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Is this revenge on the OW fair or not?

487 replies

pinkgown · 22/10/2024 02:58

Obviously we don't have the whole story, but would you be tempted to do this, to take revenge on the OW on your mother's behalf? I think I might, if I felt my mother and my family had been torn apart by her actions.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj9j9lpgjxlo

A mugshot of Eleanor Brown - a woman in her early twenties with dark shoulder length hair and blue eyes.

Eleanor Brown jailed for sharing naked photos of father's lover

Eleanor Brown posted the woman's photos on an escort site as an "act of revenge", a court hears.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj9j9lpgjxlo

OP posts:
fragrantdisregard · 22/10/2024 03:59

No excuses for the father, but I wouldn't lose sleep pitying the OW in this case, either.

As a PP has said, children (even adult children) often have trouble viewing their parents objectively. There are many cases where one parent (usually the father) has been convicted of murdering the other parent, yet one or more of their children refuses to accept the overwhelming evidence of guilt. It's too painful. Unwillingness to cut off or otherwise 'punish' their father to the same degree as the OW is the same thing, on a smaller scale.

LittleBitAlexisLaLaLaLaLa · 22/10/2024 04:00

The other woman didn’t deserve this to happen to her, nor did her husband or her teenage daughter who were also dragged into this nasty messy revenge. I feel very sorry for all of them. Especially the young daughter.

The mother and sister should have received the same sentence imo. Especially the mother who dragged her daughters into this instead of either getting over her husband’s affair or ditching him. But instead she stayed, waited several years and then got her daughters involved resulting in one being jailed for a sexual offence and the other one’s career is over. Great mum right there.

mandarindreams · 22/10/2024 04:01

Absolutely not. Setting aside all the other comments about who your anger should really be directed at, this is revenge porn just as much as an ex doing it because of a relationship breakdown.

olympicsrock · 22/10/2024 04:10

The act was very wrong but the sentence was too long.
I have been that angry young woman whose father cheated . I hated the OW ( a family friend) with a vengeance. She wasn’t sorry for tearing my family apart and encouraging my father to abuse my mother.
I sought revenge ( sent junk mail with a horrible ‘nickname’ on ) and shared her number for cold callers about products for the elderly. Nothing sexual .
It was meant to piss them both off . It did and this gave me pleasure.

oakleaffy · 22/10/2024 04:22

euff · 22/10/2024 03:25

Just re read it. The police officer daughter contacting the OW's daughter and threatening her was not okay or fair. She didn't do anything wrong.

The woman in the OP's pic looks hard faced. Not much kindness in that visage.
Dysfunctional as someone else said.

pilates · 22/10/2024 04:28

Completely deranged and look how’s it ended up.

kkloo · 22/10/2024 04:29

fragrantdisregard · 22/10/2024 03:59

No excuses for the father, but I wouldn't lose sleep pitying the OW in this case, either.

As a PP has said, children (even adult children) often have trouble viewing their parents objectively. There are many cases where one parent (usually the father) has been convicted of murdering the other parent, yet one or more of their children refuses to accept the overwhelming evidence of guilt. It's too painful. Unwillingness to cut off or otherwise 'punish' their father to the same degree as the OW is the same thing, on a smaller scale.

For all you know maybe the OW grew up in a home where there was cheating and it was that trauma that caused her to behave in destructive ways by cheating herself!

ItsReallyShitingUp · 22/10/2024 04:32

Men’s prisons are too full from all of the offending men out there, so they get short or no sentences, let out early to let new men in, and so on, They benefit from the collective shittiness of their biological sex.

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 22/10/2024 05:25

If this is the kind of woman the mother is I don’t blame the bloke for cheating.

As much as there are children who are hurt by affairs there are just as many who are destroyed by the bitter ex.

As much as I don’t condone cheating affairs often aren’t black and white.

I know at least two families where the children went to live with the father and the OW and ultimately cut contact with the mother because of her constant need for bitter revenge and her insistence that the dc follow.

And no. Being cheated on isn’t a valid reason. And yes, I have been cheated on.

orangegato · 22/10/2024 05:29

olympicsrock · 22/10/2024 04:10

The act was very wrong but the sentence was too long.
I have been that angry young woman whose father cheated . I hated the OW ( a family friend) with a vengeance. She wasn’t sorry for tearing my family apart and encouraging my father to abuse my mother.
I sought revenge ( sent junk mail with a horrible ‘nickname’ on ) and shared her number for cold callers about products for the elderly. Nothing sexual .
It was meant to piss them both off . It did and this gave me pleasure.

