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DH complaining about look after kids

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Mellowblue · 04/11/2024 23:02

DH complaining about looking after kids.

I am a SAHM with 3 children in primary school. I have recently joined a few evening classes / clubs for the sake of my sanity and to keep my brain from turning into mush.
I am out two nights a week: 6 till 8 one night and 6 till 9 another night.

DH has become very resentful about me being away from home for these two nights because he needs to spend the evenings looking after the children.

Although, I can see his point, he still has 3 days a week when I am home and I don’t think 2 evenings for myself is a particularly big imposition on him. I am taking these courses with friends , so it’s not possible to them during the day.

OP posts:
the7Vabo · 07/11/2024 06:15

Thisandthat999 · 06/11/2024 23:19

Can’t believe some women on here!
You are allowed two evenings a week to pursue a hobby or whatever.
Your husband can cope for two nights a week!
If he wants two nights to do something for him, then you still have 3 nights together for family stuff together.
Ignore people saying you’re out of order. You’re not!
As long as you both have time to do a hobby/activity in the week there is no problem!

Have you read any of it. He’s not “doing something for him”, he’s working! If he was “doing something for him” it would break different. The detail matters.

the7Vabo · 07/11/2024 06:29

kkloo · 07/11/2024 02:45

You can't just make up statistics to win an argument 😂😂

There's been many posts on here also over the years about being married to men who are married to their jobs and are workaholics and the reason why it causes issues in many of the cases is because they don't actually have to work the hours that they do.

Maintaining 5 people financially is a huge amount of pressure. It’s a gross assumption to jump to workaholic. It’s mightn’t be 99% but working extra hours isn’t sone kind of luxury/hobby for most people.

Being a SAHM of school aged children isn’t comparable. That’s not saying it doesn’t have drawbacks, or that it might work well for the family unit etc.

The OP has significant time while the kids are at school but she doesn’t contribute financially at all. All of that burden rests on her husband. So yes, she needs to support the breadwinner, people cannot live on air.

Whatwillbreaknext · 07/11/2024 07:12

RecklessGoddess · 06/11/2024 21:03

Exactly this!! 👆 👆

I'd imagine he'd cope just fine as a single Dad. Clearly he does his fair share, he could use the money saved not supporting a second adult to cover breakfast and after school clubs. From the information shared, he would likely have the DC 50/50. The OP in that situation however will clearly struggle with 'burnout' when she needs to fit working into her life. So it is in her interest to make changes so she doesn't lose the lifestyle she has become accustomed to.

redskydarknight · 07/11/2024 07:45

CyanMaker · 06/11/2024 23:54

The burnout would be from not having a social life.

I think you need to look up the meaning of burnout.

And there is nothing stopping OP having a social life during the day.

redskydarknight · 07/11/2024 07:49

kkloo · 06/11/2024 23:48

Maybe she can't do anything she wants to do during the day. None of the hobbies I do are on during the day.

And for all we know the husband could love his job and be devoting every evening to it because he wants to, not because he has to.

I find it fairly hard to believe that there is nothing on during the day that OP might like to do (as a person who works full time, I've found that there is way more things organised during the day than in the evenings).

If the main motivation is socialising with friends who are not free then, then she could invite them to her house, go out later in the evening when the children are in bed/ready for bed, or meet them at the weekend.

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 07/11/2024 08:11

@kkloo If women aren't happy with their husband's being "workaholics", maybe they should make more of an effort to share the financial burden of their families!

Sennelier1 · 07/11/2024 08:55

I was a SAHMom with two children, so yes I understand the need to carve out some me-time. Adding that my husband never was home before 8 p.m. so not possible to do anything for myself in the evening but I started doing hobbies during the school hours of the children 😊 Much later when my children were in their teens I started language courses in the evening - I welcomed them home from school, prepared dinner for them and for DH - had an early meal myself and by 6 p.m. went to my class 😊

BlueFlowers5 · 07/11/2024 09:12

OP if your MH is affected by being with no time doing outside things if you stop, what will he do if you end up unwell?

I think your DH is unreasonable..

redskydarknight · 07/11/2024 09:18

BlueFlowers5 · 07/11/2024 09:12

OP if your MH is affected by being with no time doing outside things if you stop, what will he do if you end up unwell?

I think your DH is unreasonable..

And if DH burns out, what will OP do?

BalletCat · 07/11/2024 09:46

BlueFlowers5 · 07/11/2024 09:12

OP if your MH is affected by being with no time doing outside things if you stop, what will he do if you end up unwell?

I think your DH is unreasonable..

