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Has afternoon tea food for a child changed significantly?

213 replies

DeepBalonz · 13/11/2024 17:10

I’ve just moved back to the UK. DS (4) has a play date with the neighbour’s son. As a 90s kid I was given fish fingers and beans, dinosaurs and peas etc as tea at friends’ houses.

Is that kind of food still the done thing or has it all gone a bit posh along with most other things?

Too early for dinner but still a decent time since lunch so fruit and peanut butter probably won’t be enough.

OP posts:
Marblesbackagain · 13/11/2024 19:10

GermanBite · 13/11/2024 19:07

@Marblesbackagain what would a small snack look like in this scenario? Assuming he finishes lunch at midday and won't eat dinner until after 6pm?

Here it would have been some fruit or cheese crackers, or half a toastie or hummus and veggie dippers or something baked.

They ate three meals as will these children

Floralnomad · 13/11/2024 19:11

I’d just do sandwiches or cheese on toast with some cucumber , carrot bits , fruit and a yoghurt or jelly .

Nordione1 · 13/11/2024 19:12

FloatyBoaty · 13/11/2024 19:10

I think what you’re planning sounds fine, OP. If it helps for the future, here’s a list of meals I’ve served kids/ my kid has been served on play dates recently. All have been very acceptable, and nobody has ever raised concerns.

We do avoid nuts and some other allergens because kids we know have allergies, so we tend to play it quite safe on that front -

pizza and veg sticks with hummus
spag bol and garlic bread
sausage and mash and peas
noodle stir fry with chicken and veg
picnic plates
tomato and cheese pasta
chicken wraps with salad and fries
BBQ sausages and burgers with corn on the cob, salads and garlic bread
pancakes (that was a breakfast play date but we do make pancakes for lunch sometimes)

Puddings are typically an ice lolly, fruit or a slice of cake (less often). Our friends don’t really do fizzy drinks or sweets on play dates unless it’s a VERY special occasion- and again, I tend to err on the side of caution with that stuff.

The kid isn't staying for supper. It's going for supper at its grandparents at 6.

GameOfJones · 13/11/2024 19:18

I'd be grateful whatever you fed mine, but if she said no to you providing dinner then I wouldn't give them fish fingers etc.

My friends when they've had my two in similar situations have given them beans on toast. I tend to play it safe as well and offer a sandwich and some fruit, or a toasted bagel and a yoghurt or something like that.

GermanBite · 13/11/2024 19:19

I'm genuinely bemused about all these pre-schoolers who happily get through 6.5 hours on a single piece of fruit.

My 6 year old can do that now. In pre-school no chance!

The issue here isn't op - it's the parent taking a 4 year old out for dinner after 6pm when they ate lunch at 11.30am.

BaconMassive · 13/11/2024 19:20

3pm pack of crisps.

5.50pm something sugary, send them home with a bounce.

NoisyDenimShaker · 13/11/2024 19:30

Fish fingers, bean, dinosaurs, and peas....DINOSAURS???? 😂

mymissycat · 13/11/2024 19:31

HollyKnight · 13/11/2024 18:54

I would probably just give a small toasted pancake and a petit filous yogurt. Children's bellies don't need to be full at all times.

I’m not from the UK, but wth is a toasted pancake? How do you make it? And how would you put it in the toaster? 😅

BarbaraHoward · 13/11/2024 19:35

Nordione1 · 13/11/2024 19:12

The kid isn't staying for supper. It's going for supper at its grandparents at 6.

It?!

BarbaraHoward · 13/11/2024 19:37

mymissycat · 13/11/2024 19:31

I’m not from the UK, but wth is a toasted pancake? How do you make it? And how would you put it in the toaster? 😅

Edited

Packaged pancakes, closer to American style than crepes. Just pop in the toaster like bread to warm up.

stichguru · 13/11/2024 19:38

If they've had lunch and they are planning tea. I'd have some choice of light bites - fruit, breadsticks and humous, maybe a little sweet thing (a small slice of cake or a kitkat). That being said, I'd ask the mum honestly. Kids eat very differently at that age. If you'd fed my child 2-3 fish fingers and beans, the he wouldn't have wanted tea out. Probably triple the food he needed between lunch and tea!

Goldbar · 13/11/2024 19:38

NoisyDenimShaker · 13/11/2024 19:30

Fish fingers, bean, dinosaurs, and peas....DINOSAURS???? 😂

Chicken or potato, I'm presuming 😂.

I seem to remember a lot more odd-shaped, beige concoctions with indeterminate fillings floating round in the 80s and 90s than there are nowadays. The Jamie Oliver effect, maybe.

SeatonCarew · 13/11/2024 19:39

FlingThatCarrot · 13/11/2024 17:39

That wouldn't be acceptable around here. Frozen food type stuff is pretty looked down on. My kids wouldn't eat nuggets or fish fingers but would eat chicken thighs/ an actual piece of fish.

