imane khelif has been allegedly confirmed to be a man.

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A leaked French medical report from 2023 has confirmed that Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is male.

Top endocrinologists found that Khelif has XY chromosomes, no uterus, internal testicles, and a "micropenis."

The report was drafted in June of 2023 via a collaboration between the Kremlin-Bicêtre hospital in Paris, France, and the Mohamed Lamine Debaghine hospital in Algiers, Algeria. Drafted by expert endocrinologists Soumaya Fedala and Jacques Young, the report reveals that Khelif is impacted by 5-alpha reductase deficiency, a disorder of sexual development that is only found in biological males.

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He might have been brought up pre puberty believing he is female, but for all we know, that could have gone out the window when puberty happened and it became clear that he isn't.

Of course not all Muslim women wear headscarves. Nobody is suggesting they do.

But lots of small things add up. Women have been forced to be detectives due to the misogynist bias of IOC, the media, and the world.

You're wrong about the behaviour of male people though. Males who are ok with abusing women are often ok with being outrageously blatant about it. And they very often get away with it because of the aforementioned misogynist bias. Trump is an extreme example of this. People are still going to vote for him. IK put female boxers in mortal danger. But to true believers in trans ideology even that doesn't exclude him from being a special male whose feelings are more important than women's safety.

The point is IK can behave how he like to those who believe deeply in trans ideology. It's all about faith, innit.

Was he though?
He was scouted playing football in the street with other boys apparently.
I live close to several areas with large Muslim populations, I have seen boys playing football in the street etc quite a few times, never seen a girl with them.
Unless of course Algeria is a beacon of equality I very much doubt girls play out in the street with a load of boys either.

....I mean, how long did Wayne Cousins work for the police with the nickname "The Rapist"? Abusive men can often do what the fuck they want with little standing in their way. Algeria is not a more liberal or less misogynist society than the UK.

Edit not saying IK is as bad as WC, just pointing out extreme examples of abuse in plain sight which you'd think would be a bad idea and yet somehow doesn't prevent abusers from continuing to partake in life and hold important positions

if being carried by unrelated men wasn't considered appropriate in Algeria I am sure they wouldn't do that either. It would be pretty stupid given the controversy don't you think?

It was clear that he and his team didn't give a fuck about optics. The whole thing was blatantly triumphant and two fingers up.

There is footage of Khelif being patted on the breast area of Khelif's chest by Khelif's coach while Khelif was in the ring during the Olympics.

Nothing has ever been said about that. If this coach feels such freedom to sexually assault an athlete in their charge by touching their breast area in a celebratory pat, surely something will have been done?

Two fingers yes.

Also probably something of a feeling that IK deserves women's stuff as a consolation prize for the misfortune of the DSD. I think that's behind a lot of the support.

Some men are probably appalled at the idea of a micropenis and are rejecting them from their idea of manhood, whilst simultaneously feeling empathy for the owner because they know they are a man really.

More stupid than refusing to release test results that would end the controversy once and for all if he were female?

I love this circular logic. "Khelif is a woman so they are carrying Khelif like a man because they wouldn't be stupid enough to carry a man like a man because he is a woman."

Your side of the debate has made it completely safe for them to do stupid things. You've abandoned and attempt to punish any demonstration of truth and proof and continually deny reality by assertion. That's why they feel so safe in being so stupid. They are. Your Newspeak, doublethink and sheer dishonesty have made it very safe indeed. Unlike the women Khelif fought.

"Not all Muslim women wear a headscarf🙄 if being carried by unrelated men wasn't considered appropriate in Algeria I am sure they wouldn't do that either. It would be pretty stupid given the controversy don't you think?"

The discussion on head scarf is actually irrelevant. The discussion of Khelif wearing shorts or any other types of clothing is not potentially going to be convincing.

This athlete has failed two sex tests which led to being banned by three international boxing organisation matches. At the IBC press conference, Dr. Ioannis Filippatos, a OBGYN and surgeon confirmed those tests. A reputable sports reporter from the USA has seen the tests and confirmed their conclusions publicly.

