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Worried about our house and socialising

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kva · 05/11/2024 14:32

Hi everyone,

I’m feeling a bit anxious about how our home might impact both our daughter’s and our own social life as she starts reception next year. I'd love to host playdates and invite people over, but I’m embarrassed about the state of our house – it’s in serious need of some TLC. The conservatory is falling apart and needs a good clean, the kitchen is outdated, the garden is overgrown, and a few doors don’t close properly or are broken. It just doesn’t feel like a space we’d be comfortable hosting in right now.

We recently decided to put our savings this year into overpaying the mortgage, so there isn’t much left for home improvements. Unfortunately, we can’t tackle big DIY projects either, as we both work full-time and don’t have family nearby to help out.

I’m really worried that not being able to host could affect our ability to build friendships, both for our daughter and for us. We don’t want her to miss out on forming those early connections with her new classmates, and we’d love to socialize more with other parents too – it just feels challenging with the house as it is.

Has anyone been in a similar situation? I’d love advice on how to make our home more inviting on a budget, or ideas on encouraging socializing outside the home. Any reassurance or tips would be so appreciated!

P.S. We live in an area where it seems like most families buy homes for over £1m (ours is much less) and borrow to do major renovations before hosting. Inviting people over to our place, as it is, feels a bit intimidating!

Thank you so much in advance!

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Mandylovescandy · 05/11/2024 18:41

I think playdates might not happen that much anyway or maybe that's just us? But I find everyone is so busy with work, weekend classes or birthday parties that we rarely have a playdate and in the summer we usually meet up at the park anyway. I have one mum friend whose house I have never been to despite us hosting several playdates - assume she is embarrassed by the state of it or has some other reason not to hostand it doesn't bother me. I don't think it will impact friendships

Namechange83649 · 05/11/2024 18:43

jwnib · 05/11/2024 14:43

Why are you overpaying the mortgage? Sorry that probably sounds like a stupid question, but if you're self conscious about your house wouldn't it make more sense to spend some money on it now to get it to a state you're happy with? The way I see it, these are the years we are most cash strapped, when we are building a life for our children, now is not the time to be overpaying the mortgage. I could pay loads down and be mortgage free when the kids have moved out, but I have kids NOW, I want money as a family now.

To answer this - we are prioritising paying off our mortgage over home improvements so that by the time the DC are mid-teens we should be mortgage-free. We will then have more money to help them out with university and/or anything else in life. The cost of living is only going to get higher and higher.

We still have some disposable income for extra-curriculars, days out, holidays etc, just not enough for big house projects!

KeyWorker · 05/11/2024 18:47

I think you shouldn’t over think it, just have people over. Prop the doors that don’t close properly open with a door stop, your guests will never know they don’t close. Dated kitchens look fine if they are clean and not cluttered. Make sure the table and sideboards are clear of additional clutter and it makes a real difference. Start trimming back the overgrown garden a little bit each weekend. It’s also fine to say to your guests that the house is a project or a work in progress, just don’t overly apologise for it. Be confident and proud of your home even if it’s now hop you want it to be.

Maybe consider stopping the overpayment for a few months to build up some savings to start some renovations. I understand why you’d opt for overpayments but it’s got to balanced against your ability to live life now. By overpaying you may be mortgage free sooner but may have missed the opportunity for your DD to have friends round, host dinner parties and build new friendships etc.

Fridgemanageress · 05/11/2024 18:48

It’s surprising how many people’s houses aren’t like new builds.

but the first thing you will hear about other peoples houses are - is when they are dirty -

clean houses, clean furniture and clean crockery is a must.

Just keep your house clean and be proud of what you own - because one day you may do it up, although most people after 18 months never do it up til they sell

kva · 05/11/2024 18:52

Figsonit · 05/11/2024 17:36

I don't understand why you are overpaying your mortgage when your house is in a condition that makes you ashamed. You say maintaining it and decorating won't improve its value (not sure I agree), but why is that the ony consideration? What about quality of life and enjoying your home that doesn't have a falling apart conservatory?

It's okay to spend money you have repaintng some rooms. You say it's holding you back from inviting people over, you have the money to change that but won't.

It's not a matter of opinion. The full reno that would make a sparkling insta house will not bring a house value high enough to justify the cost. Long gone days when anyone could buy a property, refurbish, sell and make some profits on it. Nowadays people do it just for themselves.

I already replied earlier that we don't really use conservatory or the garden, so we are fairly comfortable living in the house.

From my side, I don't understand how not to strive to overpay a mortgage. A simple spreadsheet showing how much you would be paying to the bank if you don't overpay may change your opinion?

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kva · 05/11/2024 18:55

V0xPopuli · 05/11/2024 17:45

There's a lot you can do.

