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Should I return to relationship with Ex-DP?

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3LemonsAndLime · 26/10/2024 08:26

I am (nervously!) back for more advice. Last time posting about this issue was a bit challenging, but there was some very helpful perspectives and advice among the responses, so I am returning for further advice.

My first thread is here, for background: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5057874-aibu-to-not-fund-ex-partners-children

Since then, things have moved on a bit. Ex-DP’s ex-wife asked to have the bedroom furniture from the children’s rooms at my house, I assumed to upgrade the furniture at her home or to go to Ex-DP’s new place or storage, depending on his ultimate plans. I agreed and she came to collect it. It turns out she wanted it to sell, with the money going to fund the trip one of their children was going on. I felt a bit funny on hearing that news, but ultimately I wanted the furniture gone and realise with that comes not having a say in how the next person chooses to use it.

I also ended up writing a goodbye card to each of the children with a generous gift voucher in each - one for books (as we shared a love of reading and used to go to bookstores and the library together) and the other for lessons/paraphernalia in the sport they do. I told ex-DP I was going to do this, and gave them to ex-DP’s ex-wife when she came to collect the furniture.

Recently (so about 4 months after all this), I was watching my nieces play sport for their school team with my sister and ex-DP was there watching one DC also play (different teams, different ages, they don’t usually play at the same time, this was an unusual schedule change). We had a mutual sideline, so he came over and spoke to us and we watch the games side by side. At the conclusion of the game his DC came over, said hello and were happy to see me. This was brief, as we all needed to leave and clear the field for the next set of games.

Since then, I ran into Ex-DP again at a mutual friend’s birthday drinks, and we chatted. He asked me about resuming the relationship, or to start again by dating and seeing how things go. He says it could be like the first 2 years, where we didn’t live together and the children didn’t live here, but we dated, spent nights at each others homes, and had weekend and holidays away. His contact with the children would be during his own time, and he says we could look long term at re-introducing things, if we both wanted too, but the important thing would be to focus on us right now and not throw away that, due to some difficult teenage years. He asked to meet for coffee this week to discuss it further.

I’m unsure whether to meet again or what to do. Turning it over in my mind, the idea has some merit. I miss him, and our relationship. It is not easy to find someone you get on with so well, and who can support themselves (yes, I do earn a considerable amount more than him, but he still earns well above a average). However it’s not lost on me that he has not found his own accommodation and is still living with his parents. So I feel like this means whilst any dates or meals or activities ‘out’ would be out and about, any time ‘at home’ (dinners, nights in, weekends etc) would be spent at my home, not his. We have too much history to spend months in the activities ‘out’ dating stage for long, it feels like he would effectively be stealthily moving back in, albeit, spending time back at his parents with the children or when needed.

He absolutely denies this, and says it would be dating, weekends away and only moving at a pace we are both comfortable with. He said he wants to listen to me, and work through it, as we should have done originally.

I’m not sure what to think. I miss him. But the end was so unpleasant, and I’m not sure if he means it, or if this is just softening me up? Or even if what he is suggesting would work or be fair to him and the children.

I’d appreciate thoughts, as I can’t view this very objectively right now.

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OP posts:
pinkyredrose · 26/10/2024 11:49

You split up for a reason. If you start seeing him again he'll eventually want to move in and you'll end up back where you started.

titchy · 26/10/2024 11:49

Of course, that could be unfair. He could have wanted to reach out and been waiting for a better time, or when he had his own place, but when opportunity presented itself, he made the most of it

The fact that it's been two years, and he only got in touch when he saw you, suggests this is not the case. If he'd wanted you, he would have got his own place. He doesn't really want you. He wants the lifestyle that you bring.

3LemonsAndLime · 26/10/2024 11:55

Just to be clear, as two people have mentioned it, it has been 6 months since we broke up (April at the time of the other thread) and he has been living with his parents since then. Some people have incorrectly thought it has been 2 years.

I’m meeting my sister now, so will step away from the thread, and talk to her. I haven’t told her I’ve been lonely, but she’s pretty perceptive (as shown in the other thread). I can see it is a pretty clear consensus from here that I shouldn’t consider it, or at least I should tell him he needs to set himself up independently first, and then consider approaching me. Apart from the odd poster who thinks I was completely unreasonable in not putting up with the behaviour and should have been paying out for trips I never agreed too.

