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To wonder why dp can't get a job this way

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Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 11:35

Dp can never get a job directly with a employer his applications are always rejected or he doesn't hear back.
We are trying to avoid agencies as his last workplace had a hire and fire system dp got settled there after been there almost 2 years but company didnt have enough work so he had to finish.

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LittleRedRidingHoody · 31/10/2024 11:40

It's a numbers game, and its relentless. Presuming he's qualified for the jobs he's applying for and has a strong CV/tailoring cover letters to the role etc, it just takes time. I think my worst stint was well over 100 applications, to which I got 4 interviews and 1 offer - but it only takes one! 🫠

GettingStuffed · 31/10/2024 11:42

I know, I spent years looking for a job and either didn't get interviews or didn't get past the interviews whilst my son in law job hops very easily and not even in the same industry.

orangewasp · 31/10/2024 11:45

What type of sector is he looking in?

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 11:55

orangewasp · 31/10/2024 11:45

What type of sector is he looking in?

Warehouse manufacturing anything really

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orangewasp · 31/10/2024 12:08

Ah, OK. Not my area unfortunately but it must be CV/application form related, so generally:

  • ensure each application is tailored to the specific job/firm
  • If CV make sure skills are prominently shown and relevant
  • read the person sec carefully and address each if the essential criteria showing how he meets these
  • check spelling and grammar v carefully. Ensure his email is sensible.
  • account for gaps in employment
  • show willingness to take additional qualifications
Allywill · 31/10/2024 12:10

I think a lot of companies use agencies as they shift through applications and only forward those that meet the requirements- it saves a lot of time for the company hiring. I couldn’t understand from your post what was the objection to using an agency - is it that he was employed by the agency rather than the company and once business fell off all the agency workers were let go? To be honest even if he had been employed directly by the company - they would have probably done the same if the work just wasn’t there - it’s usually last in first out in those situations.

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 31/10/2024 12:44

Is his CV relevant to these areas? A lot of the standard templates are useless, especially if you have little formal education. I did my husband a similar one and kept it brief.

A summary at the top: experienced fork lift truck driver with (whatever the licence for the big one is - can't remember the weight off hand).
20 plus years work in manufacturing and warehousing etc.

Then bullet point key skills
• licence for ...
• Knowledge of X stock system
• understanding of warehouse health and safety (include specific training)
• heavy lifting training

Then any additional qualifications such as spills kit training, first aid and so on.

Stick education down at bottom and then references.

The type Indeed want you to do start with school and to be honest he isn't really sure what he has so I just write 'standard grades' (Scotland)

Have a look through the job and to see if there's anything else. I'd also get an application in quickly. They might have closing dates but often in these places if they get a suitable candidate job done and they are taken on.

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 13:03

Allywill · 31/10/2024 12:10

I think a lot of companies use agencies as they shift through applications and only forward those that meet the requirements- it saves a lot of time for the company hiring. I couldn’t understand from your post what was the objection to using an agency - is it that he was employed by the agency rather than the company and once business fell off all the agency workers were let go? To be honest even if he had been employed directly by the company - they would have probably done the same if the work just wasn’t there - it’s usually last in first out in those situations.

At least chance for redundancy if employed directly

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Shushquite · 31/10/2024 13:08

How about he does agency. Then applies directly to the company he is working at. But have a little chat with the hiring person or manager first. If they like him, they might help him. One of my brothers got a job that way. His manager wasn't allowed to let him know about the job post.

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 13:25

Shushquite · 31/10/2024 13:08

How about he does agency. Then applies directly to the company he is working at. But have a little chat with the hiring person or manager first. If they like him, they might help him. One of my brothers got a job that way. His manager wasn't allowed to let him know about the job post.

Well yes hopefully that may happen for him

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CheekySwan · 31/10/2024 13:25

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 11:55

Warehouse manufacturing anything really

Majority of these use agency workers because the work fluctuates and its much easier to get rid of staff

Have you had someone look at his CV?

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 18:56

CheekySwan · 31/10/2024 13:25

Majority of these use agency workers because the work fluctuates and its much easier to get rid of staff

Have you had someone look at his CV?

I haven't no but some very useful tips on here

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Notsuchafattynow · 31/10/2024 19:02

Can he drive? Clean licence?

Supermarket's love ex warehouse workers for their Home delivery jobs. It's an easy transition and a far more reliable industry/employer. He may have to start on sub 30 hours, but once foot in door there are ways to increase hours.