It can't be that bad if you are happy to live with it like that in favour of overpaying your mortgage?

If the conservatory is dire, close that off and don't have people in there.

A dated kitchen isn't an issue just make sure its sparkling clean and tidy. Is there anything you can repaint to give it a fresh look?

Its a bit odd to buy something in SUCH a bad state if you haven't the money spare to make it liveable. Why are you pouring so much into overpayments?

Nope. As I posted earlier we are actually fine and comfortable living in the house as it is. (As we don't really use the conservatory and the garden).

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kva · 05/11/2024 18:56

Figsonit · 05/11/2024 17:47

You justify spending no money on maintenance by saying fully renovated houses on your road only sell for the same as unrenovated ones. So why did you buy one that needs so much work instead of a renovated one, for the same price?

I am sorry but this is ridiculous. You don't choose from several houses on a street - you buy a suitable one that is on the market.

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kva · 05/11/2024 18:58

Plum02 · 05/11/2024 17:51

Can you focus on just making one room nice? You don’t need to give people a tour of your house, if you have a nice front room you can take people straight into there. Tell them to take a seat and you’ll bring in some drinks and snacks.

That probably just means spending a weekend giving it a deep clean - and maybe a lick of paint if it needs it.

Then you can always move onto other spaces bit by bit, one room at a time.

And as others have suggested if it makes you feel better you could even say to people you’re having work done so it’s a bit of a tip to explain why they haven’t been taken into the kitchen / the rest of the house.

Really love the idea, thank you.

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WonderingWanda · 05/11/2024 18:59

I cleaned my conservatory. Get some hg window cleaner. A long extending pole and if you have a hose even better. If not do it before rain is due.

Clearing up a garden doesn't need much other than a bit of hard graft either.

People like warm, clean welcoming homes. Bake a nice cake, organise some craft for the kids etc and don't be fooled into thinking you need a fancy house for people to like you.

kva · 05/11/2024 19:01

Zoflorabore · 05/11/2024 17:53

Another one who is gobsmacked that you’re pouring every spare penny into over paying the mortgage on a house that needs updating/decorating/jobs doing when you’re living there day in day out and not even enjoying it. It baffles me!

i have been to a huge range of houses over the years of having kids and the only one that has ever stuck out was one that was filthy dirty and I hated every minute being there. Everyone else was fine, some big, some small. I don’t care about things like kitchens etc but as long as your home is clean and you’re welcoming and have Yorkshire teabags I’m happy.

seriously though op you’ve got time to sort out what you can. Don’t do it for anyone else though, do it for yourselves.

I get it. People do prefer spending money on a reno instead of making a simple spreadsheet to see how much you'll pay to the bank if you don't overpay in all these years. Who cares, eh?

And our house is not filthy - the conservatory is totally run down, but we don't use it.

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Davros · 05/11/2024 19:02

OP, I think you're the judgmental one here

kva · 05/11/2024 19:04

LBFseBrom · 05/11/2024 18:06

Evan and Poffy, the op did not say her home was not clean, just the outside of the conservatory needs specialised cleaning.

Thank you! Yes!
Don't get all the comments about filthy home, we actually have a cleaner every couple of weeks (as absolutely no energy to clean ourselves)

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Heresoneimadearlier · 05/11/2024 19:08

kva · 05/11/2024 18:52

It's not a matter of opinion. The full reno that would make a sparkling insta house will not bring a house value high enough to justify the cost. Long gone days when anyone could buy a property, refurbish, sell and make some profits on it. Nowadays people do it just for themselves.

I already replied earlier that we don't really use conservatory or the garden, so we are fairly comfortable living in the house.

From my side, I don't understand how not to strive to overpay a mortgage. A simple spreadsheet showing how much you would be paying to the bank if you don't overpay may change your opinion?

A previous poster asked you why you didn’t buy a fully renovated house in your area as you said there is no price difference, why did you pay the same for a run down house that needs a full renovation and maintenance? Sounds like you have made a bad financial decision and your house sounds a false economy, do you really think your house in the state it is in is the same value as a fully renovated well maintained house in your road?

kva · 05/11/2024 19:11

Calamitousness · 05/11/2024 18:32

I wouldn’t be overpaying my mortgage. Your house sounds by your own words truly quite awful and in need of repair and decor. Honestly if it was just outdated but clean then I’d say fine but it sounds way beyond that. And being honest I wouldn’t want to visit your home as it sounds. Meet outside the home till it’s sorted. I’m sure others will say they wouldn’t mind but I really would. Again if things weren’t in disrepair or dirty beyond your scope then I’d say fine but it’s not that. Funnel your money into a lovely welcoming home first. Then overpay.