OP posts:
Startinganew32 · 26/10/2024 11:59

3LemonsAndLime · 26/10/2024 11:43

@Ponoka7 ’s post has made me find my anger about this. I bought the children all new furniture and bedding for their rooms here, had them painted in the colour of their choosing as a welcome present. I bought them books and shoes and treats here and there and paid for holidays. I also replaced my television and a window when one of them threw a glass at it/that direction, as they didn’t want to turn the television off and sit at the table when their father called them for their grandfather’s birthday dinner (Ex-DH’s father). I didn’t want to share their behaviour (and won’t add anymore) as I want them to get through these years and grow into lovely, confident, young adults, but @Ponoka7 you don’t know the half of it, and clearly haven’t even read my posts properly before drawing incorrect conclusions that paint me in a bad light.

Pretty shocking behaviour. Why do you want to go back to him when his children are like this? You’re just going to be resentful unless you agree to only see him when he doesn’t have his kids.

HebburnPokemon · 26/10/2024 12:00

I remember your thread OP. Please DON'T get back with this man. If anything, he should get back with his ex - they both seem equal grabby chancers.

OP, you only get one life. Don't waste your prime on this man. The drama doesn't end when the kids reach 18.

I understand you're lonely. You WILL meet a better man. Please be patient and block this one.

HebburnPokemon · 26/10/2024 12:02

You’re just going to be resentful unless you agree to only see him when he doesn’t have his kids.

Exactly, and why settle for such a piecemeal relationship

MyHouseIsABusStop · 26/10/2024 12:05

Enjoy your coffee with your sister OP, she sounds just as lovely, fabulous and level headed as you and I've no doubt she will say very much the same as everyone on this thread x

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 26/10/2024 12:17

Do not go back. Onwards a d upwards!

buttonsB4 · 26/10/2024 12:18

I guarantee your ex will have been on the dating apps in the last six months, and do you know what he would have found? That men in his position don't have ladies queuing round the block to date them.

He lives at home with his parents. 🚩

He isn't a particularly involved father, seeing his kids only EOW 🚩

Those kids are "going through a difficult stage"🚩

The previous holidays and lifestyle that he had (& possibly has photos of on social media) was funded by his ex (cocklodger alert 🚨) 🚩

Despite his ex funding much of his life over the last few years, he has limited savings to provide a home for himself or his DC 🚩

Furthermore, if he has managed to get any dates, he wouldn't have been able to invite them back to his place and lots of women (especially mothers) don't take a new fella back to theirs, so he probably hasn't got laid since you split.

You are the easy option in terms of sex, housing, lifestyle etc.

But you don't want to be (nor should you be) someone's easiest option; you want a partner, an equal and this man isn't that.

Please believe that you deserve better, you honestly do.

RedWinePoliticsAndHair · 26/10/2024 12:18

@3LemonsAndLime another one who was going to advise you to do it if you felt it was the right thing... until I read your original thread. Having read the original thread my advice is now FUCK THAT. I can't believe the cheek of this man and his ex wife. He's got pound signs in his eyes running into you again (and did he run into you, or did he make sure he would run into you?!) and I cannot believe that the ex wife took that furniture and SOLD IT!!!!!!!! And you let her?!??

I'm going to say it again: FUCK THAT. Change your number. Change your name. Move house. You need to make sure that this chancer is never able to get back near you again.

Ohnobackagain · 26/10/2024 12:19

@3LemonsAndLime he needs to sort out his own accommodation before you even consider this. Six months is no time either. Definitely don’t do it now and maybe not ever. And let him sort himself out.

Edited because I meant to say - I would stay away but I know it’s hard. If you do get re-involved, make it much less inter-twined. Don’t move in with each other.

Fourfurrymonsters · 26/10/2024 12:22

This is a man that told you - TOLD YOU - that your responsibilities and obligations to him and his kids didn’t end because you wanted out of the relationship. And asked you for a payoff, despite the fact he’s a high earner and benefited from huge cost savings while he was living with you. The absolute audacity of him.
And who still after 6 MONTHS, hasn’t found accomodation for himself and the kids that are apparently going through a really rough time, despite that high earner thing 🤨
I’d echo pp’s…if you really feel you can’t launch this guy into the nearest bin, which you absolutely should, then tell him you will only consider seeing him again when he’s properly set up as a financially independent, fully functioning adult with his own home. That way he cannot just inveigle his way back into “ah well we can’t watch a movie or have sex at my parents so I might just as well stay the night/weekend/for all time and I’ll bring the kids at yours”.
Because right now, you absolutely cannot trust that he’s not just saying all the right things to hook you back to where you were before.

JFDIYOLO · 26/10/2024 12:22

He earns a good wage

He lived with you and avoided mortgage/rent

He now lives with his parents.

So what is he doing with his money? Where does it go?

TheShellBeach · 26/10/2024 12:25

The biggest red flag in the enormous row of them is that he asked you for, and felt entitled to a sum of money when you split up.

