wakings etc if you also had the same need), him insisting you give up your own evenings and spoil your own sleep pattern because otherwise you "disturb" him is both unreasonable and controlling.

You are doing a lot for him and are trying to be very understanding, so he needs to think of a way for you to have a more "normal" bedtime and to be able to have a bit more of an evening if you want to.

JetskiSkyJumper · 20/11/2024 15:00

I definitely need a good 8/9 hrs a night. My dh can survive with 5/6 and I've no idea how!

Didimum · 20/11/2024 15:16

I definitely need 9 hours to function well, and always have needed a lot of sleep. I 'can' function on less (and have as I have twins), but have been miserable, unwell and very stressed.

XmassssamX · 20/11/2024 16:10

OMG I can’t get my head around you also going to bed at 9 wide awake, that’s crazy.
He’s going to sulk if and hopefully when you stop doing this but that’s his problem.

RedPony1 · 20/11/2024 16:58

My life doesnt allow 9 hours sleep, even if i needed it! and it wouldnt suit me to have a partner that needed that much sleep to function.
We're opten not even going out until 9pm for food or to see friends, or going on a dog walk.

Neverlikedwatermuch · 20/11/2024 17:32

Does he take any multi vitamins? I wouldn’t be happy about the expectation of silence so he could sleep, but 9 hours is normal for some people. I need around the same to fully function but most night I get 6 hours if I’m lucky.

mathanxiety · 20/11/2024 17:46

Some people need nine hours, but all the same, being wrecked and barely able to function for days if he misses and hour or two is either a case of your H using it as an excuse for opting out of participation in family life or he has a medical condition (physical or mental health) that needs to be addressed.

The inability to function part is not normal at all.

mathanxiety · 20/11/2024 17:50

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 20/11/2024 08:09

He isn't forcing the OP to spend 9 hours in bed. She can unwind without him, she just doesn't want to.

The DH needs to sleep 9 hours to feel OK. The OP wants him to stay up later. The two are not comparable.

It isn't reasonable to expect someone to compromise their own physical wellbeing to meet your own social needs.

I got the message that the OP wants him to get on with participation in family life and parenting despite missing an hour or so every now and then.

I think he's taking the piss.

If his energy is so depleted by eight hours of sleep of a night that he is too exhausted or bad tempered or foggy in the brain to be a team player in the home, there is something wrong.

MagnoliaGirlie · 20/11/2024 18:57

Arraminta · 20/11/2024 10:47

Agree with every word. There's a reason that sleep deprivation is used as a form of torture, after all. I feel absolutely wretched if I have to curtail my sleep. I 100% believe that lack of sleep massively exacerbated my PND after DD1 was born. I was always destined to get PND, thanks to being highly progesterone intolerant, but lack of sleep made it ten times harder to cope.

DD1 is just the same, and I've reassured her that when she has a baby we will happily pay for a maternity nurse if she's struggling.

But that's the point right, you need your sleep and sleep deprivation broke you, and yet you still powered through and went through it because you had a young child and it just comes with it. Seems like the OP's DH isn't sharing the load and lack of sleep, and it's all on OP to deal with night wakes and shorter sleep.

LemongrassLollipop · 20/11/2024 21:35

SharpOpalNewt · 20/11/2024 09:50

Now sometimes I have two sleeps. One from 9pm-12pm on the sofa, then I go to bed and I'm awake for an hour or so, then I go off to sleep again and get up in the morning.

It's what people often did at one time.

www.bbc.com/future/article/20220107-the-lost-medieval-habit-of-biphasic-sleep

Just off to read this article with interest. Thanks for posting!
I do this and beat myself up thinking I can't get to bed at a decent time and it's uninterrupted sleep.

Marlhmarlol · 21/11/2024 01:08

And yes, telling another adult what time they will go to bed is beyond nuts! Just say "no"! Weirdly controlling and quite bizarre.

Strictlymad · 21/11/2024 01:24

NightFeeds · 20/11/2024 11:33

Hi all,
Thanks.
To answer some questions.

He has always needed quite a bit of sleep but the need does appear to have increased.
He does go to sleep pretty much straight away.
He can stay up later sometimes at weekends, it seems to vary a lot depending on what we are doing.
He does not like it if I come to bed later than him as it disturbs him.

He works compressed hours 4 days a week and it impacts him most on the nights before these long shifts.

I also work compressed hours 4 days a week with a different day off.

His days are longer than mine due to a commute. My days involve nursery pick up and drop off and cooking dinner as well as working from home so that makes it about equal, plus I make up a few hours a week of work over the weekend or over one night in the week.

From what I have read I am going to take it at face value that his sleep needs are genuine and I am going to try to make a clearer distinction between the work evenings and the weekend in terms of my expectations.

I am also going to sit down with him and try to agree a best use of my time when I do not want to go to bed, which is not disruptive to him but also is fair to me. I end up going to bed and lying awake reading my phone (which is too bright for him anyway) and feeling utterly despondent most nights and it’s got to change.

Get a kindle, it’s not like a phone to stare at so not going to wreck your sleep pattern and won’t be so bright as to disturb him. I need minimum 9 hours (10-7) to feel not like death so I think it’s not abnormal. I’ve always envied people who have 6/7 hours and wake up fresh as a daisy I’d love to have more hours in my day!

HarrietBond · 21/11/2024 07:42

But lying in the dark on a kindle from 9pm every evening may not be what the OP wants to do with her time every day, nor should that be required of her. Although I agree that the Kindle is better but not much use if you’re not a big reader or the books you want to read are in hard copy.

Mix56 · 21/11/2024 07:48

You need to say No to being forced to go to bed, not allowed to read, or watch TV.
If HE wants to go to bed at the same time as the children, you are not stopping him. You already know he is not interested in any interaction with You. He has to accept you are a living breathing individual adult, You will decide for yourself when you go to bed.
I paint, I sometimes paint till after midnight. Sometimes I do admin or reply to emails, chat to a friend, read, do my nails.
I enjoy the calm, at least I feel there's a purpose to my day, not just expedite the day & sleep until the next. wasting basically 20 odd hours of my life a week. Thats the equivalent of a whole day lost,
H used to play this bullying game, and the onus was, I should be wife & do the same...
Basically he is selfish, he is not interested in my wellbeing or interaction.
So please just tell him factually, he needs his sleep so jog on.

Loxiro · 21/11/2024 07:51

Strictlymad · 21/11/2024 01:24

Get a kindle, it’s not like a phone to stare at so not going to wreck your sleep pattern and won’t be so bright as to disturb him. I need minimum 9 hours (10-7) to feel not like death so I think it’s not abnormal. I’ve always envied people who have 6/7 hours and wake up fresh as a daisy I’d love to have more hours in my day!

nah, it’s absolutely unacceptable that he thinks he can tell her when to go to bed. She should read a paperback, watch tv, text her friends, make a call or whatever the heck she wants to do at 9pm when he goes off to bed.

Compash · 21/11/2024 10:43

Yeah, for all I'm defending the 'long-sleepers club', it's absolutely not on for him to send you to bed like a child...

I agree with previous posters, separate bedrooms are fantastic, if you can possibly do that. And very trendy these days, doncha know...