You would not visit a house with a dirty conservatory roof and an overgrown garden? Good luck to you in life, you sound like an awfully nice and non- judjmental person!

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kva · 05/11/2024 19:13

Iworkatcloud9 · 05/11/2024 18:36

I have the exact opposite problem. We recently renovated our house and is rather on the luxury side. We have play dates at our house but never invited to anyone else’s, although my daughter is invited to birthday party’s (not in homes) and trips to cinema etc. I come from a very humble background, my own parents house is tiny in a not so nice part of a city, which people know, I’m certainly not polished so don’t give off snob vibes, but fear other people think their house will be disappointing to us. We honestly don’t care, we just want to socialise with parents of our daughters friends, so please invite people over, if they are nice and genuine they won’t care what your house is like.

Do you think it's all because the house reno? Do other people invite each other home? As some posters say in some areas they mostly prefer an outside play, a park etc

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kva · 05/11/2024 19:17

Namechange83649 · 05/11/2024 18:43

To answer this - we are prioritising paying off our mortgage over home improvements so that by the time the DC are mid-teens we should be mortgage-free. We will then have more money to help them out with university and/or anything else in life. The cost of living is only going to get higher and higher.

We still have some disposable income for extra-curriculars, days out, holidays etc, just not enough for big house projects!

I totally get this and this is our approach too. I don't get how people do not prioritise mortgage overpayment, savings, etc with the current economy. Esp when some need to borrow extra to renovate their home to give it some glam.

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Stretchedresources · 05/11/2024 19:17

DS never had a play date as his sister has destroyed the house and I work PT. He's always had masses of friends and invites. Most parents don't do it on a tit for tat basis.

MissBattleaxe · 05/11/2024 19:17

One of the happiest houses I took my kids to when they were young was a messy rental that was full of toys, balloons and food and mess and the kids had a great time and nobody judged because the kids had a great time. Kids don't enjoy themselves as much if a house is like a museum. Get the living room and one toilet together and the rest is out of bounds.

MissBattleaxe · 05/11/2024 19:20

Also you can always meet up at soft play and say you're having renovations done. Kids don't care and parents are happy if their kids come home happy and tired.

kva · 05/11/2024 19:23

Heresoneimadearlier · 05/11/2024 19:08

A previous poster asked you why you didn’t buy a fully renovated house in your area as you said there is no price difference, why did you pay the same for a run down house that needs a full renovation and maintenance? Sounds like you have made a bad financial decision and your house sounds a false economy, do you really think your house in the state it is in is the same value as a fully renovated well maintained house in your road?

This is so hilarious to read as I realise how much people don't know about property. Please get 2-3 builders quotes on the current full reno costs then have a look at the houses value on your street. You'll be surprised.

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TwigletsAndRadishes · 05/11/2024 19:32

We cleaned our conservatory with a Karcher jet wash and one of those soft brush attachments for car cleaning. You do need to be careful around the seals and joints, don't over-blast it, but it worked fantastically well. Then we washed the inside down with a solution of Flash and wiped all the mildew off with a mildew remover spray. It looked brand new afterwards.

Heresoneimadearlier · 05/11/2024 19:39

kva · 05/11/2024 19:23

This is so hilarious to read as I realise how much people don't know about property. Please get 2-3 builders quotes on the current full reno costs then have a look at the houses value on your street. You'll be surprised.

I’ve probably bought, renovated and sold more houses than you have had hot dinners, DH is a builder thanks very much and I work in a joinery so I now a fair bit about property. You still haven’t answered the question though, why did you buy such a run down property when the fully renovated ones cost the same?

Mumof2girls2121 · 05/11/2024 19:44

Cut your grass, frenchic paint the kitchen, paint it all nice and white. Keep it clean.

PhilsMajicHat · 05/11/2024 19:51

One of my friends lives in a beautil big house that they fully renovated when they moved in. I live in a tiny house with a half renovated kitchen, some rooms don’t have doors, and some rooms don’t have carpet (long story why we have stopped for the time being). I still invite her round, my house is clean and tidy and warm, I’m not embarrassed and she doesn’t recoil in horror on the doorstep and refuse to come round.

honestly, people won’t care

Iworkatcloud9 · 05/11/2024 19:57

kva · 05/11/2024 19:13

Do you think it's all because the house reno? Do other people invite each other home? As some posters say in some areas they mostly prefer an outside play, a park etc

I don’t know, my daughter gets invited to parties, but just not houses, and she tells me other girls have gone to other houses for sleepovers and play dates… it’s bizarre, we really don’t judge the state of houses but do judge hospitality not being reciprocated, even if it means just my daughter goes that’s fine, it’s her I feel for.