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To wonder why dp can't get a job this way

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Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 11:35

Dp can never get a job directly with a employer his applications are always rejected or he doesn't hear back.
We are trying to avoid agencies as his last workplace had a hire and fire system dp got settled there after been there almost 2 years but company didnt have enough work so he had to finish.

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Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:26

V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:24

I remember you op you've posted before.

Your DP really needs to get some training/education. The uk is not an economy with much demand for unskilled labour. He is going to be competing with swarms of candidates with better work experience and GCSE maths/english, vocational qualifications etc and driving licenses.

He needs to look at getting some skills suited to the UK job market. If you are on a low income there may be adult education courses he can access. He probably can't afford to be picky about agencies, he'll need to take any work he can.

Seasonal work might be an option - retail in winter, fruit picking/tourism roles in summer.

Yes I know but he just hasn't had time or money for these things. I wanted to place him on a forklift course but it was £400.
He would love to do electrics plumbing etc but the bloody cost is out of reach

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V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:27

Other options:
Self employment/trades:
Painting & decorating
Garden services
Care work often needs male workers to deal with male patients - try care homes. Especially if he can help with lifting etc.

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:28

Also I dont believe he would be entitled to any funding as he isn't a UK citizen

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Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:29

V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:27

Other options:
Self employment/trades:
Painting & decorating
Garden services
Care work often needs male workers to deal with male patients - try care homes. Especially if he can help with lifting etc.

He needs qualifications and experience for alot of those roles though doesn't he

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V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:31

Have you checked if he can access any funding?

https://www.skillsforcareers.education.gov.uk/pages/training-choice/free-courses-for-jobs

Tbh i never understand why people would move to the uk with no skills/qualifications. Its a bloody expensive place to live and there are no jobs for unskilled labour. Its a recipe for poverty.

Free courses for jobs | Skills for Careers

Courses to help you improve your wage outcomes and job prospects, and gain skills that employers value.

https://www.skillsforcareers.education.gov.uk/pages/training-choice/free-courses-for-jobs

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:32

V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:31

Have you checked if he can access any funding?

https://www.skillsforcareers.education.gov.uk/pages/training-choice/free-courses-for-jobs

Tbh i never understand why people would move to the uk with no skills/qualifications. Its a bloody expensive place to live and there are no jobs for unskilled labour. Its a recipe for poverty.

I agree to a point tbh but he's still better off here than his home country where wages are at poverty level

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V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:33

Does he have appropriate visa/leave to remain?

You don't need qualifications for painting and decorating or garden services. I don't think you need any for care work either and I think it can be an advantage if you speak another language.

EffinMagicFairy · 31/10/2024 22:33

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:26

Yes I know but he just hasn't had time or money for these things. I wanted to place him on a forklift course but it was £400.
He would love to do electrics plumbing etc but the bloody cost is out of reach

If he wants to do electrics or plumbing - he needs to look at an apprenticeship, they aren’t just for school leavers, and he will be paid while he learns.

V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:34

I agree to a point tbh but he's still better off here than his home country where wages are at poverty level

Not if he cannot get a job and rent/cost of living here is much higher.

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:34

He has limited Leave to remain with work permitted.

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V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:35

Is he trying to send a lot of money home? Sometimes migrants are reluctant to spend on training etc because family at home expect them to send remittances.

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:35

EffinMagicFairy · 31/10/2024 22:33

If he wants to do electrics or plumbing - he needs to look at an apprenticeship, they aren’t just for school leavers, and he will be paid while he learns.

We seem to hit obstacles all of the time as some want the gcse grades etc to accept people on a apprenticeship.

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V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:36

Has he sought advice from any charities etc? There are charities who support refugees etc.

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:36

V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:35

Is he trying to send a lot of money home? Sometimes migrants are reluctant to spend on training etc because family at home expect them to send remittances.

Money is going home yes and we have to pay extortionate visa fees every 2.5 years

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V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:37

Op you've been posting for years about this guy.

Has he made any attempt to study for GCSE maths or english in that time? Theres loads of free resources online

V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:38

Money is going home yes

Perhaps he can't afford that. He may be better long term spending some money on the skills he'll need for employment in the UK

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:39

V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:37

Op you've been posting for years about this guy.

Has he made any attempt to study for GCSE maths or english in that time? Theres loads of free resources online

Won't that cost money though

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orangewasp · 31/10/2024 22:39

I would suggest contacting the careers service. If there's a way for him to access free, relevant training they will know and be able to support him.

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:42

He was actually offered a job through an agency this Monday gone and was meant to start following day but he got a text on the day off the agency to say the client is changing the start date and they will update him so far nothing.

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Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:44

What should we do hang around waiting as there is another agency who had something for him but that may have gone now.

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Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:44

V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:38

Money is going home yes

Perhaps he can't afford that. He may be better long term spending some money on the skills he'll need for employment in the UK

Agreed but its a bone of content

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V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:45

Won't that cost money though

Has he even tried to access help

You need to explain to him that its unlikely he'll find enough unskilled labour work to survive here. The economy here is likely extremely different to where he's from. He may be used to an informal job situation where someone with no skills at all can easily labour for cash.

Normallynumb · 31/10/2024 22:46

If you/he are on a joint UC claim I believe he could do courses at reduced costs
I have read a previous post too,it seems nothing has changed so he needs to be more proactive.

V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:46

Carework requires no qualifications and they are always desperate for staff

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:46

V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:45

Won't that cost money though

Has he even tried to access help

You need to explain to him that its unlikely he'll find enough unskilled labour work to survive here. The economy here is likely extremely different to where he's from. He may be used to an informal job situation where someone with no skills at all can easily labour for cash.

Yes he comes from a completely different background to what the UK is

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