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To walk away immediately from this

306 replies

Consoprize · 03/11/2024 07:34

I met a man through a mutual group of friends. Let’s call him Chad . We’ve been seeing each other a few months, although nothing serious yet.

Chad and I are supposed to go on a trip at the end of november to see a concert. I have the tickets and hotel booking and he hasn’t paid his share yet.

Our mutual friends are throwing an engagement party in December. We were both invited. The engaged couple know we’ve been seeing each other. It’s not a secret.

An old flame of Chad’s is also going to the party. She is flying in from overseas. I know he hasn’t seen her since she left the U.K but they were casually dating before she left.

I jokingly asked Chad if I needed to be concerned that he’d be with her at the party, rather than me.

Chad said he actually wasn’t sure…but feels it might be best to agree that he and I aren’t “together” at the party itself as he “doesn’t want to be in a difficult situation”.

I have told Chad that that didn’t work for me, that I’m keeping the concert tickets and to not contact me ever again.

Chad wants to talk about it some more. Chad thinks he should be allowed more time to think it through. He feels I’m being pushy and giving him an ultimatum.

I’ve told Chad to shove it up his arse and the very fact he even has to think about it, tells me everything I need to know about how he perceives me. He thinks that’s unfair of me before we’ve even talked about it.

I don’t think IABU here, surely?

OP posts:
MolkosTeenageAngst · 03/11/2024 14:38

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Avatartar · 03/11/2024 14:41

Life’s too short to be an option he’s treating you as if he’s approaching a buffet

IntrovertInDisguise · 03/11/2024 14:57

YABU to have called him Chad because in my head he then never had a chance, no matter how the story had unfolded.

😂🤣😂

andIsaid · 03/11/2024 15:04

Consoprize · 03/11/2024 08:43

This man is asking me to basically leave him alone that night, so he can keep his options open to shag his casual ex. Maybe not after the wedding, but at least in the weeks after while she’s still in town. He can’t risk her thinking he’s unavailable.

There’s no doubt about what his intention is.

No dancing with him, no sitting with him, no evidence whatsoever that we’re anything more than acquaintances.

No bloody thanks.

Edited

It is so odd.

If she refuses, he comes over to you and says what ? "Right babe, let's leave, she didn't want me?

Is that who he thinks you are?

😂

RampantIvy · 03/11/2024 15:07

To me, this is exactly what dating should be for, and used to be for. Seeing multiple people until you wanted to commit exclusively to one of them.

To me this isn't what dating is about. I'm a dinosaur, but I don't think dating should be treated like a box of chocolates. Surely, you have a few dates with someone to see if you want to progress further, and if you don't you go on to the next one. I would hate to think I was one chocolate among many while seeing someone.

TheTrumptonRiots · 03/11/2024 15:12

SerafinasGoose · 03/11/2024 12:19

From dictionary of the manosphere:

Chads are the “ultimate alpha” – the ultra-masculine, virile, powerful and sexually attractive man to whom Stacys [attractive women] and other women flock.

Sounds as though that's the way this bloke and others like him see themselves, if he wants to keep various options open for sex and thinks this is a matter in any way up for discussion.

Chad will be easily recognised on this site because it's populated by MRA types and their enablers: the kind of women who love to tell other women they're being too harsh on the poor darlings, that they 'hate' men if they have some self-respect and require certain standards in a partner, and that they should just give sexually-incontinent males one more free pass because 'he might have depression'.

That was cathartic .... 😂

Edited

You obviously needed to get that off your chest 🤣 thank you for enlightening me obviously more imported nonsense I'm a bloke myself and I'm old school so I'd still use the word Gobshite for the Chads of this world 😉

ThatWarmJadeSeal · 03/11/2024 15:19

Bellyblueboy · 03/11/2024 11:46

I think we have taken different things from this.

you have done the but I’m a cool girl I can be independent at a party and talk to other people - this woman needs to be stuck to her man I case he glanced at another girl.

i have taken it that Chad wants to be able to tell people he isn’t in a relationship with OP because he might want to rekindle his relationship with this old flame. Which is great he is being honest. But then he is turning on OP by saying she is pressuring him. I would walk away because I have self esteem and would be in any sort of relationship with man who wanted to pretend he ain’t seeing me in case it reduces his chances of veto g it on with his ex.

its not about being stuck together at the party, its about self worth.

