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To wonder why dp can't get a job this way

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Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 11:35

Dp can never get a job directly with a employer his applications are always rejected or he doesn't hear back.
We are trying to avoid agencies as his last workplace had a hire and fire system dp got settled there after been there almost 2 years but company didnt have enough work so he had to finish.

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murasaki · 31/10/2024 23:59

I think he doesn't want to work. All the suggestions given , especially the door work one, are good. He needs to leave. As I can't imagine this situation helps your depression. And if he stays, he needs to stop sending YOUR money home., I'm afraid he saw you coming.

Lacky301 · 01/11/2024 00:08

murasaki · 31/10/2024 23:59

I think he doesn't want to work. All the suggestions given , especially the door work one, are good. He needs to leave. As I can't imagine this situation helps your depression. And if he stays, he needs to stop sending YOUR money home., I'm afraid he saw you coming.

He definately wants to work

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yeaitsmeagain · 01/11/2024 00:14

We hosted a Ukrainian refugee and she had a factory job in less than a year, even though she didn't even know the alphabet let alone the language when she moved here and she was nearly 60.

She had no skills, obviously no transport, and walked to work.

You're either in the wrong location to easily access jobs, aren't applying for anywhere near enough, or he doesn't actually want one.

There are warehouses and factories so desperate to hire they'd probably take a well trained dog if it could reach the boxes.

Snugglemonkey · 01/11/2024 00:17

V0xPopuli · 31/10/2024 22:24

I remember you op you've posted before.

Your DP really needs to get some training/education. The uk is not an economy with much demand for unskilled labour. He is going to be competing with swarms of candidates with better work experience and GCSE maths/english, vocational qualifications etc and driving licenses.

He needs to look at getting some skills suited to the UK job market. If you are on a low income there may be adult education courses he can access. He probably can't afford to be picky about agencies, he'll need to take any work he can.

Seasonal work might be an option - retail in winter, fruit picking/tourism roles in summer.

Sadly, this is true. Even if he just had basic English and maths certification, it would be really helpful for him. As would learning to drive. Jobcentres offer free courses and certification in maths and English.

Cornflakelover · 01/11/2024 00:18

Honestly see if you can get him to get a door safe badge
he won’t be out of work if he gets one . And there is so many different types of security work from working in shops / retail nightclubs warehouses airports to NHS & the MOD

my son was offered a job at the MOD in there security department a few years ago but decided to take the NHS one as less traveling

If your partner if he is a hard worker and people like him would fit right in doing security work

PyongyangKipperbang · 01/11/2024 00:28

A lot of knowledge of Warehousing, sorry havent RTFT but.......most warehouses use agencies because they can hire and lay off due to seasonal requirements. If a worker is good then they will be kept on and eventually offered a permanent contract. There is no such thing without having worked there as a temp first, its just doesnt happen.

I live in a town with a massive amount of distribution centres due to its location and not a single one takes staff on directly. Try AM2PM, they are pretty good and have a lot of warehousing contracts. Avoid Waterstones and Holland and Barret, they are awful places to work and have a high turnover. Boots are good and the place near me is very popular to work at.

Lacky301 · 01/11/2024 13:08

We have spoken about training etc etc but at the moment even £200 is alot to find at this time due to impending visa renewal and no job yet. We are also concerned about shelling out money and still having difficulties getting a job.

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Lacky301 · 01/11/2024 13:08

Also Christmas is coming up

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Lacky301 · 01/11/2024 13:09

We are waiting on royal mail for the Christmas period

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Lacky301 · 01/11/2024 13:10

We do live in a relatively quiet area it's not near a major city

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murasaki · 01/11/2024 13:26

Lacky301 · 01/11/2024 13:09

We are waiting on royal mail for the Christmas period

A word of warning about that. A friend recently quit. It's a LOT of walking, about 10 miles per day, that wasn't the problem as he's very fit. It was the lack of training, sorting mail before the round, dumping things that weren't tracked for 'another day' , poor managment, so queries not answered, and to top it off, being punched by a customer. And effectively working 5am to 5pm to get it done.

Lacky301 · 01/11/2024 13:33

murasaki · 01/11/2024 13:26

A word of warning about that. A friend recently quit. It's a LOT of walking, about 10 miles per day, that wasn't the problem as he's very fit. It was the lack of training, sorting mail before the round, dumping things that weren't tracked for 'another day' , poor managment, so queries not answered, and to top it off, being punched by a customer. And effectively working 5am to 5pm to get it done.

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It is just mail sorting not out delivering

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HowYouSpellingThat10 · 01/11/2024 13:54

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:09

Not easy to do his CV as he came from another country so no UK education and no grades. He's had one job only here in the UK which is the one I mentioned that he was in for almost 2 years when they decided there wasn't enough work to keep him.