End up unwell!? Bloody hell 🙄

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 07/11/2024 09:50

@BalletCat Far more likely that the husband is going to end up upwell. But he's a man and must be solely responsible for paying all of the bills and supporting a large family so we won't worry ourselves about that.
A wife's hobbies are of paramount importance.

TruthAndTrust · 07/11/2024 10:41

I can see his point. Does he get anytime to do things on his own?

Are you kids particularly had to get to sleep? Do you get everything ready?

the7Vabo · 07/11/2024 13:15

BlueFlowers5 · 07/11/2024 09:12

OP if your MH is affected by being with no time doing outside things if you stop, what will he do if you end up unwell?

I think your DH is unreasonable..

There is no reason the OP should “end up unwell” because she can’t meet friends/do a course two weeknights.

Her husband is involved and supportive to their family. He hasn’t asked her never to leave the house! He’s said specifically going out two weeknights puts him under pressure work wise.

The biggest risk in their dynamic is him losing the job given he’s their only source of income.

In sure you can tell but I find it irritating how MN posters often undervalue paid work. This guy has assumed to be a workaholic or another person suggested it’s his fault as his can’t manage his workload during the working day.

This woman basically looks after her kids part-time but is seen by some as more at risk of burnout as a man who works full time plus overtime.

BalletCat · 07/11/2024 13:59

the7Vabo · 07/11/2024 13:15

There is no reason the OP should “end up unwell” because she can’t meet friends/do a course two weeknights.

Her husband is involved and supportive to their family. He hasn’t asked her never to leave the house! He’s said specifically going out two weeknights puts him under pressure work wise.

The biggest risk in their dynamic is him losing the job given he’s their only source of income.

In sure you can tell but I find it irritating how MN posters often undervalue paid work. This guy has assumed to be a workaholic or another person suggested it’s his fault as his can’t manage his workload during the working day.

This woman basically looks after her kids part-time but is seen by some as more at risk of burnout as a man who works full time plus overtime.

Couldnt agree more. It's meddening the way these women witter on about "Big Important Jobs" and the "Big Man" when he is the one working his ass off to keep them all and provide the OP with her current lifestyle and the OP sounds quite ungrateful on her approach.

Posters that think housework takes all day, looking after school aged children is difficult because they might have to come home sick!?and the OP is at risk of burn out blow my mind. The ones saying fuck your husband do what you like he'll get used to it blow my mind even more. This isn't what equality looks like.

PerkyQuoter · 07/11/2024 15:34

What’s the betting that OP doesn’t share this thread with her husband…

it’s clear to me that her 30 hours a week to herself plus an additional 5 hours in the evenings is excessive and unfair.

With all the kids in school you should want o work and contribute to the running of the household. You might even have enough for a cleaner once a week.

coffeesaveslives · 07/11/2024 15:51

BlueFlowers5 · 07/11/2024 09:12

OP if your MH is affected by being with no time doing outside things if you stop, what will he do if you end up unwell?

I think your DH is unreasonable..

Unwell? She has thirty hours a week to do whatever the fuck she wants Hmm

the7Vabo · 07/11/2024 16:28

PerkyQuoter · 07/11/2024 15:34

What’s the betting that OP doesn’t share this thread with her husband…

it’s clear to me that her 30 hours a week to herself plus an additional 5 hours in the evenings is excessive and unfair.

With all the kids in school you should want o work and contribute to the running of the household. You might even have enough for a cleaner once a week.

I don’t have an issue with women who chose not to work. What I struggle with is the claim that it’s the “hardest job in the world”. Yes, it can be challenging no doubt, but harder than being a CEO, an ambulance driver, a partner in a law firm? I can’t see it.

Aria999 · 07/11/2024 17:36

I agree @the7Vabo especially if you have school or childcare to give you a break during the day.

Having given up a fairly stressful job in order to stay at home with the kids I sure know which I found easier (and that was before they went to school full time).

Though to be fair if I was as bad at my paid job as I am at housework I would have been fired for sure 😁

CyanMaker · 07/11/2024 17:45

redskydarknight · 07/11/2024 07:45

I think you need to look up the meaning of burnout.

And there is nothing stopping OP having a social life during the day.

You have your opinion and I have mine.

laraitopbanana · 07/11/2024 18:15

SophiaBlake · 06/11/2024 20:20

To the lady doing two evening classes a week, keep at it! Looking after the house, preparing 3 children for school and then picking them up is a draining job and you deserve at least 2 evenings a week off. Tell you DH to shut up, get on with it and stop being an entitled twat. (Ignore those telling you you should work round everyone else in your family and do classes during the day - why should you always work round everyone else? The fact that people were even talking about whether your evening classes were 'worthy' enough to be worth doing tells you all you need to know about what they think women's role should be - they'd never query whether a man 'needed' to go the football.) Take this opportunity to show your DH that you're not going to be treated like his servant who works round him all the time, pandering to his every whim. If you give in now, you'll have a miserable life in the future.

