To wonder why dp can't get a job this way

[Lacky301]

Dp can never get a job directly with a employer his applications are always rejected or he doesn't hear back.
We are trying to avoid agencies as his last workplace had a hire and fire system dp got settled there after been there almost 2 years but company didnt have enough work so he had to finish.

Thing is OP, there are people applying for these roles who have previous experience and/or qualifications. I don't know a lot about warehouse work but people will certainly do bar/waiter work while they're at university, and after. Your DP really needs to stop sending money home and use it to establish himself in a trade, but lots of people have told you this on previous threads. If he's not willing to change something, your situation will never improve. There's no advice that anyone on Mumsnet can give you that will get around this.

Well he can't write the language, the weather isn't great, and the quality of life on your part time income and benefits can't be great, so...

Maybe but his country is a definate no for me and my sons here.

Are you going to address the sending money home issue?

Yes

Can he afford to buy a push bike? At least then he'd be more able to travel to work further afield.

How did you meet him?

He's not a hard worker if he's not willing to get some skills/quals in his spare time. He's had 2 years to study gcse maths of an evening (could do this using free resources) but has not done it because all he wants is money to send home.

He is a leech.

He doesn't want to train to contribute to the uk economy, he just wants to suck out money.

Honestly he's probably got wife & kids back home he's funding. Do NOT pay his visa for him. If he can't fund that he shouldn't be staying here.

How's he sucking out money

He was working for 2 years before he lost his job wasn't that contributing to the economy.

From OP’s previous threads, if she stopped giving him money to send home, he’d return home as well (probably back to his wife and family).

OP he is bleeding you dry.

From you, OP. He is sucking out money from you.

I don't know the OP's partner, but I am a bit shocked to hear the view expressed that, because this man has not currently got a job, it MUST be because he is lazy and doesn't want to work. Have any of you seen the state of the economy at the moment and now difficult it can be for people to find work these days?

Also the criticism of him sending money to his family - the assumption that he must have a wife and kids back home - this sounds like racism to me.

If any of us had family living in abject poverty, and then had the chance to move abroad to make money to support them, pretty sure any decent person would do that.......

OP, racism could be the reason he isn't finding employment. There have been some studies done - I don't have time to search and link to it now - where even a "foreign sounding" name on a job application was shown to lead to many candidates being disadvantaged, in a number of fields.

Are there any local adult ed classes he can sign up for? Or job seeking classes? For example in my local library I have seen a group advertised for job seekers, where some volunteers give help with applications. Something like this might help him.

Getting his drivers license would also be really useful, as then he can always do man and van work - a number of fellas round here do that and they seem to make a living......

Your forklift license idea also a very good one - if it's "only" £400 I would urge him to save for it if he can (maybe in the short term reducing what he sends home - because in the long run he could send much more). My neighbour at my last house had his forklift license, and even though his job history was incredibly chequered he always seemed to find work with it.......

Apologies if I have missed this, but has your partner considered applying for cleaning work; security; hospital portering; telephone work; care home work?

Is he handy around the house - good at flat pack furniture and minor DIY jobs? I imagine as a trained shoe-maker he is. I have seen a couple of fellas on our local Facebook hiring themselves out in this capacity for a fixed hourly rate - I think it's called "husband for an hour", something like that? A bit sexist, but I suppose it's typically used by single women who can't face tackling jobs you would stereotypically get a man to do. (I've got a spider taken up residency in my bedroom, and if my ex husband doesn't have time to deal with it when he drops DD off today I may have to hire one myself!

Thank you so much it's really upset me what has been said on here about him been a leech lazy etc.

Have a look at the public sector. Local authority, NHS don't only employ people with high level qualifications. Portering for instance? They advertise on line.

Apologies if this has already been suggested.

Saw you mention warehouse work- someone I know worked for DHL in a huge warehouse and absolutely loved it. His pay was more than he earnt as an accountant- and he was physically active at DHL and lost 3 stone I am not joking! He left accounting because he was bored and took a job with DHL thinking it would be temporary whilst he looked for something else but it transformed him. He raved about them! If you have a warehouse near you might be worth him giving in an application. They were constantly hiring and looking for people. This was about 18m ago!

This is pretty specific but have a look at Greencore, they are a huge food manufacturer with multiple sites, employ a lot of agency & permanent staff and pay above NMW. They struggle to hire so bus staff in from surrounding areas (e.g. Sheffield to Worksop)
To be fair any food manufacturers employ a lot of staff who speak English as their second language

Thanks ill look now

Also the criticism of him sending money to his family - the assumption that he must have a wife and kids back home - this sounds like racism to me.

OP has posted about this a lot - there’s a lot of background and this is what is making people say he is using her/likely has another family. Not just the fact of sending money home, which I agree is quite normal.

The eurgh it’s racism is a really easy card to play, however, I know women who’ve been affected by this phenomenon. Single men who come to this country, shack up with someone who ends up paying the bills then send all their money home.

Yhe careers service and jobcentre can both refer him for funded courses like security, CSCC and forklift. If you can give an idea of the area you live in posters might be able yo give you more specific advice.

I have no idea where you live.
Yesterday, I was in our nearest large town( keeps being turned down for city status)

I saw at least 5 shops and 4 stalls looking for staff. It may be worth him walking around handing out CVs. Our local FB page people ask for jobs.

How will he get to warehouses etc? Does he have a bike or do you drive him to places?
Can he spend time doing on line courses to improve his reading and writing skills. Even if it is games aimed at children. Or duolingo type of think. It make boost his confidence.

Most local authorities have accessible English and Maths classes for non native speakers. The participants often know about local employers and share information with each other.

Is he in touch with other people from his country who live vaguely locally? They may be useful contacts.

Does the jobcentre or local authority have a form of job club?

Hopefully, he finds something soon. He may have to reduce the amount he sends home gor a while and save for driving lessons or fork lift truck training. I hope I am not being too rude but where does he get his money to send home if he isn't working?

Good luck

How much does he send home op? Are you paying that while he's out of work? Has he saved up for the visa renewal?

He's only been out of work 2 week's

The job he's just lost was in walking distance

It sounds like things have been very difficult @Lacky301. It's a little confusing why you have jumped to there being a major issue with employability if your DP has been working for 2 years, was let go only due to lack of work, and has only been looking for 2 weeks. How does this line up with your OP of "can never get a job directly" or some general idea that no agency work can be suitable yet two agencies responded within the course of one day on the thread? GCSE English and maths have free online courses, why has your DP not done those so that he can improve his employability? I would say that while you might not like some of the advice you get as a result of being fully open about your DP's situation, advice will always be more useful to you if you are fully clear about additional issues. The timing with the budget may have meant a recruitment freeze in some businesses, so you may need to hold your nerve for a few weeks to let businesses work through the cost impact and then it'll be clearer which roles are actually still open.

You mention a son, and that your DP has been here just 2 years; is that a shared child? Did you move to a larger home to accommodate the DP? If you have a job, presumably lived somewhere before, and previously had earned enough between you to not need benefits, then how is the situation suddenly so desperate? How has no money been saved for rainy day issues, nor put towards basic training like forklift driver, when that would allow him to earn so much more? Sending some money home to his family is fine when your family unit has met its basic needs, but he cannot help them if he makes your living situation perilous here.