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Should I return to relationship with Ex-DP?

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3LemonsAndLime · 26/10/2024 08:26

I am (nervously!) back for more advice. Last time posting about this issue was a bit challenging, but there was some very helpful perspectives and advice among the responses, so I am returning for further advice.

My first thread is here, for background: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5057874-aibu-to-not-fund-ex-partners-children

Since then, things have moved on a bit. Ex-DP’s ex-wife asked to have the bedroom furniture from the children’s rooms at my house, I assumed to upgrade the furniture at her home or to go to Ex-DP’s new place or storage, depending on his ultimate plans. I agreed and she came to collect it. It turns out she wanted it to sell, with the money going to fund the trip one of their children was going on. I felt a bit funny on hearing that news, but ultimately I wanted the furniture gone and realise with that comes not having a say in how the next person chooses to use it.

I also ended up writing a goodbye card to each of the children with a generous gift voucher in each - one for books (as we shared a love of reading and used to go to bookstores and the library together) and the other for lessons/paraphernalia in the sport they do. I told ex-DP I was going to do this, and gave them to ex-DP’s ex-wife when she came to collect the furniture.

Recently (so about 4 months after all this), I was watching my nieces play sport for their school team with my sister and ex-DP was there watching one DC also play (different teams, different ages, they don’t usually play at the same time, this was an unusual schedule change). We had a mutual sideline, so he came over and spoke to us and we watch the games side by side. At the conclusion of the game his DC came over, said hello and were happy to see me. This was brief, as we all needed to leave and clear the field for the next set of games.

Since then, I ran into Ex-DP again at a mutual friend’s birthday drinks, and we chatted. He asked me about resuming the relationship, or to start again by dating and seeing how things go. He says it could be like the first 2 years, where we didn’t live together and the children didn’t live here, but we dated, spent nights at each others homes, and had weekend and holidays away. His contact with the children would be during his own time, and he says we could look long term at re-introducing things, if we both wanted too, but the important thing would be to focus on us right now and not throw away that, due to some difficult teenage years. He asked to meet for coffee this week to discuss it further.

I’m unsure whether to meet again or what to do. Turning it over in my mind, the idea has some merit. I miss him, and our relationship. It is not easy to find someone you get on with so well, and who can support themselves (yes, I do earn a considerable amount more than him, but he still earns well above a average). However it’s not lost on me that he has not found his own accommodation and is still living with his parents. So I feel like this means whilst any dates or meals or activities ‘out’ would be out and about, any time ‘at home’ (dinners, nights in, weekends etc) would be spent at my home, not his. We have too much history to spend months in the activities ‘out’ dating stage for long, it feels like he would effectively be stealthily moving back in, albeit, spending time back at his parents with the children or when needed.

He absolutely denies this, and says it would be dating, weekends away and only moving at a pace we are both comfortable with. He said he wants to listen to me, and work through it, as we should have done originally.

I’m not sure what to think. I miss him. But the end was so unpleasant, and I’m not sure if he means it, or if this is just softening me up? Or even if what he is suggesting would work or be fair to him and the children.

I’d appreciate thoughts, as I can’t view this very objectively right now.

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OP posts:
Londonrach1 · 26/10/2024 08:31

I think you are right that you cant go back 2 years and just date but live separately as the history is still there. Only you know in your gut if you want to get back with him. However the reasons you split up will still always be there.

Catsbreakfast · 26/10/2024 08:41

That whole family saw you coming miles away. Of course he wants to get back with you, he had a ready made nest right there.

Justsayit123 · 26/10/2024 08:44

Do not go back. He had it easy with as your were being taken for a ride. The problems have t gone away. Move on. Don’t be a mug.

sparepantsandtoothbrush · 26/10/2024 08:52

What has the ex wife selling the furniture or you giving them vouchers got to do with it?

But no you shouldn't go back there. You gave the relationship up for valid reasons and he's not going to have changed. You'll just end up back in the same situation of you paying for everything

Noseybookworm · 26/10/2024 08:55

The problem with his children's behaviour towards you haven't gone away though and will still impact you further down the line. Your Ex and his children's mother seem to think it's your job to finance their children which is unacceptable. Don't go backwards OP, don't allow anxiety about being alone to influence your decision. You ended the relationship for a reason. I think your Ex DP is realising he was onto a good thing with you financially and wants to worm his way back in. Try and cut contact with him and move on with your life.

