To wonder why more men don’t get the snip?

[Rainallnight]

When their family is complete.

Sparked by two (separate) people I know who recently got pregnant with or gave birth to their fourth child. Both shared freely that it was an accident - contraception failure. Life with 3 DC is full on and a bit of a struggle already in both cases. Neither felt abortion was an option for them.

When you’re 3 DC in and your family is complete, why on Earth are the men not going for the snip to bring an end to it all? And stop birth control being all on the woman?

I thought you weren't bother about sex any more, so why is impotence an issue?
I'm not going to reel off a list of pain women tolerate, but you'll not be surprised that I am lacking in sympathy if that's your excuse.
And if you're already infertile, why do you even need to be on this thread. It's not about you.

It's actually my wife that's infertile, but I'm assuming she'll get a bit more sympathy from somebody like you.

The lack of sympathy was in reference to the testicle pain. But you know that really.

"And if you're already infertile, why do you even need to be on this thread. It's not about you."

Yeah. You're oozing sympathy with every post. 🙄

But it's true - you said you aren't interested in sex either. So why do you care? This thread has zero relevance to you aside from your own squeamishness regarding your body.

And your own posts have been extremely insensitive to women from the start. Why do you expect it back because you once had sore balls?

"And your own posts have been extremely insensitive to women from the start. Why do you expect it back because you once had sore balls?"

I'm not sure which posts you're referring to. Plenty of female posters have said exactly the same thing as me - e.g. childbirth isn't some kind of debt that needs to be repaid.

I'm sorry if I've invaded your man hating safe space. 😂

Ahhh, there it is! Knew I could get it out of you. 😁 We're man haters as soon as we think men and their excuses (and internalised misogyny by women) are a bit weak and pathetic.

Thanks. You didn't even make it difficult!

Oh no. 😱

Is that you deploying your investigative tricks Colleen? 😂

No idea what you're referencing there, I'm afraid. It just amuses me that man hating is all people like you can throw out when women give valid reasons as to why certain things are important to them.

It reveals a lot about you. Especially as it doesn't even impact you and your situation, you're still here defending a man's right to have no responsibility while his partner has to go through all sorts.

We don't hate men. I know I don't. My DH is a living god in my eyes, as sickly as it sounds. I adore him. I adore my son. I adore my brother and my dad was an incredible man. Men who make excuses as to why women should suffer discomfort while men don't need to, however, I find shocking.

It's the same kind of fool who screams "NOT ALL MEN" every time women say they're tired of men's behaviour.

Oh! And as an aside. When my DH was trampled by a horse, shattering his hip, he suffered issues with his testicles. Through some fucking miracle he was fine, but even after all that pain? Man still got the snip. Because he saw the sacrifices I'd made with my own body to create and maintain a family.

I don't understand why either, simple procedure. Women have had to endure everything else and to have a break form contraception, pills, which don't always work.

Many of my generation's Dads had it, what's the problem? It can be reversed, unlike an hysterectomy!

Honestly don't bother. This one winds me up so much, I have to bow out for my own sanity 😂

I know, I don't even know why I got involved, it's like talking to a wall. Looking back from the start the lack of empathy is astounding. 😂

They all come out from the woodwork in these threads. I think I'm going to make a cuppa and disengage!

I actually don't know why it is an issue. Tons of men I know have had it done and we are all more or less still upright.

Women also have the choice to be sterilized, why does it have to be the man that has it done. The responsibility is on both in the relationship.

As has been said many times on this thread @Santina it’s much more invasive for women.

The argument "it takes their manhood away" is just simply pathetic and ridiculous. It makes zero sense. An excuse.

I couldn't take the pill - this was in the 1970's so safer pills might be around now. When I took it, I had severe migraines on a very regular basis. They stopped when I stopped taking the pill. But my husband would not use condoms and so I had a coil fitted. It caused me no end of problems through the years, a horrible dragging period-type pain throughout the month. I would have to have it removed every so often to give my body a rest. After our second child was born I asked my husband to have a vasectomy. He outright refused, saying some research had been done that suggested vasectomies were linked to heart problems (I don't believe such research had been peer reviewed and was therefore invalid). In the end, I was found to have a severely retroverted uterus which perhaps explained my difficulties with the coil. I had corrective surgery and was advised to get sterilised at the same time. I was in hospital for 7 days and had four weeks' off work. Yet my husband could have had a simple procedure which did not require hospitalisation or more than a day or so off work.

I still feel annoyed about it but I think there are many men like this who think contraception and family planning is not their responsibility.

I'm single now so don't really have any skin in the game but it irrationally annoys me that men are happy for their wives to go through all sorts in order to have children but can't bear the thought of having a simple procedure that just requires a weekend of rest. As for potential complications, what about what women go through?? I've had 3 pregnancies and 2 children, my episiotomy scar is nearly 10 years old and still sensitive, and I also have carpal tunnel syndrome post pregnancy.

My friend has been told she can never go back on the pill yet her husband still won't have the procedure. Really annoys me on her behalf

Bloody hell! Can’t believe I’m reading this! Perhaps it’s how he gets his kicks, by being outrageous to see what kind of reaction he gets…..very weird and so totally unprofessional!

any man who believes that has no manhood to protect frankly.