Khelif sought additional testing from Kremlin-Bicêtre in Paris and withdrew their appeal on those findings. This has been reported by Georges Carzola, one of Khelif's coaches, and now by a reporter Djaffar Air Aoudia. Both Carzola and Aoudia have also then reported that an Algerian specialist was monitoring Khelif's testosterone suppression.

NO female athlete needs to suppress their naturally occurring testosterone.

This discussion about headscarves is sparple.

Why do you think that any male person should be boxing a female athlete unless the female boxer has specifically agreed to box male boxers? Or do you agree that Khelif should not have been in the female event in the Olympics, but you just want to censure what is said by others?

I believe Khelif goes by "she/her" not "they" @wombat15 - fine by me what pronouns you want to use, but seems surprising given your die-hard genderist beliefs?

Be very careful of calling Khelif ‘trans’ - it a criminal offence in Algeria punishable by a large fine and up to 3 years in prison. He has very clearly stated that he is not trans.

He is, however, deluded if - despite the medical reports to the contrary (and the lived experience of a male puberty) - he retains any belief that he is a woman.

Why are you calling Khelif they?

I’m not denying that he is biologically, physically male. But how easy do you think it would be, given that he has been brought up female and thinking he is female, to suddenly start living as a man?

Personally I'd start feeling suspicious, as would my mother, when my voice broke.

I’m not denying that he is biologically, physically male. But how easy do you think it would be, given that he has been brought up female and thinking he is female, to suddenly start living as a man?

Do you honestly think he's only just found out?

He seems to do it (living as a man) pretty easily watching his training videos and the way he interacts with his coaching team.

Come on… he’s NOT been brought up as female! He and his family knew from puberty at the latest and it’s very clear that he has been socialised differently to other ‘women’. It’s there on his timeline and observable in the interactions broadcast to the world with his coaching team. The disingenuousness of this line if argument is risible.

I absolutely feel for him and his family that discovering the DSD when he was a pre-teen and having it confirmed in recent tests will have been hard and counselling should have been available. I appreciate that their hopes of benefiting from the cash cow of a women’s boxing career - that hinged on his covering this up - will have hugely impacted the material comfort of his poor, rural Algerian family.

However, my sympathy stops there and my antipathy begins from the moment when he chose to step over the ropes into a ring and beat the shit out of successive female competitors, risking their lives along with their medal hopes.

But how easy do you think it would be, given that he has been brought up female and thinking he is female, to suddenly start living as a man?

Any images and footage I've seen of him, how he dresses and moves through the world, show someone who has been at ease with being male for an extremely long time.

He seems to do it just fine.

I’m not denying that he is biologically, physically male. But how easy do you think it would be, given that he has been brought up female and thinking he is female, to suddenly start living as a man

How is this in any way related to the Olympics and boxing against women?

I have no doubt people with DSD's walk a different path, that may be quite difficult or at least challenging at times. Growing up somewhere culturally conservative is no doubt difficult for many too.

But this has nothing to do with someone who knows he is male, pretending to be a woman to cheat at top level sports and steal Olympic medals, and take all the accolades and advantages that follow that "win". Thankfully no women were harmed (that we know of) these Olympics, but things need to change immediately so in future Olympics women are not competing with men, in high contact sport or any sport at all.

What has that got to do with him competing, at elite level, in women's boxing? He is a man and everyone knew it before women were put at risk.

His difficulties accepting his DSD diagnosis shouldn't give him a free pass to hurt women. What's your point here? It's understandable that disappointed/frustrated men want to punch women?

Do you identify as a misogynist or were you born that way?

’passing’ in photos are not an indication of ‘passing’ in real life.

Absolutely. I've seen quite a few photographs of transwomen who look nothing like their photographs in real life. You can work wonders with Photoshop, filters and the like...

Khelif was discovered playing football with the boys of the same age by the boxing coach. What makes you believe that Khelif was being brought up as a female once male puberty started?

And bluntly, it is irrelevant to this discussion about female boxing whether this male person believed they were male or female unless you wish to prioritise a male person's feelings and emotional health over female boxers.

It is remarkable. It really really is....