Am I old or has shite behaviour become normal behaviour?

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Ok. Fully prepared to be told I am unreasonable but I’m nearly choking from clutching my pearls here….

1. on a plane last week. Child with iPad on full volume. No attempt to reduce volume and no headphones in sight. No one except me seemed to be bothered so I quietly seethed.

2. in John Lewis today. Cafe. Quiet and calm except for parents entertaining toddler by playing baby shark over and over. I felt I had to leave. No one else seemed to even flinch.

3. the gym yesterday. Watching greys anatomy with my headphones on. Still had subtitles because the noise from spin was a LOT. Guy gets on the one next to me and sticks a programme on full volume. I went for pointed look but not up for confrontation tbh. He moved around the gym with his super loud programme following him.

IS THIS NORMAL. Or am I turning into cranky old bint. Am only 46. Didn’t see it coming.

I think that the collective agreement of decent behaviour in public has been broken.

There are a lot of people claiming their rights trump other peoples rights.

I am old too, but not that old.

A lot depends on place on a lot depends on leadership.

If the gym /resturant/ plane had a policy and enforced it you would not have that issue.

But - money...

Agreed. Also because more and more people do it, people feel it's more acceptable, like how people used to smoke in shopping centres, pubs and restaurants etc (and chuck cig ends everywhere) 20+ years ago.

I feel your pain. Had a Brazilian woman and her partner talking all night to their relatives on a ward of 10 new mums and babies. Wouldn’t shut up even when other partners told them to (why the partners were there on a female only ward at 10pm at night is beyond me, neither mothers or baby’s could get any sleep). I was supposed to stay in for an extra night due to c-section and blood loss but discharged myself so I could get home and get some sleep.
This was 2016 and I put it down to them being from a different culture but I think they were just bloody selfish pricks.

So your dd has sound playing in public without headphones then..

Yeah I was a teenager over 25 years ago and teens definitely played annoying music at people on the buses then. It might have been just scrolling through all the latest ringtones on a 3310, but still it happened. Walkman had been out for like 15 years by that point too.

I was once sat next to a suited man with shit headphones on the tube. Me and two friends sat opposite him started singing along with his music and pointing at him. When the rest of the carriage realised he was listening to Hit Me Baby One More Time in his fancy suit, he turned it off. We had to get off the tube and get the next one we were laughing so much.

I got on a plane and sat on I aisle seat. The woman behind was talking to the man on the other side of the isle as they were together. When the flight safety info started they asked for everyone to listen be quiet. This woman kept on chatting loudly. I turned round and looked at her, never said a word- she said what? You don’t think I’ve heard it before, I’ve flown lots of times. The woman sat on the other side of the isle to me turned round and said

its not all about you

thete were a few sniggers and woman shut up

it was a classic, I shan’t forget 😂

YANBU. Had to stay overnight in a hospital ward with DS 3 last week, and was almost driven insane with TVs/YouTube/games/video calls on full volume. I'd have lost my frigging mind if I'd had to have stayed there another night. It's the parents I get angry with, not the children - they're just thinking this stuff is acceptable due to their selfish, inconsiderate parents.

Yep. I feel like standards are just really low in the UK these days, for pretty much everything

YANBU.

This absolutely boils my piss. It’s now (sadly) the norm that everyone listens to whatever they want at whatever volume they want without a thought for anyone else.

I recently was on a train and a young girl sat down next to me. She started watching a video on full blast loud speaker on phone. I watched everyone’s eyes roll around me.

I very politely said to her “would you mind popping some earphones in” she looked at me and said “you’re weird”.

Some world call it good manners and having consideration for others I snapped back. Then muttered something about her sense of self entitlement. It took me all my strength not to f@ck her phone out of the train window.

So much of this selfishness is related to phones and other devices isn't it? Oh how I wish it had never been invented sometimes. It's just so bloody damaging in so many ways.

YaNBU. Someone was telling me the other day HD was on the bus and asked someone to turn their music on their phone down, he said he was trying to explain that he was autistic and sometimes sound was overwhelming to him. The response? He was spat on and told to fuck off.

I think that people are genuinely becoming more rude and people who tech their kids that their phones are allowed to be on in public at full volume are just ensuring the next generation are just as self centred.

i threw a mint at someone on the train once and stared him dead in the eye.

^

😂

If someone had started a thread on here saying that a mint was thrown at them on a train the response would have been that it was assault and the perpetrator was batshit crazy 😀🤣

Honestly, you need really good noise cancelling headphones now if you’re sensitive to noise. I was on a bus the other week and this guy just shouted into to his phone the whole way. Hell is other people.

Getting older does not make one more cranky, unless there is a reason, such as being sick or debilitated, in pain.

No one likes excess noise, light, traffic, annoyances. Older people may be more likely to speak up because after a particular age one does not care what others may think, being older has it's benefits; rude is rude.

I think that years ago you could tell someone off or threaten them and there were no repercussions - now you would get arrested for threatening behaviour - there would be cctv of your actions on the bus for example.

Attempts to discourage bad behaviour have backfired and no one can do anything about anyone. The yobs win.

Nothing annoys me more than people watching reels on loud on the train. Bring your blooming headphones or don’t watch on public transport.

Same shit, different presentation. There have always been antisocial idiots one way or another. Look for the positives and not just a bunch of things to moan about.

Noise pollution is now the graffiti of yesterday . Also I think people have become more selfish .

I resort to playing Classical music - at the same volume as the offender.

I have genuinely done it a few times although tbf it was only effective on one occasion.

You do get some odd stares though - I suppose if I was playing Drill or diss rap, it would be fine.

It’s the conversations on speaker phone that bother me most. Talking apprentice-style into the end of the phone. Does the other person know that their private conversation is being broadcast to the whole bus? I’d be mortified if that was my voice at top volume.

YANBU. I had to tell two women in their 20s to stop constantly talking throughout a film at the cinema the other day. Meanwhile, several mobile phones lighting up throughout the film. Hell is other people and grown adults should not need to be told this stuff!

This isn't to get at you in particular as you not alone but this is what I don't understand. I have 4 kids, all teens or older now and we never used screens when out. It's not essential. And if you do then use headphones. Or do something silent.