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To ask if people hate you because you’re “real?”

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ByPithyRoseReader · 21/10/2024 18:59

I’ve always prided myself on being honest and straightforward, and I’ve noticed that some people seem to have a problem with it. It feels like the more authentic I am, the more tension it creates with certain people. I don’t go out of my way to be rude, but I won’t sugarcoat things either.

AIBU to think that some people just don’t like it when others are real with them? Have you ever felt that being genuine makes people uncomfortable or even causes them to dislike you? Is this a common thing, or is it just me?

OP posts:
InWalksBarberalla · 21/10/2024 21:18

I tend to find anyone who goes about defining themselves "I'm this", "I'm that" is an annoying self absorbed twat.

Modusop · 21/10/2024 21:18

Not saying this is you OP but some people certainly pride themselves on "telling it like it is" but in reality are just tone deaf boors who lack any insight or sensitivity and revel in making others feel small to prop up their own insecurities. Kind of pathetic if you ask me. True authenticity doesn't mean being cruel or unkind, I've never known anyone who was like this i.e. tactless who didn't enjoy sticking the boot in.

SweetSakura · 21/10/2024 21:19

ByPithyRoseReader · 21/10/2024 19:28

Oh I see what you mean! To clarify, I might address issues like a friend’s behaviour that’s bothering me by saying something like, “I feel hurt when you cancel plans at the last minute,” instead of avoiding the topic. Or, if someone asks about their outfit, I’d say, “I think a different colour might really suit you better,” rather than just saying I don’t like it. I aim to express my feelings or observations honestly while still being mindful of the other person’s feelings.

Using these two examples as they are the ones you have given

  • do you stop and think first whether the person might have real reason to cancel before making it all about you? (Eg Ill health, a difficult partner, caring responsibilities, an unpredictable job)? It's never crossed my mind to take it personally if someone cancels, life is complex for most adults.
  • before being so, erm, "refreshingly honest" about the outfit do you stop and think whether they wanted brutal honesty or just wanted a confidence boost? Are you giving this opinion when they are in the fitting rooms choosing, or on a night out when they are already out and wanting to feel good about themselves?

Both these examples you gave give me the impression you are a bit self centred /socially inept rather than laudably honest.

stayathomer · 21/10/2024 21:20

I know a few people who have ‘just thought I should know’ so much stuff I honestly would have been a million times better off not knowing, sometimes with a nice little pinch of ‘it’s better than people talking about it behind your back’. I couldn’t have cared less if they had but the person saying it meant I had to address it when I had heavy other shit to deal with at those times. They walked away secure that they had been ‘honest’ and ‘real’, I had to go talk down the people who would know this other person had told me.

Teanbiscuits33 · 21/10/2024 21:21

gmgnts · 21/10/2024 20:54

I once had a cleaner who would 'tell it like it is' and spent her time telling me what was wrong with the decor in my house and how she would have things much more tastefully arranged and how I should be running my household better whilst (very, very slowly and seemingly reluctantly) doing some of the work I asked of her - but often she would just say 'Oh I don't do floors' or 'I'm not using that spray, don't you have x spray instead, it's much better. I don't know how I stuck with her for as long as I did, but in the end I sacked her. Only, since I'm not 'real', I dressed it up and sugar-coated it with some story about how I'd be spending more time at home and would see to the cleaning myself from now on. But if I ever see her again it will be too soon. Rude woman.

See, in that situation, there’s nothing wrong with being honest. She would have thoroughly deserved it. I would have told her she needs to get some manners and social awareness, stop being rude about other people’s homes and concentrate on what she is being hired to do - then she might get more work, but since your home is not to her tastes, you don’t think it’s fair to inflict it upon her any longer so you will be doing your own cleaning from now on and she is surplus to requirements 🤣

Crumpleton · 21/10/2024 21:26

There's honesty then there's those that are so opinionated they can only see one view.

Meanwhile33 · 21/10/2024 21:26

OP I think this example you gave - “I feel hurt when you cancel plans at the last minute,” - is totally fine and a good time to be real, and if the friend can’t cope with hearing you be honest in this context then they’re not up for having a very meaningful friendship.

I think most posters are imagining you going round being rude just for the fun of it, while feeling superior. But this example doesn’t say that to me at all.

Liopy · 21/10/2024 21:28

I have encountered a few people who pride themselves on being direct but don’t like it when someone is direct to them in return.

ZigAZigAhh · 21/10/2024 21:29

I work with someone senior who is very much like OP. I love my job but am now sadly looking for a new one as I have reached my limit with my colleague’s “feedback” and “honesty” - each time I see an email from them it feels as though I have been punched in the stomach. They also have a habit of sending emails late on Friday evenings and on Sundays with their “helpful” observations. I feel like such a weakling but it’s honestly affecting me so much that I need to leave.

OptimisticMermaid · 21/10/2024 21:30

Apologies in advance as I am usually not quite so real but - You sound like a PITA.

OptimisticMermaid · 21/10/2024 21:30

OptimisticMermaid · 21/10/2024 21:30

Apologies in advance as I am usually not quite so real but - You sound like a PITA.

To the OP

Barney16 · 21/10/2024 21:33

My mum "tells it like it is". She's actually just bloody rude.

Teanbiscuits33 · 21/10/2024 21:35

Liopy · 21/10/2024 21:28

I have encountered a few people who pride themselves on being direct but don’t like it when someone is direct to them in return.

