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YourAmplePlumPoster · 17/12/2024 14:39

There are a lot of articles about the family courts on the above website and what they put women and children through.

Speckyfourfries · 17/12/2024 14:53

YourAmplePlumPoster · 17/12/2024 13:30

What about the sister who received these WhatsApp messages and said nothing?

She needs to be held accountable. She knew and did nothing.
I'm glad they have been sentenced but I still feel so angry, 40 years in prison seems like a walk in a park compared to what Sara went through
... Will be they kept in the isolation cells away from other inmates? Will they be protected? I am so angry and sad.
Sara, I hope you are at peace now.
😭

roxyro · 17/12/2024 15:51

YourAmplePlumPoster · 17/12/2024 13:30

What about the sister who received these WhatsApp messages and said nothing?

I agree. The uncle has been locked up and there’s been no evidence he took part in any of it just that he didn’t do anything to stop it. I also believe the thick, idiot of a sister who told her to play the Koran and ignore it should be hauled before the courts and punished. It certainly illustrates the mindset of certain people. It’s horrific. I’d also like to know why she was photographed dressed as an adult with make up and long, dangly earrings.

Lalgarh · 17/12/2024 17:06

One of the papers reported that the sister of Batool (if that is her real name, she was also using the name Aysha Khan) was discussing with her if Sara might be possesed by a demon 😱

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/sara-sharif-woking-surrey-old-bailey-koran-b1191369.html

Jukeboxjive · 17/12/2024 17:26

@Lalgarh I agree she is also extremely culpable, hopefully someone is looking at this aspect.
She was perhaps in the most removed safe place to anonymously report the abuse.

Jukeboxjive · 17/12/2024 17:30

@Elleherd indeed but so far every news story has mentored she was given to her father.
. These judges need independently looking at

Jukeboxjive · 17/12/2024 17:31

At the very least she needed questioning.
And if she's happy to hear and see that and recommend the Koran what the hell is happening in her life as well??

Chowtime · 17/12/2024 17:35

MichaelandKirk · 17/12/2024 14:03

Can I ask a couple of questions

  1. Why did they come back from Parkistan?
  2. Were they actually listening to the judge and his sentencing?

They said they were coming back from Pakistan to clear their names but the real reason is probably because the Pakistani police were beating the crap out of all the male relatives in a bid to get them to tell them where they were and so the family were put under pressure to return to the UK.

Yes, they were there when sentencing was passed.

greenday16B · 17/12/2024 17:55

Add the cultural aspect to this and the blended family and you have a situation where no one dares get too involved

That's why we have police. I'm sick of this whining about culture. This narrative that nobody dares to say anything . BS

MichaelandKirk · 17/12/2024 18:13

Greenday - I agree but there were many red flags and ss visits and yet no one got involved for fear of being pulled up on it.

historyrepeatz · 17/12/2024 18:16

Does anyone saying they should serve their sentence in Pakistan have any faith that they would serve them fully out there? The system is very corrupt. Even if they do, somebody might be able to use influence and /or money to make their lives easier.

TheTwirlyPoos · 17/12/2024 20:04

So she will be 60 and be out.

Why? Why aren't we giving full life tariffs for these crimes?

JHound · 17/12/2024 20:05

Hotdogsarevile · 14/10/2024 18:02

Sorry for the daily mail link but Jesus fucking Christ this is beyond awful

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13958665/sara-sharif-burned-tied-bite-marks-murder-trial.html

when will this ever end?

To answer your question - no. It will never end.

Sadly.

Her name will be forgotten soon and there will be another child’s name to take her place.

And another.

And another.

And another.

JHound · 17/12/2024 20:06

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 14/10/2024 18:20

And all the other adults who stood back whilst he beat the fuck out of her.
Why didn't her school send ss round? Absent from school for 4 months

They did make a referral. But it’s not as simple as making a referral and a child gets removed (especially when parents can play the home schooling card.)

TheTwirlyPoos · 17/12/2024 20:07

Women arrested this afternoon for the murder of a five year old. We are looking at roughly one child a week.

Zebrashavestripes · 17/12/2024 20:16

JHound · 17/12/2024 20:06

They did make a referral. But it’s not as simple as making a referral and a child gets removed (especially when parents can play the home schooling card.)

There is no "home schooling card" to play. SS can intervene whether a child is at school or not.

Elleherd · 18/12/2024 10:29

Zebrashavestripes · 17/12/2024 20:16

There is no "home schooling card" to play. SS can intervene whether a child is at school or not.

Correct. All these things; home education, cultural sensitivities, undocumented claims of medical reasons for bruises/hunger/exhaustion etc etc, can be easily overridden and often are, when there are concerns about a child's welfare.

You don't hear about all the cases where they have been overridden and the family found to be fine, other good explanations for what looks at first glance to be suspicious found, or the concerns justified but not at a level requiring 'draconian' intervention. Many SW departments are doing it right even if it is awful for innocent parents who on closer examination can show the fears of others are incorrect, but it's not talked about because it's stigmatising being investigated.

You only hear it being trotted out as an excuse for failing to follow up, where a child has then died and so often procedure hasn't been followed and everyone from the ground upwards is looking for excuses and/or to bring their own agendas into play, in the name of not letting down another child whilst covering up their own failures over the last one.

greenday16B · 18/12/2024 16:45

What the hell are " cultural sensitivites" What a load of nonsense.There are well established Muslim communities here and many professional women who are Muslims. Such people need to be part of a workforce.

roxyro · 18/12/2024 22:14

greenday16B · 18/12/2024 16:45

What the hell are " cultural sensitivites" What a load of nonsense.There are well established Muslim communities here and many professional women who are Muslims. Such people need to be part of a workforce.

Who’s talking about Muslims? Cultural sensitivities aren’t the same as religious sensitivities.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 19/12/2024 19:08

Whenever I am out these days in shopping centres or restaurants, I hear children screaming like they're being murdered. I'm an older woman so maybe it's got worse since my days. When people say they don't understand the neighbours, maybe it's because of what they see and hear in neighbourhoods - children screaming when nothing is being done to them. I really don't understand the screaming in public places.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 19/12/2024 19:12

So while those neighbours didn't report it they probably thought this is just the normal kind of screaming that kids do since they all do it everywhere you go these days.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 19/12/2024 19:45

Seriously, I've been looking at comments on Redditt about screaming children in public places and I think this might have been a factor in not reporting what the neighbours heard. It is all too common to hear screaming children out and about these days who are not abused or in any danger.

greenday16B · 19/12/2024 20:59

There is a world of difference between children screaming in a public place and living next door to what they must have heard.

greenday16B · 19/12/2024 21:01

roxyro · 18/12/2024 22:14

Who’s talking about Muslims? Cultural sensitivities aren’t the same as religious sensitivities.

Thank you, I know that. I'm saying if somebody felt that poor little girl was at risk there must have been professionals who could investigate whilst maintaining cultural sensitivity. The whole hijab thing is just a smoke screen.

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