Razzlefrazzle · 26/10/2024 08:55

Please carefully reread your opening post from your previous thread. Do you seriously want to expose yourself to that level of disrespect all over again?

Would he want you back if you weren't such a high earner? I'm sorry OP but I suspect the answer would be 'no'

I know it's hard to not be sucked back in by the promise of change but you have come so far please don't throw that away.

FabulousPharmacyst · 26/10/2024 08:58

why would you even think it a good idea to give her furniture from your house in the first place

Hoardasurass · 26/10/2024 08:58

Sorry @3LemonsAndLime but he just wants his meal ticket back.
He's realised quite how good he had with you, free holidays, nice big house for his kids and a live in maid, chef, cleaner and all the rest.
Now he's expected to provide all of that for him and his kids himself now he wants you back 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
Please see him for what he is and tell to jog on

Singleandproud · 26/10/2024 09:04

I think it is best never to revisit old relationships no matter the good points they may have had. It will never be the same as starting a fresh with someone new. The children may behave better with someone new but they will revert to their old ways with you just like your bf will revert to old ways.

You are incredibly kind and generous and I feel you are being massively taken advantage of by this family. The ex wife's behaviour with the furniture proves that, convenient because you want it gone but really weird regardless. They see you as a cash cow and as soon as you step back into that world it will start again. You might not see the children but he'll talk about them and soon it'll be "little Araminta is due to go on a big overseas school trip, it's terribly expensive and she's doing a sponsored walk, how much should I put you down for?" Etc.

BloominNora · 26/10/2024 09:05

I was all for saying go for it, in terms of dating, but put some conditions in place first like it not happening until he gets his own place.

But then I read your earlier thread and hell no!

The way he treated you when you met up for that final coffee was appalling and the emotional bribery with bringing the kids and the video was awful (and borderline emotionally abusive to you and the kids).

My advice would be to stay far, far away.

But...I'm just a stranger on the Internet- what I would really do in your shoes is talk it through with your awesome sister and BIL as they know you, him and the detail of what happened and they sound like they are really sensible and supportive.

OMGsamesame · 26/10/2024 09:07

Your gut is correct - he's warming you up, he hasn't found his own place, why isn't he focused on parenting his children if they're going through such a difficult period?

jeaux90 · 26/10/2024 09:08

OP I'm pretty sure he misses you more than you miss him.

I remember your other thread, totally appalled at the way you were treated.

Don't mistake feeling lonely as a sign you should go back to him, surely you felt relief after it was over?

3LemonsAndLime · 26/10/2024 09:11

Thanks for the responses.

To answer questions, @sparepantsandtoothbrush I suppose the comments on the furniture and the vouchers were just loose ends from my previous thread that I thought I would include to tie up. I agree they don’t have anything to do with the question today and I could have left that out.

@FabulousPharmacyst I was happy to give the furniture away - as I said in my previous thread, I bought it specifically for the children, for their own rooms when they moved in (well, EOW). I have no need for it and would have been selling or giving it away anyway. I thought it was win-win - I got the furniture out of the house and the rooms back without the hassle of selling or months of the furniture sitting there making me feel terrible, and they go to keep nice furniture and bedding etc.

I guess with hindsight, I think I could have behaved better at the end. Perhaps by giving him money to re-establish himself or alternatively by making it clearer if we ever split he would be leaving the house I own and need money to finance accommodation/his life. Although I thought this was self explanatory for every person, and I’m not sure how I could have said it without sounding condescending or perhaps even like I was threatening to kick him out. But I accept some blame for this. I’m wondering had I done so, then he may have not been so money focused at the end. And if I am overlooking all his good qualities (hard to find) and just focusing on this.

I realise people are saying they may have thought of me as a cash cow, and I accept and see this. But I didn’t feel like that when we were together. Everything I gave or paid for was because I wanted too and was happy to do so. I’ve thought about it, and that isn’t taken advantage - when I want to pay it - is it? And I can’t not have the money I earn. And I wouldn’t want to sit back and only spend it on myself and not on the partner I had or his DC at appropriate times. As I said in my last thread, I’m not flashy about the money. I do a lot quietly to secure the financial position of family and quietly gift friends in low key ways and am happy to do so. I just didn’t like the idea that someone else had ideas for spending my money. But maybe I wasn’t fair, as he adjusted his spending to his new (lesser) outgoings.

