So no extra funding for MH conditions or eating disorders just weight loss jabs!

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It’s nuts!

So many people struggling with quite severe MH conditions on massive waiting lists getting nothing.

People dying of EDS. Because there are no inpatient beds and huge waits for treatment but apparantly we can fund weight loss jabs to anybody who wants them. 🤔

Even though we know very little about the long term impact.

What other issues will we have, sorry?

The results do not change the fact that these medicines have been tested for a long long time.

Because anti-obesity drugs are a relatively easy and cheap win with potentially massive returns in terms of the health of the nation. Obesity is a public health crisis and eating disorders are not. Mental health is, but there's no easy and cheap fix. At the end of the day it's a cost-benefit calculation, and the benefit to the health of the nation, and therefore the economy, of reducing the obesity epidemic using relatively cheap drugs far outweighs the costs.

If there was a magic injection that fixed mental health problems, and it was not being funded, then you would have a point. But sadly there isn't.

Quite. But God forbid those evil fatties get anything!
Not one, btw. Fat anyway. See username.
I notice the hard of thinking have flocked to assure OP she's right, though.

Well no the government don't really care about any people at all. People are resources (in that their work boosts productivity and income) or costs to an economy. The UK has a growing obesity rate that will cost the economy. Hence the plan to reduce the costs via these medications. Well to start with a trial to confirm the cost benefit ratio.

@Beautiful3 When you say your mum used to take the pills, do you mean amphetamines? I know they were a popular appetite suppressant in the 1950s.

Wonder what the difference is re side effects, potential long-term effects, and effectiveness between the old 1950s appetite suppressant "bennies" versus these new weight loss drugs?

@Windchimesandsong amphetamines are incredibly addictive, I think that is one of the biggest issues with them. They can also give you high blood pressure and palpitations, very alert so you become sleep deficient. They were very effective for weight loss though.

I don't know much about pep pills (amphetamines). Are they physically addictive (like needing to keep increasing dosage and/or physical withdrawal symptoms) or is it more psychological dependance?

They're still prescribed, I believe, for ADHD? So I assume they're considered safe enough in some circumstances, just no longer for weight loss.

Although, sleep deprivation is definitely a very bad side effect. In fact sleep deprivation can cause weight gain. I guess in the past people using pep pills dealt with that with sedatives/sleeping pills at bedtime.

Anyway I mentioned them because the poster mentioning her mum taking the pills reminded me that, whether a good idea or not, weight loss drugs are nothing new. Either on this thread or another thread yesterday, some posters were suggesting "in the past, nobody needed or took weight loss drugs". Except they did. Pep pills were very popular back in the day.

Yes you are.

These jabs are here and available. They have potential to change people’s lives, make them healthier and save the NHS money.

You seem to believe they should ignore its existence and possible impact, because they don’t have enough cash for every condition. Why?

If a jab became available for people with anorexia that helped resolve lots of problems and helped people recover, would you say the NHs should not look at using it because they don’t have the money look into the causes of obesity and treat those people?