Then you have to pull everything out of that job that is applicable elsewhere.

Even things like 'happy to do shift work', 'used to working outdoors or in a warehouse environment '.

It says 'this person understands the working conditions and won't complain the very basic unit is cold!

Sit down with him and go through his day. Did he check equipment, follow certain health and safety procedures, use any kind of stock system etc.

They don't have to be qualifications to be useful to the job.

Lacky301 · 01/11/2024 13:57

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 01/11/2024 13:54

Then you have to pull everything out of that job that is applicable elsewhere.

Even things like 'happy to do shift work', 'used to working outdoors or in a warehouse environment '.

It says 'this person understands the working conditions and won't complain the very basic unit is cold!

Sit down with him and go through his day. Did he check equipment, follow certain health and safety procedures, use any kind of stock system etc.

They don't have to be qualifications to be useful to the job.

Thank you that's useful advice

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V0xPopuli · 01/11/2024 14:36

We are also concerned about shelling out money and still having difficulties getting a job.

If you take that attitude it'll never change.

The reality is, the UK job market is not really geared up for unskilled migrant labour. It will not change for your dp - he will have to adapt for it.

Can he read and write english?

Lacky301 · 01/11/2024 15:28

V0xPopuli · 01/11/2024 14:36

We are also concerned about shelling out money and still having difficulties getting a job.

If you take that attitude it'll never change.

The reality is, the UK job market is not really geared up for unskilled migrant labour. It will not change for your dp - he will have to adapt for it.

Can he read and write english?

Yes but at this time shelling out money could be disastrous for us.
We will certainly look at shelling out in new year. His speakng English is good but writing slow.

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Outofthere · 01/11/2024 16:05

Have you looked into any groups (community, Charity, faith etc) from his home country in the UK? Sometimes these have access to funding and offer their own functional skills courses, other assistance or signposting to helpful services such as CV writing. Sometimes networking in these groups can unlock workplace opportunities.

murasaki · 01/11/2024 16:07

Lacky301 · 01/11/2024 15:28

Yes but at this time shelling out money could be disastrous for us.
We will certainly look at shelling out in new year. His speakng English is good but writing slow.

You may well need to speculate to accumulate. Dp's previous employer went bust during covid,but I paid out for him to renew his expired forklift ticket. It was worth it overall as he's not been out of work since.

Normallynumb · 01/11/2024 16:26

I think he is going to be more proactive
It seems he is relying on you to sort his life out including relying on you to finance it.
Bluntly what do you get out of this relationship?
Does he regard you as a golden ticket?
I'm sorry to be blunt, but I think anyone deserves more than this and nothing has changed since your last thread

Mrsttcno1 · 01/11/2024 16:29

I think the reality is OP that in the industry he wants to work in, warehouses etc, they tend to stick to agency staff because the work comes and goes so they simply don’t need full time employees. Agency means they can have extra when they need it and let them go when they don’t, it doesn’t work for their business model to hire them all full time directly and then have to continue paying their wages when half of the time they don’t actually need them there.

He’d have more luck branching out into other areas like customer service etc

Lacky301 · 01/11/2024 16:46

Normallynumb · 01/11/2024 16:26

I think he is going to be more proactive
It seems he is relying on you to sort his life out including relying on you to finance it.
Bluntly what do you get out of this relationship?
Does he regard you as a golden ticket?
I'm sorry to be blunt, but I think anyone deserves more than this and nothing has changed since your last thread

No no he wants to work and contribute doesn't see me as a golden ticket although he does rely on me to sort alot out in his life

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Lacky301 · 01/11/2024 16:47

Mrsttcno1 · 01/11/2024 16:29

I think the reality is OP that in the industry he wants to work in, warehouses etc, they tend to stick to agency staff because the work comes and goes so they simply don’t need full time employees. Agency means they can have extra when they need it and let them go when they don’t, it doesn’t work for their business model to hire them all full time directly and then have to continue paying their wages when half of the time they don’t actually need them there.

He’d have more luck branching out into other areas like customer service etc

Seems these are the easiest for somebody like him to get into

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Mrsttcno1 · 01/11/2024 16:49

Lacky301 · 01/11/2024 16:47

Seems these are the easiest for somebody like him to get into

But he’s not getting into them, he’s temporarily in and then let go when not needed so there’s no stability.

He’d be better looking at other jobs where he can be securely employed.

Lacky301 · 01/11/2024 17:00

Quite honestly I don't know what's best anymore

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Pinkfluffypencilcase · 01/11/2024 17:00

Lacky301 · 31/10/2024 22:26

Yes I know but he just hasn't had time or money for these things. I wanted to place him on a forklift course but it was £400.
He would love to do electrics plumbing etc but the bloody cost is out of reach

Depending where you are some food banks take on volunteers and provide training for the fork lift license.

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