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Children on phones/iPads in restaurabts

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Goldengirl123 · 27/10/2024 08:24

We have just got back from holiday and every night in restaurants. children of all ages were either looking at their phones or iPads the whole time. What’s happened to families sitting and having a conversation at meals times? I personally think it’s so wrong but maybe I am just being old fashioned

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BusyCaz · 27/10/2024 17:36

Allfur · 27/10/2024 17:23

Judging is not allowed but passive aggressive sarcasm is?

lol i was clapping the wit 👸

TheKhakiBiscuit · 27/10/2024 17:39

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SouthLondonMum22 · 27/10/2024 18:22

Allfur · 27/10/2024 17:25

Books and screens are not really comparable

A child can be just as engrossed in a book as the next child can be an iPad.

aesoplover · 27/10/2024 18:25

motherofbabydragon · 27/10/2024 16:43

@TwinklyAmberOrca some kids will never be able to due to special needs do you think we should socially isolate these children forever excluding them from these events and essentially keeping them away from large family celebrations if they are a meal out? my grandmother took that approach with my uncle and i can tell you now it made that branch of the family lonely and in a insular

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aesoplover · 27/10/2024 18:25

DrCoconut · 27/10/2024 17:15

I remember back in the 80s people pontificating about colouring in sheets and kids meals and how in their day you ate a small adult meal and sat quietly with your hands in your lap unless spoken to. This is just a new incarnation of the same thing.

Exactly

Errors · 27/10/2024 18:34

People really are falling over themselves to excuse it. In many cases, the very reasons people are using screens are exacerbated by excessive screen use!

Allfur · 27/10/2024 18:35

SouthLondonMum22 · 27/10/2024 18:22

A child can be just as engrossed in a book as the next child can be an iPad.

Quite possibly, but screens are more likely to trigger dopamine release making them far more addictive

Allfur · 27/10/2024 18:37

BusyCaz · 27/10/2024 17:36

lol i was clapping the wit 👸

I'm not sure it was meant to be witty, just factual

SouthLondonMum22 · 27/10/2024 18:42

Allfur · 27/10/2024 18:35

Quite possibly, but screens are more likely to trigger dopamine release making them far more addictive

Which is why parents should limit screen time. It doesn’t make screens the devil.

People tend to relax more on holiday and allow some rules to relax, screen time is likely going to be one of those rules.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 27/10/2024 18:55

User14March · 27/10/2024 16:56

@EilonwyWithRedGoldHair best Mum
of year award for the introduction of Mousehole Cat! Which will be tip of iceberg I know re: reading material ;)

He loved the Mousehole Cat book so much, I struggle to read (or watch it) without crying. My mam made up a whole series of further adventures for the cat (and her children) that she used to tell him.

I read to him from when he was born, first books were Edward Lear's nonsense rhymes and Roverrandom by Tolkien. When he was older he loved The Hobbit and The Wind in the Willows.

He won't let me read to him now, which is a shame, the last books I read him were the Harry Potter books and His Dark Materials and we'd started on The Dark is Rising books when he lost interest. He doesn't read books unfortunately, he's autistic and his special interests at the moment don't include reading.

I hope when he's older he'll pick up reading again, or perhaps try audiobooks. I think he'd prefer non-fiction, something like The Ancestor's Tale by Richard Dawkins would be something he might enjoy - we've talked about it as a possibility for the future!

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 27/10/2024 19:01

Allfur · 27/10/2024 17:25

Books and screens are not really comparable

Are they not in that example? Children walking round not looking where they're going isn't great, whether it's because they're looking at a screen or reading a book.

At least one of the times I was reading The Lord of the Rings so I can't blame myself for not wanting to put it down, but is it really that different to my son playing Geometry Dash?

NeelyOHara1 · 27/10/2024 19:07

It can't be good for their eyes at such young ages?

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User14March · 27/10/2024 19:17

@EilonwyWithRedGoldHair he’ll remember all you’ve shared & your discussions. Love the ‘further adventures’ :)

Lil876 · 27/10/2024 19:19

I don't think anybody can judge screentime unless they have seen the whole day or possibly weeks parenting. Screens themselves aren't bad, overuse of screens and certain things that can be accessed on them are. Yes they're not as enriching as say playing outdoors but that doesn't mean 30 minutes here and there is going to be detrimental to development, cause an addiction/behaviors issues or a speech delay.

My almost 2.5 year old can sit in a restaurant for a good 45 minutes - first talking, then eating. After that he gets restless and sometimes we may get another 15 - 30 minutes from a book, toy or engaging with somebody who's been at the other end of the table. Then he gets a screen until we're done - usually videos of himself or his cousins but sometimes things like number blocks or farmer ted. I don't know why PP's think me (or anybody else) explaining how we use screen time means I know it's shit parenting as I don't believe it is!

We went for a meal today and it pretty much followed the above pattern and the little screentime at the end also meant we also enjoyed our meal! We'd been outside all morning with friends and he's played all afternoon since being home. He's not been harmed by the 20 - 30 minutes of screen time he got at lunch.

motherofbabydragon · 27/10/2024 19:19

@AmICrazyToEvenBother what if extended family is abroad? not introduce the child to family until they are past toddler age and able to be seen but not heard?

aesoplover · 27/10/2024 19:22

Errors · 27/10/2024 18:34

People really are falling over themselves to excuse it. In many cases, the very reasons people are using screens are exacerbated by excessive screen use!

Meaning what?

Errors · 27/10/2024 19:35

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No, the point is with the amount of children who have screens in this situation, they cannot all have SEN

SunnyHappyPeople · 27/10/2024 19:49

AgainandagainandagainSS · 27/10/2024 08:27

You’re not old fashioned. You are a decent parent.
Screen free family here - kids are young so they don’t need them. We talk, play card games, they can do a sticker book but they won’t ever get to look at a phone or iPad until they need them for school and that is a good 6 years away.

🙄

Onand · 27/10/2024 20:07

Errors · 27/10/2024 19:35

No, the point is with the amount of children who have screens in this situation, they cannot all have SEN

Exactly this.

PassingStranger · 27/10/2024 20:07

Brefugee · 27/10/2024 14:09

you talk to people in medical waiting rooms? you're the one nobody wants to sit next to, aren't you?

Grow up. Your comment says alot about you. Your happy to chat to a stranger online and berate them, but you wouldn't think of talking to anyone in real life that you hadn't been introduced too.😱

HRTQueen · 27/10/2024 20:11

if parent/s have been dealing with moaning demanding whining children all day I don’t blame them for allowing the iPad/phone to keep them amused quiet

But for myself personally don’t really notice other children as I am so focused on my own ds and our fascinating conversations that we always have at the dinner table