Something like cheese and crackers or pitta and houmous with veggie sticks or crumpets or savory muffin with fruit would be more common.

Surely you mean, "less common"?

tachetastic · 13/11/2024 19:39

I have read all OP's comments but not all the other replies so apologies if I am repeating.

I think the type of food you are serving is spot on, but if they are having lunch at nursery and your neighbour has told you they have supper plans with grandparents, then sitting them down to a plateful of food that a polite child will finish may fill him up and spoil his family's evening plans.

If I am feeding DC's friends mid afternoon I normally cook a pizza and possibly a bowl of potato wedges, or humous and carrot sticks (as well as the pizza), so if they are hungry they can eat, but if they are not they don't feel obliged to.

Goldbar · 13/11/2024 19:40

Crepes are a good call, if you have a crepe pan. Fill with grated or cream cheese or Nutella and pear, or serve the old fashioned way with a little dusting of sugar and lemon.

Nordione1 · 13/11/2024 19:41

BarbaraHoward · 13/11/2024 19:35

It?!

Oh you know what I mean! Come on Barb!

Anna808 · 13/11/2024 19:41

Genuinely can’t recall what I ate as child at my home or friends - which is a bit weird but I digress…I remember something chip like called alphabeties, and my gosh I loved Heinz spaghetti hoops. Slush Puppies for a treat…. Memory lane….
Kids having a snacky tea before a full supper or a full tea with no supper seems to make sense. Pending what age groups kids may be, tend to go for steamed or grilled veg with some kind of grains and a salady thing - green leaves or something and a yoghurt for after for supper and a salad & grains of a light tea.

tachetastic · 13/11/2024 19:44

And for goodness sake, check for allergies. They didn't seem to exist when I was a kid in the 70s and 80s, but when I was preparing food for DS's birthday party this year we had different kids that couldn't eat gluten, lactose, milk protein (which apparently is a different allergy to lactose), nuts, eggs and processed sugar. 😱

Marblesbackagain · 13/11/2024 19:45

BarbaraHoward · 13/11/2024 19:35

It?!

My autocorrect 🤣 🤣 I couldn't remember sex and put it kid🤣

LSTMS30555 · 13/11/2024 19:48

@DeepBalonz a few fish fingers/chicken nuggets, beans & hand full of chips is perfectly fine.
Mine would have no problem wolfing it down and later having their actual evening meal.

NoisyDenimShaker · 13/11/2024 19:49

Goldbar · 13/11/2024 19:38

Chicken or potato, I'm presuming 😂.

I seem to remember a lot more odd-shaped, beige concoctions with indeterminate fillings floating round in the 80s and 90s than there are nowadays. The Jamie Oliver effect, maybe.

I HOPE they mean chicken or potato, otherwise I want to know what specialist butcher this is! 😂

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 13/11/2024 20:01

If the mother has said that the child is eating again when they get home then I would do a couple of sandwiches with a few bits of veg sticks / fruit on the side and maybe a yogurt or cake / biscuit.

If you are feeding them at 3.00 pm then it's still quite a long time til the play date ends at 6.00.

WiddlinDiddlin · 13/11/2024 20:10

Bjorkdidit · 13/11/2024 19:03

But the OP is saying 2 fish fingers and a spoon or two of beans and hasn't mentioned baked potatoes or toast at all and yet nearly everyone is saying that about 200 calories of fish fingers and beans is far too much but a pile of crumpets, biscuits, yogurts, cheese, pancakes etc is all fine. Makes no sense whatsoever.

And what's wrong with hot food exactly? So many people seem to think it's the OP that's overfeeding because her DC has more than one hot meal a day, yet they're suggesting she offers a load of carby cold crap instead.

Three or four table spoons of beans and three fishfingers... thats quite a lot, half a 400g can!

British Heart Foundation suggests 3 fish fingers is an adult portion. (Birdseye suggest four).

Nowt wrong with hot food at all, not sure where I said there was. Just don't understand why hot food seems to be better than, provide more energy than, cold food. It doesn't have any bearing on the nutritional or energy value at all.

Differentstarts · 13/11/2024 20:18

GermanBite · 13/11/2024 19:05

Do you honestly think a 4 year old will get through from midday to after 6pm on one piece of fruit or a packet of crisps?

I get that more than 3 meals is generally unnecessary but nurseries and pre-schools do meals at times that sometimes make it necessary.

Yes I do, people overfeed their kids. Kids don't need to snack hourly. One snack between 12 and 6 around 3pm is fine

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 13/11/2024 20:24

If the mum has declined a meal then I think what you’re suggesting is too much. That is what my 5 year old would eat for his evening meal. He definitely wouldn’t be able to eat another meal after.

I'd probably go for some fruit or crackers, something very snacky and nothing cooked.