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to be a bit surprised at the misogyny described/displayed on mn at times?

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nickytwotimes · 25/04/2008 13:40

Right, well, first off, I love it here. i especially love it because there are plenty of intelligent, witty posters.
However, I am frequently surprised at threads relating to pornography, exchanging sex for "gifts" and fanjo shaving, etc. Now, I know we've all got different ideas about what is acceptable, but sometimes it's like feminism never happened.

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PrincessConsualaBananaHammock · 25/04/2008 13:41

Fanjo Shaving love the way you just said it!

expatinscotland · 25/04/2008 13:43

how is fanjo shaving misogynist?

i'm a yetti and i personally don't like it!

i have so much body hair you wouldn't be able to see me from under it. so i take it off.

donnie · 25/04/2008 13:43

oh just don't go there ntt- this thing will kick off and then some.

northwestgirl · 25/04/2008 13:43

perhaps these people are post-feminists
me, I'll be a post feminist when we have post patriarchy.

VeniVidiVickiQV · 25/04/2008 13:44

You shouldnt be surprised. This internet world is a reflection of a portion of society as a whole. .

It irks me too (not all the same things that you have listed) when misogynistic comments and attitudes are displayed.

nickytwotimes · 25/04/2008 13:44

Well, I find it a bit that women would remove all of it. Tis tied in with the whole porn-culture thing imo.

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expatinscotland · 25/04/2008 13:45

maybe they don't like it, nicky.

maybe they make a personal choice about it and don't even use porn.

AlistairSim · 25/04/2008 13:45

For the love of Billie Jean King woman, get back in the kitchen where you belong!

MrsMattie · 25/04/2008 13:46

Some of the things you have mentioned annoy me, too.
I do find it odd when you get educated 45 yr old women talking about Brazilians.

onebatmother · 25/04/2008 13:47

Hello everyone.

madamez · 25/04/2008 13:47

I haven't seen much outright misogyny from posters. I have seen many accounts of misogynistic behaviour (ie dreadful stories of domestic violence, sexism etc). Is that what you mean, or are you using 'misogyny' to indicate 'someone whose definition of feminism is not the same as mine'?

themildmanneredjanitor · 25/04/2008 13:47

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themildmanneredjanitor · 25/04/2008 13:48

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expatinscotland · 25/04/2008 13:49

i'm well-educated, although not 45, and i discuss Brazilians with those interested in having them and see nothing misogynist at all about them.

as i said, i have a lot of dark body hair and very fair skin and, coming from a tropical climate, find it uncomfortable and unpleasant.

i like sex more with a Brazilian.

we don't like or use porn, either. it's my personal preference, just as it's other womens' to keep their hair, swing, have group sex, stay with cross-dressers, have anal sex, etc.

nickytwotimes · 25/04/2008 13:50

donnie - i'm pre-menstrual, lol!

expat, the porn thing has worked it's way into mainstream. Also, what makes us dislike something? Btw, i don't think anyone's wrong to do whatever they fancy doing to their own bodies. I just don't agree with them!

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quint · 25/04/2008 13:50

Oh FFS.

I love it here because its fun, supportive and enlightening (at times!) but I do get sick of people moaning about what other people talk about, who dies and made you in charge of whether we can talk about fanjo shaving, sex (for whatever reason) or porn.

Oh no now I'm doing it!

onebatmother · 25/04/2008 13:50

Hello tmmj! Are you still in evening dress for this afternoon's debate?

post feminists - I just got it.. posts are like poles, so it means it's okay to be cool with lapdancing.. I'm right, aren't I?

Chequers · 25/04/2008 13:51

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onebatmother · 25/04/2008 13:51

expat don't tell dp about the brazilian chap he'll be displeased.

expatinscotland · 25/04/2008 13:52

exactly, quint! since when does what you do with your own body hair define you as a woman?

i've been having Brazilians for over 20 years.

i have NO idea when the trend came out in porn and don't care.

onebatmother · 25/04/2008 13:52

Could you link to rape thread Chequers? Thanks.

MrsMattie · 25/04/2008 13:53

See, this thread is just going to descend into people bitching, now, when the OP was actually making a point.

(I didn't actually use the word misogynist in relation to waxing, however I reserve my right to balk at the thought of grown women having their pubes ripped out).

Chequers · 25/04/2008 13:53

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PrettyCandles · 25/04/2008 13:53

I'm glad that there are posts I don't agree with, or posters I disagree with. Have you tasted some of those lovey-dovey-hun sites where everyone is loving and supportive all the time? They're saccharin!

Hooray for feminism, I'm lucky it happened and I get to reap the benefits. However, it does not mean that all pre-feminist attitudes are wrong or that there's nothing to be gained or learned from them.

Hooray for diversity, for differences of opinion, for freedom of choice and freedom of speech!

expatinscotland · 25/04/2008 13:53

brazilian chap?

eh?

i laugh at people here who think you can get a real brazilian and think they can shield their modesty with paper knickers.

PMSL! lady, if you're so bashful you need paper knickers you have no business even considering that sort of wax.