Apply by dropping a CV and covering letter at the CS kiosk.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 31/10/2024 19:03

Is his number and email address correct?

Does he regularly check his junk mail?

titchy · 31/10/2024 19:03

If he does agency and is reliable it won't matter if the contract for one employer finishes, the agency will place him with another if he's a good worker.

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:04

Notsuchafattynow · 31/10/2024 19:02

Can he drive? Clean licence?

Supermarket's love ex warehouse workers for their Home delivery jobs. It's an easy transition and a far more reliable industry/employer. He may have to start on sub 30 hours, but once foot in door there are ways to increase hours.

Apply by dropping a CV and covering letter at the CS kiosk.

Unfortunately he doesn't drive

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Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:06

titchy · 31/10/2024 19:03

If he does agency and is reliable it won't matter if the contract for one employer finishes, the agency will place him with another if he's a good worker.

Was hoping so as he is a very good worker but sadly they haven't managed to place him anywhere they have twice now said there isn't anything at the moment.

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V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:09

Not being able to drive may be a barrier. It really limits what you can access if you rely on public transport. It can mean early starts or late finishes aren't possible.

Does it have to be warehouse/manufacturing?

What qualifications does he have?

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:09

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 31/10/2024 12:44

Is his CV relevant to these areas? A lot of the standard templates are useless, especially if you have little formal education. I did my husband a similar one and kept it brief.

A summary at the top: experienced fork lift truck driver with (whatever the licence for the big one is - can't remember the weight off hand).
20 plus years work in manufacturing and warehousing etc.

Then bullet point key skills
• licence for ...
• Knowledge of X stock system
• understanding of warehouse health and safety (include specific training)
• heavy lifting training

Then any additional qualifications such as spills kit training, first aid and so on.

Stick education down at bottom and then references.

The type Indeed want you to do start with school and to be honest he isn't really sure what he has so I just write 'standard grades' (Scotland)

Have a look through the job and to see if there's anything else. I'd also get an application in quickly. They might have closing dates but often in these places if they get a suitable candidate job done and they are taken on.

Not easy to do his CV as he came from another country so no UK education and no grades. He's had one job only here in the UK which is the one I mentioned that he was in for almost 2 years when they decided there wasn't enough work to keep him.

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V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:10

Not easy to do his CV as he came from another country so no UK education and no grades. He's had one job only here in the UK which is the one I mentioned that he was in for almost 2 years when they decided there wasn't enough work to keep him.

Does he speak fluent English?
Can he list anything he's had from abroad - school leaving certificate etc? Most countries have something.
What was his occupation in his home country?

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:15

V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:10

Not easy to do his CV as he came from another country so no UK education and no grades. He's had one job only here in the UK which is the one I mentioned that he was in for almost 2 years when they decided there wasn't enough work to keep him.

Does he speak fluent English?
Can he list anything he's had from abroad - school leaving certificate etc? Most countries have something.
What was his occupation in his home country?

He was a shoemaker but no qualifications to show for it English is good. He left school at 14 to help his parents.

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Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:16

He can pick most things up very quickly and is a great worker.

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SummerSnowstorm · 31/10/2024 22:22

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:09

Not easy to do his CV as he came from another country so no UK education and no grades. He's had one job only here in the UK which is the one I mentioned that he was in for almost 2 years when they decided there wasn't enough work to keep him.

I would be tempted to embellish his experience from jobs in his home country. Realistically a warehouse type job isn't going to do deep background checks to confirm, and it may help mitigate the slightly emptier than average CV.

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:24

SummerSnowstorm · 31/10/2024 22:22

I would be tempted to embellish his experience from jobs in his home country. Realistically a warehouse type job isn't going to do deep background checks to confirm, and it may help mitigate the slightly emptier than average CV.

I have done that tbh

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V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:24

I remember you op you've posted before.

Your DP really needs to get some training/education. The uk is not an economy with much demand for unskilled labour. He is going to be competing with swarms of candidates with better work experience and GCSE maths/english, vocational qualifications etc and driving licenses.

He needs to look at getting some skills suited to the UK job market. If you are on a low income there may be adult education courses he can access. He probably can't afford to be picky about agencies, he'll need to take any work he can.

Seasonal work might be an option - retail in winter, fruit picking/tourism roles in summer.

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