Is this revenge on the OW fair or not?

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Obviously we don't have the whole story, but would you be tempted to do this, to take revenge on the OW on your mother's behalf? I think I might, if I felt my mother and my family had been torn apart by her actions.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj9j9lpgjxlo

She got three years because she was convicted on two charges, so got a year for one and two for the other. The judge’s sentencing remarks indicate why he was ‘harsh’ with the length - she forced the victim to give evidence and showed no remorse for her actions.

I really think the sister and mother should have faced charges too. It’s pretty clear that the mother sent her the photos to use on the escort site and knew and encouraged what she was doing.

And the sister?! What a fucking coward (amongst other unpleasant aspects to her personality). Presumably SHE didn’t post the pictures up because she knew how illegal it was and knew there’d be a threat to her job.

She must have come into contact with victims of sexually abusive crimes at some point in her police work, and would certainly have had training on the impact etc, but chose to egg her sister on. She’s no loss to policing, but the CPS should have had her up in court with her sister. Arguably, SHE should have faced the heavier sanctions, because of all of the above.

I think they should have prosecuted the mother for raising her children to think this level of dramatic behaviour is acceptable, and for encouraging her daughter to do this, and for turning the children against the OW to such an extent. She clearly gave them information about this affair far beyond what children ever should have known.
I think it's unfair to prosecute the daughter to this extent when she was basically groomed into doing this and the person who wound her up and pointed her in the right direction gets to go home scot free. I think what she did is awful, though.

It's not about the affair , it lies squarely with the girl and her sharing photos of someone else without their permission from something that actually happened years ago, and these photos were pushed into the realm of her marriage, her employment and her community in a targeted effort to harass They were nude intimate photos from what she believed to be a private scenario, and she is now unable to go anywhere in her normal life without knowing who has seen them.

The sentence is fair. And it's a strong important message to others, might make a few people rethink their responses. That's the other point of the sentencing.

Fair or unfair? It was illegal and justice has been served.

People like you are genuinely terrifying. Revenge isn't fair game. You make it sound as if what this woman did would have been ok if she hasn't been caught. Fucking awful.

Glad she’s being punished although the main culprit is the mum. What a vile woman to encourage your daughters to break the law/ lose their job. The dad was an idiot for having an affair and not just leaving her and then staying married to such a poisonous woman. The mum has chosen to stay married to him whilst getting her own children to seek vengeance on her behalf. What a fucked up family.

People wonder why sex crimes are so hard to prosecute.

Here’s a thread full of women looking at the victim of a sex crime and a good chunk are saying “well she probably deserved it for it for being the wrong kind of slut a decade before.”

She was asking for it.
Well I bet she learned not to go sleeping around anymore.
It wouldn’t have happened it’s she was more respectable.

Absolutely despicable.

I disagree- she has no children so your argument about that does not apply. At every point in the trial she was unrepentant and difficult. There were many aspects to this case and she fully deserves the sentence. Your making of excuses to minimise her choices over a period of time (many years after the affair) behaviours, the extent and impact of it and her complete lack of remorse is awful- she is an adult who made choices because she wanted to do those things to hurt, humiliate, scare, punish the woman and her family, destroy her marriage and her husband's business.
She didn't have awful teenage years- the claim was they have been taken from her since her discovery of the affair - she was a very late teenager when she discovered it . She had many opportunities to stop her behaviour and she revelled in it. Her sister was as bad but did all the encouraging and stepped back and watched.
There is no reason why she should not serve a prison sentence. Women should not be treated more lightly if they offend.

It's not about the affair , it lies squarely with the girl and her sharing photos of someone else without their permission from something that actually happened years ago, and these photos were pushed into the realm of her marriage, her employment and her community in a targeted effort to harass

Agree @MrMucker The daughter also targeted the husband of the OW and tried to harm his business. And why? What for? What the fuck had he done to deserve any of it.

Of course it isn't fair, it's a criminal offence. What a ridiculous question.

She's being treated harshly for the sheer maliciousness that went into her actions. Her mother should have also received a sentence for projecting her anger into her daughter.

And, the father just walks away with no blame attached. Absolutely fucking terrific.

Very odd definition of “fair” to publically shame a female body like that. It suggests that the woman’s crime is her sexuality and that the just punishment should be public humiliation of her naked female body. It’s a medieval approach.

The failure of an affair is a moral one: cheating, lying and hurting those you love. “Fair” as retribution should be the breakdown of relationships with love ones, division of the life and assets you have built up together, disruption to your life and family the way you have upended the life of an innocent party. Possibly ostracisation from the social community.

I suppose ultimately to experience the same pain you have caused others would be the ultimate “fair” in this scenario.

It's obviously very wrong and illegal, but yes, I'd have been tempted.

Totally agree with this. Spot on. Said it better than I did!

They also attempted to wreck the victims husbands business, he was totally innocent in all of this.
I must be getting really old but just can't get over the need for women to constantly share intimate photos, it is possible to have a relationship without taking pictures of your bits!

Yes, the judge commented on this and she had shown no remorse whatsover, which is why she got the sentence she did.

Judge Alexander Menary said Brown's actions had been "vindictive, selfish and vengeful" and told her that she had "relished the obvious discomfort" the offending had caused.

The judge said her decision to initially deny the offences had been an "act of brinkmanship", forcing the victim and her husband to go through the stress of giving evidence at trial.

Sentencing her to consecutive terms of two and one years for each of the charges, Judge Menary told her: "Your lack of remorse is staggering."

3 years is crazy

They might as well get rid of police and courts and just get a bunch of fishwives to give 'justice'

No she isn't.
She got a long prison term because she showed absolutely no remorse whatsoever. This wasn't a spur of the moment thing done in rage, this was 12 years later and was premeditated.

It’s two sentences for two crimes.

Maybe if she had shown some remorse they would have run concurrently not consecutively.

No of course not. Thank goodness I’m not mentally and emotionally unstable like this unfortunate woman.

A much harsher sentence than any man would or has received, merely because she showed little remorse?
You have to wonder if this was handed down by an old misogynistic judge, who has little idea or training regarding the utter psychological life long impact an affair can have not only on the innocent wife but children of which she was when her father betrayed his wife and family.

They are the real victims in all this along with OW's family.

The irony of the OW's ..."I find it hard to believe a woman would do this to another woman. To say I feel violated is an understatement"

No excuse for this. Truly vile and unhinged thing to do. Don't care if its a man sharing images, or a woman, it's a crime and blaming the victim isn't an excuse.

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Thats 80% who walk free who make it to court. 50% don’t even make it that far.

It's not terrifying. I don't believe people should get away with this sort of behaviour.