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Newborn, DH threats to not help anymore

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MincePieFan88 · 20/11/2024 02:02

I'm losing my mind and need to write this down. I have a 12 week old baby (ok technically not a newborn anymore). In the early days, DH was brilliant. He did every nappy change, night wakes, he was down in the trenches with me, supporting me with breastfeeding, did everything all the books say he should do. He was great, super patient, I fell in love with him all over again tbh.

But that's slowly tailed off. He still does loads with baby but very little around the house (he does cook dinner but cleaning up the mess takes twice as long). And I'm struggling. Every single time we have an argument (over really minor stuff), he says "well, if you think I'm so shit, I'll just stop doing anything". Earlier today he said this in response to me asking him to do something, not even arguing actually.

He came back a few times from work and socials with stories about other men he knows who do nothing. How X and Y also have babies and they never wake up at night and never change any nappies. Like he's some hero for watching his own son.

The whole undertone is about how I should be grateful for anything he does.

He also told friends at the weekend that last Friday he had his first night out since DS was born. Total lie. He's been out drinking once a week, every week, since week 2. I was too stunned to pull him up on it.

It's just making me feel so shit. I feel totally alone and worthless and like I've made the worst mistake of my life.

Before any mysoginistic pricks come at me telling me I should do it all, note I make 2x his salary (and my mat leave is fully paid) and he has an easy office job, he's home at 4pm on the dot every day. He even has time to train for a fucking marathon right now. He's not some emergency worker doing 80 hour weeks swept off his feet, with the entire financial burden on him.

OP posts:
thepariscrimefiles · 20/11/2024 14:37

Grmumpy · 20/11/2024 09:52

Good grief I haven’t time to read the ft but people telling you to leave him are imo wrong. You presumably loved him enough to marry him and have a child with him. The issues you are having are weeks old. You write as though everything is bad about him but good about you. Unsurprisingly, You are probably overtired and emotional. He might not be doing what you want him to do or perhaps he should be doing. Is he a nice person? A kind person? You need time together without the baby as soon as possible and to be able to talk to each other and have a brief spell of baby free fun. New dads often feel pushed out by new babies and the intense relationship that mums and new babies have. Think of three of his good points as a starter perhaps.

He has just refused to heat up her lunch in the microwave while she is breastfeeding her child. Does that sound like a nice or kind person to you?

thepariscrimefiles · 20/11/2024 14:38

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 20/11/2024 10:51

He sounds like he feels unappreciated. Have you told him how great he's been in tge first few months and how much you appreciate this?

Is this a fucking joke?

Daddydog · 20/11/2024 14:54

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 20/11/2024 14:10

Totally. And just to add to it, she was born to a 13 year old, adopted as a 6 week old baby to her wonderful mom who couldn't have kids. Her Baby shower was hosted in the Hospice as her mum died of cancer 5 weeks before our baby was born. A lot of expectations which I was unable to manage due to circumstances :(

Oh my goodness that's sad, your poor poor wife. I hope she's doing very well now.

Awe thanks, she's honestly doing amazing - she's basically Catwoman! 😂 So sorry, honestly didn't mean sidetrack this thread. I was just trying to say that it just takes a while with a new baby it takes a while before balance can happen. Currently in 5 weeks in the last 8 of solo parenting our 2 and 5 year olds (partner has a global role) - my efforts will never be or seen as 50/50, no matter how much it feels it is. I think I'm doing my bit, doing a good job - but my partner thinks she's coming up short and pushes parenthood into godlike levels! From what I see, it's pretty true for most

Rosscameasdoody · 20/11/2024 20:13

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 20/11/2024 10:51

He sounds like he feels unappreciated. Have you told him how great he's been in tge first few months and how much you appreciate this?

You win the internet for today, for this, the most inane, pathetically laughable comment. Why should OP praise him for helping out with his own child ? You need to raise your bar.

XChrome · 20/11/2024 20:19

Fantapops · 20/11/2024 11:00

If it's 'lucky' to have a husband that will willingly cook dinner after a short office shift when the wife has been home caring for and breastfeeding a baby all day then my god I'm glad I'm a lesbian. Get some higher standards for goodness sake!

Agree. The interalized misogyny types certainly are out in full force in this thread.

