To be so disappointed in people - Trump voters especially

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I feel absolutely stunned that despite all that has been said and done Trump is likely to get the chance to make the world burn a little faster.

I am afraid for a future so full of anger and hate.

Yes! And nothing could be further from the truth.

It’s so inane, it actually offends me.

I work in climate change and trump not believing in climate change just echoes a lot of what is actually happening in countries. They can make the right noises but no one at all is moving fast enough on it. The flood is Spain, we have talked for years that flash flooding will happen. Where were the purpose built defences to mitigate what they saw last week. If we are so concerned about climate change then start making the action don’t just blame trump, this to me just feels like an excuse well trump doesn’t believe in it so we may aswell not do anything .

It's a pity Kamala Harris didn't have the grace to come out and speak to her thousands of supporters waiting for her at Howard University. Content of her character right there.

Oh you're quite funny, so you get to be incapable of reading, comprehending, answering questions and jumping to your own prejudices when it comes to putting the rights of men who identify as trans above women?

But women who point out that you are wrong don't?

I see, this is very typical of believers of your ideology which is not based in reality. You think that refusing to answer straight questions makes you look intelligent when the reality is that it just makes you look like a liar who doesn't think women should have any rights independent from men who claim to 'identify' as women.

I don't think Biden made the decision, his wife did.

That post isn't correct btw

I don't think Trump's win or Harris' defeat were based on a single issue. I found your description of women who don't believe in gender ideology a bit inane, and offensive since you mention it.

Trump does not have obvious cognitive decline and Parkinsons disease. You may not like his opinions, I find a lot of them appalling too, but there is a difference here.
My post is not sneering at all. If you see the other post I wrote recently, you will see that I am not partisan at all, Unfortunately, instead of thinking about the point being made, you have decided to blame me and decide I support the right and Trump. I do not! As I said, the left need to learn to accept their own mistakes and take some responsibility for them.

Anonymous, yeah I get what you mean about the nanny element. Look at women like Marine Le Pen, Giorgia Meloni. Do you feel that a left leaning woman would have a different sort of authority? Or that it's more 'nanny' type views, ie. conservative?

I wonder what happens if we have another pandemic when the probably new health chief believes the US vaccine mandates are akin to Nazi laws.
I mean, pp on here accuse the left of being dramatic but RFK JR takes the cake.

Thank fuck for that. I love the idea that I can leave my house without fear that a gun could be pointed at my head. Thank fuck my children can live and go to school safely 🙏

This intent in this comment from you is pretty clear:
This sounds like you prefer gender ideology over sex based spaces? Do you mean you are happy with men in women's sports?

A question for you: Are you happy that rights for lesbians (including protection against discrimination at work) will be rolled back and support removed under Trump's administration?

That's all fair enough, but the US is not unique. Food prices have doubled in the UK (and most other countries too) in the last couple of years. I agree that the Dems ought to have able to find a better candidate, sooner, though. And that the 'diversity' prattle put a lot of people off.

If you know what communism is, how on earth can you call the current Labour government communist? Have they taken all means of production into state hands? Are there no private businesses any more? Have Labour got rid of elections? Is the UK now a totalitarian state?

As for your claim that you are a very well rounded privately educated young woman. As they say, self praise is no recommendation. At least your posts shatter the myth about the benefits/value of private education. Your parents should ask for their money back.

Your views on the 'undeserving' poor are positively Victorian for such a young woman. I would expect young people to be more compassionate and idealistic.

It's not that I don't think left-leaning women couldn't do a great job as PM - I definitely think they could - but there seems to be some kind of collective mental block against that happening, except in Scandinavia and New Zealand, but the demographics are quite different there anyway. I do think it's the nanny thing tbh! I think it appeals to something in white male voters. My dad adored Theresa May and Thatcher!

And just to add, in relation to wanting to end the death and destruction, in relation to Ukraine, Trump said he wants to end the conflict. We have been told two versions of what has been going on in relation to the conflict. One side says keep the conflict going because it is all about democracy and freedom and getting a good deal for Ukraine. Whereas a senator in the US has recently said the driver for the US to keep supporting the war was to do with the US gaining indirect control the trillions worth of minerals in Ukraine, and in relation to Crimea we know that it is of huge strategic value in terms of its sea access and so wanting indirect control of that too, nothing to do with helping Ukraine and that in fact Ukraine was being sold down the river. Who do we believe?

It's just about point-scoring tbh. It's not real 'debate'.

Yes, listen, but also realise that the Trump voters comprise of separate groups of people, some of whom might have voted for Harris in different circumstances. Lumping all Trump voters together as one racist, sexist, fascist mass of thuggish dumbos does absolutely nothing except entrench their determination to vote against the Democrats.

A number of the votes ‘for’ Trump will actually have been against Harris/the Dems.

Hitler "Nazified" all political and social institutions, abolished the Weimar Republic system, dissolved the parliament, banned all other political parties and groups, and suppressed dissidents and members of these political parties. He announced the integration of the Nazi Party and Germany within a year of becoming German Chancellor, and began a one-party dictatorship. I don’t see how Trump can do all this.

I agree that we should learn lessons from history, but I think the biggest lesson now is that the United States should not be attempted by isolationism because the new axis of evil poses the greatest threat to the rest of the world, and it's dangerous to turn a blind eye.

Again, I do think they, especially Xi Jinping, are more like Hitler than Trump, and if we compare his totalitarian rule and expansionist ambitions to Hitler’s behavior, including nationalist brainwashing based on a “shameful” modern history, persecution of minorities and dissidents, and threats against neighboring countries, the similarities are striking.

It's a question.. which seems to cause much angst. Not sure why

I think Yvette Cooper has the headmistressy vibe in spades, it’s not an exclusively right wing trait.

I so agree with both of you. I think the assassination attempt didn't help Democrats either.

Communism is based on the ideas of Marx. What communism means varies depending on how Marx was interpreted, and how revisionist the interpretations are. Whether purges or totalitarianism is required is up for debate. Also, Marx left out huge gaps to be filled eg foreign trade practice.

Get over yourself. Donald didn't win this Kamala lost it . She was too weak a candidate.

Cool. Look forward to your answer to my lesbian question!

True. Most people here are honest enough to realise people didn't vote for Starmer, but against Sunak. Sadly, things are unchangingly hideous regardless.