Edited

My self worth isn't wrapped into my relationship with a man. I think that's the difference between us.

ThatWarmJadeSeal · 03/11/2024 15:21

Gymnopedie · 03/11/2024 14:19

I don't see that as being treated like crap. I'm at a party to mingle, not showcase my relationship. I would be surprised if I spend 50% of the time by his side, I'm chatting and dancing and things.

That's a lot different to don't come anywhere near me at all (not even 'less than 50% of the time') because there's someone else there that I might want to get off with. Would you be quite so cool with that?

I don't see him saying that. I see an intense conversation as the OP gets more and more agitated wanting to know exactly how he will be interacting with her at a party in the near future and then her hearing what she wants to hear from his responses.

Whothefuckdoesthat · 03/11/2024 15:22

Consoprize · 03/11/2024 08:36

I’m afraid I don’t agree. All the friends at the party know we’ve been seeing each other. It’d be so humiliating to have to pretend we weren’t. She isn’t even a proper ex. Just someone he was shagging. He just wants to keep his options open, I think.

I hope you ever so casually let everyone know that you and Chad are no longer seeing each other, and why. So when he turns up at the party, everyone will think he’s a complete arse and he gets a taste of that humiliation. I’d also follow @NotOneOfTheInCrowd’s suggestion. Just to make totally sure that Chad’s evening doesn’t turn out quite the way he’s hoping.

ThatWarmJadeSeal · 03/11/2024 15:23

Bellyblueboy · 03/11/2024 13:23

Your parents were swingers😊? They pretended to be single at parties in case they met someone they could sleep with?

No idea. They might have been. What I saw is that my mother and father were able to interact as full humans without leaning on their partners. You know like well balanced, fulfilled adults?? Probably not....

ThatWarmJadeSeal · 03/11/2024 15:24

Stravaig · 03/11/2024 14:14

Hang on.

You've 'been seeing each other a few months, although nothing serious yet'
&
'they were casually dating before she left.'

You and she are in exactly the same category. Two women he has casually dated. They stopped casually dating when she left, then he started casually dating you.

To me, this is exactly what dating should be for, and used to be for. Seeing multiple people until you wanted to commit exclusively to one of them.

Casually dating is not commitment, or even exclusivity.

If you like him, why not simply carry on casually seeing him, as you have been perfectly happy doing until now; while also seeing what happens between him and others, and between you and others.

You have been invited to this party as an individual, so go and have fun with whoever you might meet. You might get on well this old flame, for starters.

Trying to force the issue by assuming and demanding a commitment that simply isn't there, is, to me, artificial, irrational, counterproductive, a bit odd.

Posting as I see I this is a minority view!

Yes this is how I'd live life too. Not trying to tie down any man from the first date into a frenzied drive towards marriage. It's all way too neurotic and full on.

Resisterance · 03/11/2024 15:24

SensibleSigma · 03/11/2024 07:43

Man tries to have his cake and eat it. Discovers woman isn’t a cafe.

🏆

ThatWarmJadeSeal · 03/11/2024 15:25

Whothefuckdoesthat · 03/11/2024 15:22

I hope you ever so casually let everyone know that you and Chad are no longer seeing each other, and why. So when he turns up at the party, everyone will think he’s a complete arse and he gets a taste of that humiliation. I’d also follow @NotOneOfTheInCrowd’s suggestion. Just to make totally sure that Chad’s evening doesn’t turn out quite the way he’s hoping.

Edited

You know if you did this at a party, people will think you have a personality disorder or at least are extremely toxic. Bunny boiler type.

Peoplearebloodyidiots · 03/11/2024 15:25

Love that you did this Op, excellent backbone. Chad is bad.

Raindropskeepfallinonmyhead · 03/11/2024 15:26

Chad's a dick.