I’m really not sure. But everyone on this thread so far is, which is telling, I suppose.

OP posts:
BeeCucumber · 26/10/2024 09:13

Please don’t go back to him. Nothing has changed - except he is no longer draining your resources. He still hasn’t found a place to live. He still sees you as the cash cow and expects you to pick up from where you left off and start paying for everything again. Of course he wants to meet for coffee and try to sweet talk you back into a relationship. He is a predator. He sees your vulnerability. Don’t be a fool.

FoldedClothes · 26/10/2024 09:19

I don’t think you can remove your comfortable financial circumstances from the scenario, or exclude them from why he wants to get back with you. I think you’d ne stepping back into the exact same issues that made you end things.

Hoardasurass · 26/10/2024 09:19

@3LemonsAndLime he's abused your good nature and generosity for years, in doing so hes conditioned you into thinking that the financial abuse you've endured is normal it's not.
Can I suggest that you think about doing the freedom program before you consider getting back into this abusive relationship

Wholelotagrey · 26/10/2024 09:27

I read your original post at the time and didn’t comment as you had a lot of advice. However, Please for the love of god do not go back to this man or relationship.

Greywarden · 26/10/2024 09:30

I remember your original thread well OP.
Of course you must do what you think is right and I can see why you might want to give this a try.
My caution to you is to remember how your ex-DP reacted to your previous split. I recall that he really disregarded your feelings and insisted you had responsibilities and obligations that you didn't agree with. Tried to emotionally blackmail you to have a family conversation with him and his kids. Got them to record a video message to you which seemed to me like an exceptionally manipulative move. And that's to say nothing of his shocking criticism of you breaking up with him and therefore disrupting his financial plans.
Is this a man who respects your decisions and boundaries? Can he learn to do so?

3LemonsAndLime · 26/10/2024 09:33

@jeaux90 I did feel relief when it was over. The to-and-fro ing at the end was awful and I felt quite physically ill on receiving texts and messages from him. I just wanted him to accept the decision and agree to arrangements for the end, not to keep up the emotional turmoil.

But I do miss him. And, apart from the difficult times with the children (which he is offering solutions for) we got on well and I never felt money was an issue between us. Yes, as I said before, I knew he was on a ‘good deal’ with me as I paid for more, but this was to protect my financial interests (home etc). (Indeed - some people in the last thread felt that I was unfair for having the house solely in my name and keeping it as mine, so minds do differ!)

Presumably if we did work things out, he would be more conscious of this and not spend all his income and build himself a separate pool of savings? Or buy a house? I’d be very supportive of both.

It is also hard to find someone you get on well with and who doesn’t have children or some other issues of their own (debt/MH/ anything!) The same thing could happen with someone else.

I’m also not perfect. I’m wondering if this was something we could have worked through.

But the ugliness of the end is still in my mind.

@BloominNora I am meeting my sister for coffee today and had intended to bring this up. I’ll see what she thinks, although everyone is pretty clear this is a bad idea. I’ll think on it and decide after nice spoken to DSis.

Thank you everyone.

OP posts:
SauviGone · 26/10/2024 09:33

He’s done nothing but fester at his parents house since you kicked him out.

He’s made no effort to secure accommodation where he can have his children overnight, despite earning “well above average”.

Why do you think that is?

Bornnotbourne · 26/10/2024 09:35

I’m going to sound rude but if you don’t want to be treated like a cash cow then stop acting like one. No more vouchers or giving them anything. He should be wining and dining you…. But he won’t. He is a user and you deserve so much more.

TwentyBillion · 26/10/2024 09:36

I've not read your original thread but the fact he's still living at his parents after 2 years is a big NO from me!

What would have long term in 10-15 years ? Of course he'd eventually move back in with you. Then not only kids problems but grandkids!

No way! You're his pension plan!!!

Gabbyghoul · 26/10/2024 09:38

Oh my god it's this guy!

I remember your previous thread when you specifically said not to bring the children to speak to you and he did it twice!

No way. He's a selfish manipulative man who has zero respect for your boundaries and treated you as a cash cow to fund his children's lives.

NO!

TwentyBillion · 26/10/2024 09:40

Just read your original post! Good grief OP don't do it!!!

Horatiostrumpet · 26/10/2024 09:41

I'd go and check you haven't got "mug" stamped on your forehead because you're acting like one.

He wants a nice place to stay and someone to pay for all the extra treats in life for him and his DC.

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