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To not let 13 year old have TT or SC

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Yope · 26/10/2024 22:14

I'm really against it.
He's 13, school year 8.
Everything in me says don't let him have these yet. Nor Instagram.
He's got WhstsApp. That's enough. He doesn't need social media at his age.
The way I see it is, the more of this stuff they have on their phones , the more they will be exposed to and the more social shit they'll have to deal with.
But he's getting mocked for it by mates.
A lot.
And this morning I saw a message sent from a mutual friend to another mutual friend with a crying laughing emoji and a piss taking comment about my DS not being allowed to have SM.
I'm not saying never.
I'm just saying not yet.
AIBU?

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Hoglet70 · 26/10/2024 23:11

shuggles · 26/10/2024 22:59

Ideally, no human with a functioning brain would have "Tik Tok" or "Snap chat."

But he's getting mocked for it by mates. A lot.

Sorry, he's being mocked for not using apps designed for teenage girls...?

I'm very old and everyone I work with is on Snapchat. It's a bit of fun.

Opentooffers · 26/10/2024 23:12

I'd say it very much depends on the child, so know your child. Some can be fine with it, some are more impressionable than others. My DS has not had any issues, though its known some have, I dont deny bad things can happen. Talking to any unknown person on any SM platform is never a good idea. If they don't understand this, don't let them use it. If bullying has happened prior at school, might be best put off for as long as possible.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 26/10/2024 23:12

User100000000000 · 26/10/2024 22:34

Smartphonefreechildhood.co.uk

Like the hundreds of thousands of other parents who've done this, I've signed the above pact to delay smartphones until year 9

Yes! If we all do it, they won’t be missing out will they…

StSwithinsDay · 26/10/2024 23:12

A poster on another thread this evening describes her job as a safeguarding lead in a school - her day is filled with dealing with children who have posted nude photographs.

StressedQueen · 26/10/2024 23:12

shuggles · 26/10/2024 22:59

Ideally, no human with a functioning brain would have "Tik Tok" or "Snap chat."

But he's getting mocked for it by mates. A lot.

Sorry, he's being mocked for not using apps designed for teenage girls...?

I don't think it is specifically for teenage girls

shuggles · 26/10/2024 23:13

StSwithinsDay · 26/10/2024 22:35

@SummerFeverVenice
No I don't.
They use every single platform that will allow them access to children. But parents seem unable or unwilling to not give their children smartphones. So yes, the predators will always win.

Social media is not specific to smartphones, and indeed social media predates the first smartphone.

I am always confused when social media and the internet as a whole are used interchangeably with smartphones. Loads of people message each other from their computers. I never used a mobile phone growing up, but it was very easily to communicate with loads of other people online from a computer.

StSwithinsDay · 26/10/2024 23:13

@Hoglet70
You are lucky you are very old. You are not the target market of peadophiles.

NoisyDenimShaker · 26/10/2024 23:13

What's TT?

StressedQueen · 26/10/2024 23:14

NoisyDenimShaker · 26/10/2024 23:13

What's TT?

Tiktok

Hoglet70 · 26/10/2024 23:14

StSwithinsDay · 26/10/2024 23:13

@Hoglet70
You are lucky you are very old. You are not the target market of peadophiles.

Nobody knows how old I am.My profile picture is my cat.

VivianLea · 26/10/2024 23:14

shuggles · 26/10/2024 22:59

Ideally, no human with a functioning brain would have "Tik Tok" or "Snap chat."

But he's getting mocked for it by mates. A lot.

Sorry, he's being mocked for not using apps designed for teenage girls...?

are teenage girls somehow inferior to teenage boys?

But OP, you are doing the right thing. "It's bad but OP other kids will mock him " is just lazy parenting.

TruJay · 26/10/2024 23:15

My almost 15 year old doesn’t have any social media. He didn’t have a phone until he was almost 13 either. Our reasoning was because he was mercilessly bullied all through primary and having a phone would have just been another way for the bullying to continue outside of school too.

Confirmed that was the right decision when the police were called into the school and his classroom about the ‘class WhatsApp’ and the threats and bullying on there etc and he was able to leave the room while the police dealt with it as he was the only child not in the group.
He’s never asked for any social media even now he has a phone.