Whothefuckdoesthat · 03/11/2024 15:27

Aww Jade, chuck in a few more insults rather than any sensible points. It hasn’t occurred to you that it’s your approach that is slightly odd, has it?

RampantIvy · 03/11/2024 15:29

Maybe Jade is Chad?

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Why so defensive Chad? Sorry, I mean Jade? 😁

Bellyblueboy · 03/11/2024 15:34

ThatWarmJadeSeal · 03/11/2024 15:23

No idea. They might have been. What I saw is that my mother and father were able to interact as full humans without leaning on their partners. You know like well balanced, fulfilled adults?? Probably not....

😂 I can assure you that I, like most adults, can mingle at social and work events alone.

I just wouldn’t tolerate a man I was seeing asking me to pretend I dont know him so he can see if he can get his leg over his ex!

but clearly you would - and that’s okay. Horses for courses.

but don’t pretend women who have standards are needy, pathetic losers.

ThatWarmJadeSeal · 03/11/2024 15:36

Whothefuckdoesthat · 03/11/2024 15:33

Why so defensive Chad? Sorry, I mean Jade? 😁

Not defensive. Just speculating the same as you are.

You see, this is someone's engagement party, the ex could potentially be weird about the whole thing and our love triangle become centered on their special day. This is another reason I really wouldn't mind if we didn't use their social event to announce our relationship. Better just to keep our heads down and let the couple enjoy their night than insist on making it all about me and my relationship.

It's just how I've been raised. You know not everything has to be about me and mine.

ThatWarmJadeSeal · 03/11/2024 15:37

Bellyblueboy · 03/11/2024 15:34

😂 I can assure you that I, like most adults, can mingle at social and work events alone.

I just wouldn’t tolerate a man I was seeing asking me to pretend I dont know him so he can see if he can get his leg over his ex!

but clearly you would - and that’s okay. Horses for courses.

but don’t pretend women who have standards are needy, pathetic losers.

I don't see he said pretend you don't know me. I see OP becoming irate that the ex is there, threatened, and wanting to make sure he will parade their relationship and him being like nah that's a bit vulgar. Her in his face, red faced, crying, will you dance with me? WONT YOU EVEN TOUCH ME?!?!?!?! And him being like wow. Okay. No.

Whothefuckdoesthat · 03/11/2024 15:43

ThatWarmJadeSeal · 03/11/2024 15:36

Not defensive. Just speculating the same as you are.

You see, this is someone's engagement party, the ex could potentially be weird about the whole thing and our love triangle become centered on their special day. This is another reason I really wouldn't mind if we didn't use their social event to announce our relationship. Better just to keep our heads down and let the couple enjoy their night than insist on making it all about me and my relationship.

It's just how I've been raised. You know not everything has to be about me and mine.

See, if you’d said this in an earlier post, rather than being so rude and insulting to anyone with a different opinion, you might have had a better response.

But as an aside, the OP wasn’t intending to use the party to announce her casual relationship with Chad. Everyone already knows about it. She was just refusing to let herself be used as Chad’s Plan B, which is very sensible of her.

ThatWarmJadeSeal · 03/11/2024 15:47

Whothefuckdoesthat · 03/11/2024 15:43

See, if you’d said this in an earlier post, rather than being so rude and insulting to anyone with a different opinion, you might have had a better response.

But as an aside, the OP wasn’t intending to use the party to announce her casual relationship with Chad. Everyone already knows about it. She was just refusing to let herself be used as Chad’s Plan B, which is very sensible of her.

I did say that and actually, nobody other than the OP really has much place to expect anything from me or my replies. I'm replying to the OP's situation, not to satisfy other members of the site. At the very most, the OP has to find my post relevant..not even helpful. Your expectation that my posts should be to your liking is entitlement from you.

On many forums, you wouldn't even be allowed to critique the posts of other people replying to the OP. You give your opinion, clarify it or ask someone to clarify theirs. You aren't there to judge other people's advice.

Maybe stick to interacting with OPs and you won't get into these pointless interactions.

morestraightforward · 03/11/2024 15:48

She isn’t even a proper ex. Just someone he was shagging. .

Presumably he thought the same was going on with you