Wow, not your dad who cheated then??? Mind blowing and petty harassment. Sentence not long enough. Blokes conveniently barely impacted…

Sethera · 22/10/2024 05:30

According to the article, the phone number posted on the escort site belonged to the OW's husband (innocent party) and she also send a long, threatening message to the OW's daughter (innocent party) so I don't have much sympathy for her.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 22/10/2024 05:34

Greenfinch7 · 22/10/2024 03:48

@DifficultBloodyWoman I haven't read it all very carefully, but I can say from experience that the damage done to a girl or young woman by her father having an affair can be very profound and very painful. It is natural for her to hate the OW because it is too hard to hate a parent.

Her feelings of hatred may be natural but her actions were not.

As a society, we cannot judge people on their feelings. We do judge them on their actions.

Tigerlily19 · 22/10/2024 05:38

It’s absolutely right that this kind of offence is taken very seriously, I think the issue is that many other sex crimes are not treated with this same level of severity.

The thing that I can’t get my head around is when and how did she get these images in the first place?? She must have been around 12 when the affair took place, it seems like she was completely drawn into the fallout of the affair. Of course it’s impossible for a child not to impacted by a parental affair, but she absolutely did not need to know this level of detail. Seems incredibly dysfunctional.

Thebackofthenorthwind · 22/10/2024 05:38

I find it hard to believe a woman would do this to another woman

The irony!

I don't subscribe to the MN view that it is all the man's fault. It takes two, they are jointly guilty. I can't find any real sympathy for the OW.
But the OW's daughter and her husband were innocent and shouldn't have been targeted too, that was hateful. The defendant shows a lack of empathy in being unable to see they were as hurt by the affair as she was.

AngelicKaty · 22/10/2024 05:48

OP, YABU for even considering doing something which is against the law and as this woman has found out, will put you in prison. Posting nude photo's of someone on a public forum is against the law for good reason. It's reprehensible regardless of an offender's "justification" for doing it.

Wordsmithery · 22/10/2024 05:50

Greenfinch7 · 22/10/2024 03:38

The CPS guidance is a 6 month term for sharing nude photos without consent. I can't find a record of any man being jailed for 3 years for a similar offence, and think how many men share photos without consent. She is being treated harshly because she is a woman.

She also shared the woman's personal details on an escort site, thus exposing her to who knows what weird men. Much worse than 'just' sharing photos.

Zanatdy · 22/10/2024 05:53

Of course it’s not fair. I hope the mother who encouraged this is happy now once daughter lost her career, and the other is in prison. I’d never encourage my child to do something like this, knowing full well she could go to prison. What did she do to her father who also had an affair? All this has caused a lot of upset, but seems she has no regret, and is deserving of the sentence she received.

SwanSong1 · 22/10/2024 05:55

No, the OW is not married to you, how's about blaming your husband?

Wordsmithery · 22/10/2024 05:58

Of course it's not acceptable to put somebody's nude photos plus contact details in the hands of strangers! What planet are you on?
Oh yes, victim blaming planet. I recognise it now. Where the OW is at fault and the man, who is the one who betrayed his own family, is blameless.
What Eleanor Brown did was ugly, excessively spiteful and could have a long term effect on the victim. Those photos will never not be out there.
Three years should give Ms Brown time to reflect.

CurlewKate · 22/10/2024 05:59

Because obviously the man is the innocent party here-helplessly ensnared by this wicked woman.

AgentJohnson · 22/10/2024 06:00

Of course it's not acceptable to put somebody's nude photos plus contact details in the hands of strangers! What planet are you on?

This!!!!!!!!

BananaSpanner · 22/10/2024 06:05

SwanSong1 · 22/10/2024 05:55

No, the OW is not married to you, how's about blaming your husband?

I’m not commenting on this case specifically but I think it’s possible to hold both people involved in the affair responsible. The spouse obviously betrays their cheated on other half which is worse but the affair partner also displays callous, selfish behaviour and it’s quite justified to be angry at them too (not condoning what has gone on in this case).

pictoosh · 22/10/2024 06:07

No, she's a malicious bully and deserves every minute of that sentence.

pictoosh · 22/10/2024 06:13

And no, I absolutely would not be tempted to post naked photos of my father's mistress from a years ago affair on an online escort site because my father couldn't keep his dick in his pants.

She's an utter ghoul.

Applesonthelawn · 22/10/2024 06:14

They should be embarrassed that they sank to such a low level. FGS keep some dignity about you. I've been cheated on and it took me years to get over but you really need to put your energy into seeing the man for the loser he is and making a better life for yourself.