Nanny0gg · 20/11/2024 21:06

Daddydog · 20/11/2024 11:33

It's the first 12 weeks. It's a massive life changing experience and without sleep and learning how to take care of a tiny human, perspectives on both sides become a bit skewed. As a man, even though I did everything I possibly could it will never be 50% because I didn't carry of give birth and have to go through then feeling of running 5 marathons and the emotional, hormonal and mental stain that came with it for weeks after. However, it's unfair to say that i didn't feel some of the above because I was right there, 24/7 - it was just a different but still valid experience.

And during those early days, both of us running on no sleep, the 'you don't do anything' was repeatedly thrown In my face. I knew (or believed) that I was pulling my weight and would keep reminding myself it was just the stress of the situation. There were times when I too got frustrated and would snap back or sulk. Dammed if I do and dammed if I don't. I felt so lonely, especially as I didn't have anyone to relate to as no other dad I knew did as much. They couldn't comprehend my situation. It's how I ended up on Mumsnet. Our baby's first word was dada (obviously as it's easier) and yet she calls me 'momma' 😂

Who does more or less is subjective, and those first few months, it's hard to see anything straight. Whoever had the baby would end up with a bit of tunnel vision.

I always wished there was a camera crew following us for that first 3 months because both of us would have realised how skewed our perspectives were and how we supported each other to get through it.

It was later when she came back from a girls weekend and sharing baby war stories that she realised how radically different her experience was vs her friends. Their partners are certainly not useless but the penny dropped that I had really tried my hardest.

Who does more or less isn't subjective

It's easily verified.

BonniesSlave · 21/11/2024 19:58

MincePieFan88 · 20/11/2024 02:02

I'm losing my mind and need to write this down. I have a 12 week old baby (ok technically not a newborn anymore). In the early days, DH was brilliant. He did every nappy change, night wakes, he was down in the trenches with me, supporting me with breastfeeding, did everything all the books say he should do. He was great, super patient, I fell in love with him all over again tbh.

But that's slowly tailed off. He still does loads with baby but very little around the house (he does cook dinner but cleaning up the mess takes twice as long). And I'm struggling. Every single time we have an argument (over really minor stuff), he says "well, if you think I'm so shit, I'll just stop doing anything". Earlier today he said this in response to me asking him to do something, not even arguing actually.

He came back a few times from work and socials with stories about other men he knows who do nothing. How X and Y also have babies and they never wake up at night and never change any nappies. Like he's some hero for watching his own son.

The whole undertone is about how I should be grateful for anything he does.

He also told friends at the weekend that last Friday he had his first night out since DS was born. Total lie. He's been out drinking once a week, every week, since week 2. I was too stunned to pull him up on it.

It's just making me feel so shit. I feel totally alone and worthless and like I've made the worst mistake of my life.

Before any mysoginistic pricks come at me telling me I should do it all, note I make 2x his salary (and my mat leave is fully paid) and he has an easy office job, he's home at 4pm on the dot every day. He even has time to train for a fucking marathon right now. He's not some emergency worker doing 80 hour weeks swept off his feet, with the entire financial burden on him.

Lol have you met mumsnet? Everyone is gonna be on your side hes being preposterous
x

MirandaJH · 21/11/2024 22:40

I relate to you very much on this! My husband was the same to begin with and over time has got lazier. I feel like I’m micromanaging him because if I don’t nag him eight times to do simple tasks that he used to do, it doesn’t get done. Things like hoovering, taking the bin out, feeding the dog. What’s frustrating is he acts like because I’m off with baby I do nothing, but I’m actually doing a university degree right now, am the only one who cleans and does laundry, organises literally everything we do on the weekends as a family, etc. Today he came home and didn’t even greet the baby, then when I asked him to play with him he got annoyed that he “never gets to rest” despite the amount of time he sits in front of the TV. He does alternating nights for baby’s one night feed but wakes up annoyed about it every time. We have a date night once a month but to be honest I don’t really enjoy spending time with him now as he spends half the time people watching instead.