🚩🚩🚩

pinkyredrose · 26/10/2024 12:26

Fourfurrymonsters · 26/10/2024 12:22

This is a man that told you - TOLD YOU - that your responsibilities and obligations to him and his kids didn’t end because you wanted out of the relationship. And asked you for a payoff, despite the fact he’s a high earner and benefited from huge cost savings while he was living with you. The absolute audacity of him.
And who still after 6 MONTHS, hasn’t found accomodation for himself and the kids that are apparently going through a really rough time, despite that high earner thing 🤨
I’d echo pp’s…if you really feel you can’t launch this guy into the nearest bin, which you absolutely should, then tell him you will only consider seeing him again when he’s properly set up as a financially independent, fully functioning adult with his own home. That way he cannot just inveigle his way back into “ah well we can’t watch a movie or have sex at my parents so I might just as well stay the night/weekend/for all time and I’ll bring the kids at yours”.
Because right now, you absolutely cannot trust that he’s not just saying all the right things to hook you back to where you were before.

Agree with all of this.

Clarinet1 · 26/10/2024 12:28

Women on MN are often advised to keep an emergency fund when they move in with a DP - the fact that he did not do so is not the OPs problem!

Quitelikeit · 26/10/2024 12:35

Op

you have done nothing wrong! You have been very kind & generous to that man and his offspring

all you asked for was respect and I’m so proud of you for your brave decision to end things when you could take no more!

If you really wanted him back you could stipulate the children would not be going back to your home and also that he gets his own place?

I don’t know what happened with the furniture but it sounds like they asked if they could have it? (So embarrassing I wouldn’t dare!)

nutbrownhare15 · 26/10/2024 12:40

Having re read your original post, don't do it. Anyone who could treat you like that could do it again.

Davros · 26/10/2024 12:40

Stop blaming yourself for his financial expectations and telling yourself that you could have given him some money or made some financial gift. He needs to get himself his own home before he does anything else.
I suspect he believes what he is saying to you, which is why it is hard to resist, but it's in his interests to believe his own BS. Also, telling you that his kids behaviour was "normal" or "typical" and you needed to understand that and accept it. That is just gaslighting.
I don't think you should get back together with him.

Maddy70 · 26/10/2024 12:45

Sod it. Life is too short. You miss him. Give it a go. The worst that will happen is you will be where you are now

Have a great time

TheShellBeach · 26/10/2024 12:47

Maddy70 · 26/10/2024 12:45

Sod it. Life is too short. You miss him. Give it a go. The worst that will happen is you will be where you are now

Have a great time

Well that's remarkably unhelpful.
Did you bother to read the previous thread?

BoundaryLine · 26/10/2024 12:49

2Little · 26/10/2024 11:39

No one more in love than a man wanting accommodation.

This

LePetitMaman · 26/10/2024 12:55

Catsbreakfast · 26/10/2024 08:41

That whole family saw you coming miles away. Of course he wants to get back with you, he had a ready made nest right there.

Just keep reading this until it sinks in.

I know it's a bitter pill, to know you were being used, and by no means does this mean you have no qualities that a decent person would find attractive.

It's that this particular twat and his not fallen far from the tree children are after the life they can leach from you.

Find a decent man. Because you sound like quite the catch and you are massively doing yourself a disservice with this bunch of parasites.

Hatty65 · 26/10/2024 12:56

Don't, for God's sake, get back with him.

He is still sitting like an overgrown teenager at his parents (whilst they presumably support him) but it was cosier at your house - where you paid for everything and he also got sex and someone to share the burden of his part time parenting, even though they weren't your kids and you had no say in managing their behaviour. You were just the whipping boy.

ALL of the benefits to this relationship were to him. They were minimal for you.

If you are lonely, get a cat. Far less trouble than this manipulative cocklodger and his rude offspring. Far less expensive. And if you do take him back I imagine it will not be longer before he's giving reproachful looks and you are made to feel the villain of the piece for daring to break up with him in the first place. I've never heard of anyone as entitled as he is - believing that you OWED him money because you didn't want to continue supporting him and you wanted to end the relationship.

MissUltraViolet · 26/10/2024 12:57

Oh FFS, I want to shake some sense into you!!

He has a good job, lived with you rent/mortgage free for ages and has been at his parents six months since the split and he still hasn’t managed to secure himself and his children a home? Yeah I bet he wants to give it another go.

I remember the last thread well. I remember that you sounded lovely and kind and this man, his ex and their children took the absolute piss out of you.

I get it, you miss him (or having someone to share your life with) and trying again with him might seem the easier option but you deserve so much more. If none of us or your sister can talk you out of this then at least tell him that until he is set up in his own home and has made sure he and his children are secure in that sense and financially then it’s a no go.

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