I wouldn’t allow SC because of the disappearing messages and have heard TT is awful.
I really like Instagram but even on there there’s some inappropriate stuff for kids if you go looking for it. I suppose it depends on how you think your child would use it. I think a compromise could be reached if the poor lad really wants it and he is being made fun of due to not having it.

Edenmum2 · 26/10/2024 23:15

SummerFeverVenice · 26/10/2024 22:25

Great so for fear of him being mocked on social media you are implementing some weirdo standard of WhatsApp is ok but anything else is not ok leading to him being mocked on social media. A spectacular backfire in parenting that is. You have caused that which you are trying to protect him from. Perhaps you should trust him to know how to navigate teen friendship groups? Novel idea isn’t it?

Jeez what got your goat? Snapchat and WhatsApp are completely different beasts, kids are much more open to dodgy situations on Snapchat and it's much harder to monitor, even with parental controls etc.

Plus your vindictiveness and mockery is totally unnecessary

StSwithinsDay · 26/10/2024 23:15

@shuggles
Fair point. So parents who give their todders tablets also need to be savvy.
Alexander McCartney coerced 10 and 12 year old children to send him sexual images of their 4 year old siblings.

pinkroses79 · 26/10/2024 23:16

My children and their friends all use snapchat. I have never been on it and know little about it, but I do know it's where they all communicate. My youngest is older than 13, but has definitely had snapchat for a few years. I haven't ever stopped them having anything like that, if they want to access something they will do it regardless if you allow it or not. All they would need to do is delete it from their phone when you are looking and how would you know?

SummerFeverVenice · 26/10/2024 23:16

StSwithinsDay · 26/10/2024 23:10

@FunnysInLaJardin
Millions of children have not been taught. They are handed phones with no restrictions. And are left to suffer the consequences.

That is the parenting fail- not teaching kids internet and SM smarts. Don’t blame the smartphone, computer, pad or PS/DS, blame the parents for being too lazy to teach kids internet & SM safety.

shuggles · 26/10/2024 23:16

Hoglet70 · 26/10/2024 23:14

Nobody knows how old I am.My profile picture is my cat.

Your username would indicate that you are 53 or 54 years old.

Samandytimlucypeterolivia · 26/10/2024 23:17

Dd has Snapchat, tik tok and what’s app, they are closely monitored, her tik tok is private so only friends can see it. I told her she’s not having Instagram just yet. Soon probably… I don’t think too many of her friends have it yet so it’s not causing too much aggro. She’s currently not allowed her phone in the bedroom after 10, so I do spot checks to make sure nothing untoward is going on.

Hoglet70 · 26/10/2024 23:17

Erm.. my Mumsnet user name is absolutely not anything like any of my real life usernames!

StSwithinsDay · 26/10/2024 23:17

@@SummerFeverVenice
You would think so. But you see it all the time on MN - checking a child or teenagers phone is 'invading their privacy'.

greyfoxy · 26/10/2024 23:18

Oh my goodness why would you put your son into a situation where he is mocked? This will shape him for life - and not in a good way! Why not spend your energies talking to him and educating in proper use and to recognise harmful situations. Unfortunately life isn't about pretending these things don't exist!

FunnysInLaJardin · 26/10/2024 23:18

SummerFeverVenice · 26/10/2024 23:16

That is the parenting fail- not teaching kids internet and SM smarts. Don’t blame the smartphone, computer, pad or PS/DS, blame the parents for being too lazy to teach kids internet & SM safety.

schools teach this shit regularly, they have the police in, safeguarding folk in. Kids are far more savvy and clever than we give them credit for.

Its the adults who are afraid as they dont understand it, the kids on the whole are all over this

StSwithinsDay · 26/10/2024 23:18

@pinkroses79
Probably when the police ring you to tell you that your child has sent sexual images of themselves to nonces.

VivianLea · 26/10/2024 23:19

FunnysInLaJardin · 26/10/2024 23:06

Which is utter luddite nonsense

It's luddite nonsense to not give preteens phones? Why?

FunnysInLaJardin · 26/10/2024 23:19

StSwithinsDay · 26/10/2024 23:17

@@SummerFeverVenice
You would think so. But you see it all the time on MN - checking a child or teenagers phone is 'invading their privacy'.

it is

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