It’s because they’re very insecure and use their honesty and directness to be intentionally rude and obnoxious about others as a power grab, but obviously then they don’t like it when their own flaws are pointed out because their ‘tell it like it is’ big personality is a facade. They are usually quite sensitive themselves. Hypocrites. I make sure I tell them exactly what’s wrong with them if happens to me, and then they predictably start sulking and make me out to be the horrible one 🤣

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 21/10/2024 21:39

Have you got any good friends who would tell you how your honesty comes over to them?
It sounds that you keep offending people, but I can't tell why from what you have said in your posts. Tone of voice and body language make a difference, it's not just the words. 'Another haircut would suit you better' could be damning or supportive depending on context and tone of voice.

Mmmm19 · 21/10/2024 21:40

ByPithyRoseReader · 21/10/2024 19:28

Oh I see what you mean! To clarify, I might address issues like a friend’s behaviour that’s bothering me by saying something like, “I feel hurt when you cancel plans at the last minute,” instead of avoiding the topic. Or, if someone asks about their outfit, I’d say, “I think a different colour might really suit you better,” rather than just saying I don’t like it. I aim to express my feelings or observations honestly while still being mindful of the other person’s feelings.

But do you say that when they trying on in a shop or when they are at an event ? One could be upsetting but is clearly trying to be / is helpful, one is rude and hurtful

AdaShoelace · 21/10/2024 21:43

I appreciate honesty and directness but there is a fine line.

ReadWithScepticism · 21/10/2024 21:45

Unusual to use the phrase 'being real' to refer to the relatively simple concept of directness/frankness when speaking to others.
I've always thought it conveyed something much more profound than that. Something to do with being more deeply perceptive of yourself -- more authentic in your self-dealing, and consequently more able to use your own reactions to other people as a source of wisdom about them and about your relationship with them. I think that is what people value when they speak of a friend as 'being real'.

As regards being direct, I think it can be positive in some circumstances, provided that it is combined with some genuine self-scrutiny before you voice an opinion, otherwise it can get a bit like the "I speak as I find" comedy character in John Finemore's Souvenir Programme

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 21/10/2024 21:47

Mmmm19 · 21/10/2024 21:40

But do you say that when they trying on in a shop or when they are at an event ? One could be upsetting but is clearly trying to be / is helpful, one is rude and hurtful

Exactly. It's the context.
'Shall I buy this red dress, I can't decide, or this one better?' 'Mm, I think the blue suits your colouring best', is fine.
'Do you like my dress? I've never worn red before but I thought it would be perfect for this winter wedding?' 'Mm, you like better in blue or green or even lilac,' is not fine.

WiddlinDiddlin · 21/10/2024 21:47

Um, no.. I am pretty honest if asked for my opinion, or if I need to tell someone something.

I am pretty careful on the whole to wait until asked for my opinion and to only give it if its relevant and constructive.

If you're getting negative responses then maybe consider if you are being authentic and real in a way that causes upset and bad feeling because you weren't actually asked or what you're saying isn't useful, relevant etc.

Telling Sandra a dress she is trying on in a shop makes her arse look three times bigger might be constructive and useful.

Telling her the same thing at a party where she can't change into anything else, and has just told you how she feels great in the dress is just cunty.

MindfulGrateful · 21/10/2024 21:57

Journeyintomelody · 21/10/2024 19:14

I once was assaulted on a cycle path by a group of teenage lads. My ex told me it was my fault because "you always look happy when you're walking by yourself and it's irritating as f*ck". I was being real, my authentic self. I'm sorry (not sorry) if my face offends you.

What the hell? What a bitter thing to say. Glad they're an ex!!!

DoYouReally · 21/10/2024 21:58

You can be real and authentic while also being considerate, diplomatic, and polite. The majority of people are.

If the real you isn't tactful, emotionally intelligent and you make no effort to see things from others point of view, it may be the real you.

However, it won't get you very far with a lot of people who will consider your direct approach rude, insulting and unpleasant.

ForPearlViper · 21/10/2024 22:03

ByPithyRoseReader · 21/10/2024 19:07

I always try to be honest without being deliberately hurtful. I’m not the type to go out of my way to offend, but I also don’t believe in sugarcoating things just to avoid conflict. I guess my approach is more about being direct than tactful, and maybe that’s where the issue lies.

I’ve found that some people take honesty well, while others seem to see it as rude or abrasive. But is it better to hold back to keep the peace, or be upfront and risk being misunderstood? I’m genuinely curious how others navigate this.

I suspect the word 'deliberately' is doing some heavy lifting on this one.

TheRealSlimShandy · 21/10/2024 22:05

It’s about emotional intelligence isn’t it?

There can be situations in which being direct is required.l, for example at work or if someone you care about will suffer some form of “harm” due to you not being honest.

But - if you are finding people consistently don’t like you, then the common factor. to be “real”, is you:

As an aside - I personally equate being real or genuine with people who “tell it like it is” about themselves rather than others - as in they are self aware and share the less polished side of themselves - those to me are people who are “real.”

Plamas · 21/10/2024 22:12

Haven't read the thread, but feel pretty certain you are often rude Grin

BearyJBilge · 21/10/2024 22:15

“Telling it like it is”, usually means tactless. It’s possible to deliver “truth” without being a bull in a china shop.

The tell it like it is brigade also tend to good at giving it out but not so great at receiving it.

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