That!

why should she do constantly do things around the kids as if there were no dad? Certainly not teaching her boys(?) reciprocity or her girls(?) to be good mums AND healthy human beings.

Also if they are so big, they aren’t a bother for her. Why are they a bother to him? 2 scales here.

laraitopbanana · 07/11/2024 18:23

the7Vabo · 07/11/2024 16:28

I don’t have an issue with women who chose not to work. What I struggle with is the claim that it’s the “hardest job in the world”. Yes, it can be challenging no doubt, but harder than being a CEO, an ambulance driver, a partner in a law firm? I can’t see it.

Well, yes it is.

In my opinion.

But then if your child is fairly easy, as in he is 40 and live in your basement, I guess no it isn’t that difficult anymore.

🤣🤣🤣 Just kidding.

More seriously. Mums raise their bubs so they can have great lives. CEO hire someone for a job and an amount of time in exchange of pay. If you can’t see the difference well 🤷🏼‍♀️

laraitopbanana · 07/11/2024 18:26

Mind you CEO of starts up usually compare their company as a newborn. They are working tirelessly for years before babe grow enough so that they can hire someone and rest a bit.

I don’t see noone, going and tell them to go and get another job as if they haven’t done enough 🫣 lazy them!!! You finished one, go do something else before someone sees you enjoying what you have done and refill 🤯

the7Vabo · 07/11/2024 18:36

laraitopbanana · 07/11/2024 18:23

Well, yes it is.

In my opinion.

But then if your child is fairly easy, as in he is 40 and live in your basement, I guess no it isn’t that difficult anymore.

🤣🤣🤣 Just kidding.

More seriously. Mums raise their bubs so they can have great lives. CEO hire someone for a job and an amount of time in exchange of pay. If you can’t see the difference well 🤷🏼‍♀️

A CEO does not “just hire someone for a job”, he has responsibilities to shareholders, regulators, customers etc. He can’t decide he’s having a bad day so he’ll do the ironing later.

A nurse has her patients, doctors, hospital managers etc.

A bus driver has to transport people on time etc.

A nursery worker has multiple small children to look after.

We all know the cost to society when any of these people make mistakes.

Having primary school children, keeping the house clean, preparing food, picks up and homework isn’t harder than any of those.

All mums and dads for that matter raise their children regardless of whether they work.
Its not as if SAHMs only raise children, and the rest of the children run the streets naked and starving. All parents raise their children it’s not something exclusive to SAHMs.

A child in school isn’t being looked after by their mother during school in any case.

Parents in general all aim to raise their children to have good lives.

I think SAHM is a perfectly valid life choice but let’s not make it out to be something it’s not.

the7Vabo · 07/11/2024 18:39

laraitopbanana · 07/11/2024 18:26

Mind you CEO of starts up usually compare their company as a newborn. They are working tirelessly for years before babe grow enough so that they can hire someone and rest a bit.

I don’t see noone, going and tell them to go and get another job as if they haven’t done enough 🫣 lazy them!!! You finished one, go do something else before someone sees you enjoying what you have done and refill 🤯

What is the comparison here? That SAHM should be allowed time off because they once had a newborn??!

Can I then tell my boss I worked 5 years ago so he can’t expect any work this year. Of course I can’t as I need the money! A SAHM can as someone else is provided said money.

laraitopbanana · 07/11/2024 19:09

the7Vabo · 07/11/2024 18:36

A CEO does not “just hire someone for a job”, he has responsibilities to shareholders, regulators, customers etc. He can’t decide he’s having a bad day so he’ll do the ironing later.

A nurse has her patients, doctors, hospital managers etc.

A bus driver has to transport people on time etc.

A nursery worker has multiple small children to look after.

We all know the cost to society when any of these people make mistakes.

Having primary school children, keeping the house clean, preparing food, picks up and homework isn’t harder than any of those.

All mums and dads for that matter raise their children regardless of whether they work.
Its not as if SAHMs only raise children, and the rest of the children run the streets naked and starving. All parents raise their children it’s not something exclusive to SAHMs.

A child in school isn’t being looked after by their mother during school in any case.

Parents in general all aim to raise their children to have good lives.

I think SAHM is a perfectly valid life choice but let’s not make it out to be something it’s not.

I think that what comes out from this post is more a task-money relationship. So basically it doesn’t sound like you value a task except if paid for it.

sahm don’t usually also bring money in. Therefore, the tasks that she does all day aren’t important. Other women work (bring money) and raise their children. The later is the valuable one, the first is just not enough work for you apparently.

we will just have to agree to disagree.