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Well that’s the world buggered then.

157 replies

Mittens67 · 06/11/2024 08:41

Goodbye to any hope of peace and safety for the world, or saving the climate, women’s rights and ending racism.
Poor Ukraine will be the first casualty.
Putin will be breaking out the vodka and caviar today.

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Superworm24 · 06/11/2024 11:57

dottiehens · 06/11/2024 11:16

This type of posts would become very dated soon. Once the world does not come to an end they would be challenged more and more as ridiculous.

Yes. The same happened in 2016, and although he said some crazy stuff the world continued on. I don't think many brits understand US politics. I don't fully understand it but it's far more complicated than here.

SeaBaseAlpha · 06/11/2024 11:57

hopeishere · 06/11/2024 11:43

Currently you need to be born in the USA to run for president. To be fair I think that is a bit of an odd approach these days. Trump might try to change it. Who knows?!

He may try but it would take a constitutional amendment, which then requires ratification of at least 75% of the states, which I think would be pretty difficult (although actually I think that probably is an appropriate amendment in the 21st century)

The bigger concern is the interpretation of Amendment 22 of the Constitution.. it seems pretty clear that a President can only be elected twice, and that's it, but no doubt he will try and say that only applies if they are consecutive..

GreenTuesday · 06/11/2024 11:59

Berlinlover · 06/11/2024 11:13

Stop the handouts hopefully.

How can you say that and call yourself Berlinlover? 😡

Do you have any idea how disconcerted citizens in Berlin are about the real prospect of land invasions of Poland and potentially Germany? They have a deeply traumatic history with Russia. Do you know anything about history?

Imbusytodaysorry · 06/11/2024 12:23

Berlinlover · 06/11/2024 11:13

Stop the handouts hopefully.

Why????

gladpurpledog · 06/11/2024 12:37

Bewareofthisonetoo · 06/11/2024 11:56

Let’s hope

@Bewareofthisonetoo Please explain why you are hoping for this?

RunnerDown · 06/11/2024 12:40

We’ve now got Elon Musk in the mix too. It’s very worrying.
I do think however that Trumps cognitive impairment is now so obvious that he won’t last the full 4 years.
All the people who were involved in trying to bring him to justice through the courts must be feeling pretty worried

TofuTart · 06/11/2024 12:41

Katemax82 · 06/11/2024 10:09

Don't be ridiculous how bad was it last time?

It's his massive tantrum when he lost last time that's most worrying to me.
He's a threat to democracy.

Begsthequestion · 06/11/2024 12:51

As well as Americans I feel bad for Ukraine, which he'll hand over to Putin, and Taiwan, as he's not going to even try to stop China invading.

I worry where Putin will go next.

rewilded · 06/11/2024 12:52

It certainly adds balance with Kier over here.

I am hoping he creates peace which Biden certainly didn't achieve. It has been a complete shitshow worldwide with him at the wheel.

TheNinthLock · 06/11/2024 12:55

SeaBaseAlpha · 06/11/2024 11:09

Off topic but sorry, that's the most Mumsnet typo ever! 😄

Oh, this cheered me up 😁

lechatnoire · 06/11/2024 12:56

Katemax82 · 06/11/2024 10:09

Don't be ridiculous how bad was it last time?

Check out Project 2025 and get back to us.

oakleaffy · 06/11/2024 12:58

Masses of Ukrainian men are paying to escape their Country- ( wealthy ones) to avoid draft
Only the poor remain, who cannot afford bribes and fake medical cards 💳.

The opinion is Zelensky is safe while other people’s sons are sacrificed.

Begsthequestion · 06/11/2024 13:20

oakleaffy · 06/11/2024 12:58

Masses of Ukrainian men are paying to escape their Country- ( wealthy ones) to avoid draft
Only the poor remain, who cannot afford bribes and fake medical cards 💳.

The opinion is Zelensky is safe while other people’s sons are sacrificed.

Source?

oakleaffy · 06/11/2024 13:32

Begsthequestion · 06/11/2024 13:20

Source?

Watch the many you tube videos about it.
Vanloads of Ukrainian men turfed roughly out of smuggler’s vehicles- the fake medical exemptions for $4,000 ( USD )

Zelensky should fight. Not send other people’s sons to fight.
The borders with Romania are patrolled and there is widespread corruption.

Men wanting to join their wives and children in Germany and U.K.

Opentooffers · 06/11/2024 13:33

He can now carry on breaking the law while claiming immunity - great stuff.

gladpurpledog · 06/11/2024 13:35

oakleaffy · 06/11/2024 13:32

Watch the many you tube videos about it.
Vanloads of Ukrainian men turfed roughly out of smuggler’s vehicles- the fake medical exemptions for $4,000 ( USD )

Zelensky should fight. Not send other people’s sons to fight.
The borders with Romania are patrolled and there is widespread corruption.

Men wanting to join their wives and children in Germany and U.K.

Who would be president if he was out fighting do you think? Do you think Starmer or Charles would fight if there was a war in the UK?

gladpurpledog · 06/11/2024 13:37

Funny how @Berlinlover and @Bewareofthisonetoo hasn’t come back to clarify.

oakleaffy · 06/11/2024 13:39

gladpurpledog · 06/11/2024 13:35

Who would be president if he was out fighting do you think? Do you think Starmer or Charles would fight if there was a war in the UK?

Easy to sacrifice other’s sons while strutting around playing the hero.
Reuters too are saying how he’s scratching around for men to fight for his cause- The Ukrainian men don’t want to die for his cause .

Veryoldandtired · 06/11/2024 13:45

The question is more how screwed are we considering that almost all Labour MPs had a go at Donald Trump at some point including Starmer. That would be one awkward congratulations’ phone call… or will it?
Also, Trump’s previous administration worsened relationship with Russia by sanctioning the hell out of it and changing Nuclear treaty. Sooo… I think it’s a bit simplistic to think that Trump’s got Kremlin interests at heart. In fact, I think people watched too many old American movies and believe that the Ruskies are evil when in the actual fact the biggest problem is kind of the elephant in the room…

gladpurpledog · 06/11/2024 15:06

oakleaffy · 06/11/2024 13:39

Easy to sacrifice other’s sons while strutting around playing the hero.
Reuters too are saying how he’s scratching around for men to fight for his cause- The Ukrainian men don’t want to die for his cause .

Maybe you could do his job. He is just strutting around so should be easy peasy.

VivianLea · 06/11/2024 15:59

SeaBaseAlpha · 06/11/2024 11:09

Off topic but sorry, that's the most Mumsnet typo ever! 😄

Haha, it totally is! If anything can save the world, it's a bit of Boden!

Aria999 · 06/11/2024 16:06

Katemax82 · 06/11/2024 10:09

Don't be ridiculous how bad was it last time?

You mean apart from the day an armed mob stormed the capitol and tried to murder the VP for doing his job?

PlumViper · 06/11/2024 16:20

lechatnoire · 06/11/2024 12:56

Check out Project 2025 and get back to us.

Project 2025 represents a transformative initiative with a vision for reshaping policy, technology, and national security landscapes.

why is that bad ?

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 06/11/2024 16:38

Ukraine isn’t black and white.

Neither is Israel/gaza.

The reality is that the only reason why Ukraine and Russia are still at war is because we and the US are so involved. I can’t abide Trump but the truth is that Ukraine has to end somewhere.

The only reason why we don’t want it to is because of Russia and where they’ll go next.