Itsmidnight · 22/11/2024 00:43

recipientofraspberries · 20/11/2024 02:55

The second thread in five minutes I've read involving a man being an absolute waste of space. I really don't know what to do with the anger it brings up inside me. What do they think women are, second class citizens who just automatically do everything childcare and housework, who they can deign to help if they're feeling generous? I just can't get my head around it and it makes me sad, actually, that they have such a disconnect in their minds around how they (by they I mean men like this - I know some men are fine) treat the women in their life, and the effect it has on them. It's cruel. It's just cruel.

Agree. My own husband became a completely different person after baby. My LO is almost 1 year old now and he hasn't done any mornings in the last few months. He was up in his room for TWO WHOLE DAYS saying he needed a quiet moment.

He's also become aggressive and punching walls. The trouble is I'm financially stuck. It would be so much easier if women had access to the money, think we would all just leave

Thevelvelletes · 22/11/2024 01:11

How thick have you to be taking advice from the soon to be divorced is he really that stupid he wants to join the bitter and stupid club.

PinkChesnut · 22/11/2024 01:55

Itsmidnight · 22/11/2024 00:43

Agree. My own husband became a completely different person after baby. My LO is almost 1 year old now and he hasn't done any mornings in the last few months. He was up in his room for TWO WHOLE DAYS saying he needed a quiet moment.

He's also become aggressive and punching walls. The trouble is I'm financially stuck. It would be so much easier if women had access to the money, think we would all just leave

I am so sorry for you.... your sig.o. is an abusive jerk.

I hope you are able to get out.

Thevelvelletes · 22/11/2024 02:38

Just saw the punching walls part ..that's a violent act to warn you this could be you I'm hitting.
I hope you're able to leave.hes a domestic abuser nothing more.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 22/11/2024 08:21

Itsmidnight · 22/11/2024 00:43

Agree. My own husband became a completely different person after baby. My LO is almost 1 year old now and he hasn't done any mornings in the last few months. He was up in his room for TWO WHOLE DAYS saying he needed a quiet moment.

He's also become aggressive and punching walls. The trouble is I'm financially stuck. It would be so much easier if women had access to the money, think we would all just leave

Even if you don't feel able to leave yet, get this documented - police or GP. Domestic abuse is something that can get you legal aid if you wouldn't otherwise qualify.

telestrations · 22/11/2024 08:53

I'm just a couple of weeks ahead of you so can offer some perspective from being in the same trench as you right now....

First my DH also did absolutely everything and I fell in love with him all over again.

Likewise as I became more capable, having recovered from my C-section, he started doing less and expecting me to do more. This is also when his exhaustion kicked in, or I was well enough for him to allow himself to be. You can also swap marathon trading with attending football matches.

Also likewise both of us being exhausted, doing way more then were used to or ever have before, trying to it together and equally, and having now done it for 12-14 weeks without any break we argue and have done and said things our normal selves would not. And this is while we are both not working.

The reality of parenthood is that it's not fair and really fucking hard and you will both do and say things you would never do in any other circumstance, and moherhood is hardest and unfairest of all.

For all of our progression the brutal fact remains that fatherhood is voluntary and motherhood is mandatory. We are at the mercy of our partners. We do the jobs he doesn't want to or when he tires of them, we are often the first to cook and last to eat, the first to bed and the last to sleep and so on. And this is if you're together or separated, single or co-parenting, and if you're well educated, well paid, career smashing or not.

It doesn't mean put up and shut up, this is an even super fast track to divorce. But it does mean you both need to forgive, forget and move on immediately and constantly while also stating your wants and needs from eachother in a constant and ever changing negotiation.

LondonUSAGirl · 15/04/2025 13:30

Wow, I would really love to know if your husband actually stepped up and started helping again.

MincePieFan88 · 16/04/2025 02:42

@LondonUSAGirl in a way, he really has. I had to learn (and keep learning) to stand up for myself. Every boundary I have set, every request, he has done it, no push back. I have had to learn to carve time out for myself, to give him tasks, to really spell stuff out in a non-emotional way. It's frustrating as he doesn't really consider what I/ baby needs and I need to spell it out. But when I do, he does it.

I feel like the fun police but it works.

I am basically my mother.

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doodahdayy · 16/04/2025 02:46

It sounds like you have two children to look after

MincePieFan88 · 16/04/2025 03:04

@doodahdayy No. Two children would be much easier (and cuter).

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