Anyone else just wish these xl bullies would disappear?

[Mayaamelia]

I know I’m not the only one and don’t think I am being unreasonable tbh but didn’t know where else to post this.

In the past week or so there have been five serious attacks in the UK but what we have plastered all over the news is the police apologising to a deluded xl bully owner, when he’s the one who failed to do as he’s told.
What kind of message does that send?

The other day armed police were called to Stockport because of a dangerous dog and three people were injured. There’s only one little article about it in the Star. When did this ever used to happen in this country? It’s not normal.

I just don’t see why normal, decent people should have to live in fear of these scumbags and their dangerous dogs. Nothing is being done, how can something be banned if there are exemptions?
When the dogs do attack, the owners get months in prison which is the equivalent to a slap on the wrist.

It’s like being in possession of something worse than a loaded gun or a lion. Nobody’s allowed pepper spray though - you can get 4 years in prison just for carrying it apparently.
If they at least increased the jail time maybe that would deter people from owning these dangerous dogs.

XL Bullies have a genetic predisposition to violence and aggression. Yes they can be "big dopes" but under the surface that same thing exists and it's only a matter of time. The thing is, they're bred to be pure muscle. That's what makes them so dangerous. If a Labrador snapped it would be painful but not deadly.

When a Bully snaps that's it. They're set on that target and won't stop until neutralised. They're horrific things.

Yanbu. They're foul creatures. Even a rottweiler is a good dog if trained well and owned by a fit, disciplined person. But all XL's are too strong, agressive and thick to be trained properly.

I’m afraid this is true. There’s simply no other logical explanation for getting an XL bully than because you think it says something about you. And what you think it says is pathetic, aggressive and intimidating.

The owners are without exception intellectually challenged, selfish people who aspire to a particularly unpleasant kind of low life aggressive aesthetic, who invariably go on to justify this by saying the dog is a “softie”. It’s so predictable.

I love dogs and have no problem with responsible dog ownership but this is something completely warped. It’s a real shame that they have been allowed to proliferate as they have but yes they should be culled.

YANBU

I felt so uncomfortable seeing such a dog with a man and his tiny daughter who must have been about one and about level with the dog’s face.

Ear cropping is thankfully illegal in the UK so if you are in Britain it won’t have been done by a vet, but by the idiot breeder or owner.
I agree with pps, XL bullies are responsible for a disproportionate number of fatal attacks, and as a breed they do seem to have an innate predisposition towards random and unpredictable attacks. I saw news footage of an XL bully attacking a man, and the body language of the dog was startling. The dog was happy and clearly enjoying itself rather than reacting defensively or protectively. It was how some breeds of dog might behave with a small prey animal, rather than how a dog is when fighting or highly defensive. Horrifying.

I was getting my eyebrows waxed recently and the beautician was talking about how it’s unfair people cross the road when she’s with her XL. Then a minute later tells me she had to hold back her dog from jumping on a cold caller at her door. 🤦‍♀️
Didn’t say I would be one of those crossing the road as didn’t want messed up eyebrows.

@ZippyLimeSnake , to echo another poster , I would genuinely like to know why you chose an xl bully over other dog breeds ?

there are a few in our neighbourhood and it scares the crap out of me when I walk our dog. We walked past one recently and the owner jumped back off the path, struggling to hold the dog back. Owner was a tiny petite woman and dog was enormous. No muzzle. She could barely hold dog back. If the dog had broken free, I've no doubt serious injury or death would've occurred.

Yanbu. My nephew had one and bred it with another, they are huge, terrifying things with weird legs and docked ears, I actually feel sorry for them because they're being (in) bred to fail basically. The poster they put on FB advertising the litter looked like a fight promotion poster. Sold them for cash to morons via FB.

They've since had to get rid of theirs because it was getting aggressive around their 1 year old son. Terrifying.

So yes, it's owners. And it's breeders. And, as sad as it is, yes it is the dog. In bred with a kill switch, massive and strong with lock jaw, making them impossible to control if/when they do turn. They should be banned and bred out, if anything as a kindness to the dogs themselves.

Also one attack on a person is one too many.

Why do people want to have these dogs?

Apart from wanting to 'look hard' /intimidating?? There are loads of breeds to choose from, that are lovely dogs and who wouldn't turn into vicious killing machines ...

I worked a very poverty stricken housing estates... Every other house had a large intimidating dog (at the time dobermans) ... Often not trained and often kept to intimidate neighbours /strangers /social workers.... Many would boast of their dogs aggression.

We worked several cases where small kids were taken into care following nasty bites parents prioritising their animals over their toddlers ('no, Fang looks intimidating but hes a real sweetheart... ')

Why would anyone want to risk their kids/anyone's life??

Perhaps I am a dope. But at least I don’t go around calling other grown adults names when I absolutely don’t know a singular thing about them ;)

I live in South London. Often see these dogs unmuzzled off the lead in my local park. The owners don't give a shit - usually male. I do often wish these dogs would disappear along with their irresponsible owners.

Even the ones who rape and murder?

There needs to be more work done on XL Bully's DNA.
All the ones I have ever met (and I've met quite a few) are just gorgeous, soppy dogs, but I also accept there is a rogue strain where a particular dog was used as stud repeatedly, and my belief is that that is the issue. The repeated inbreeding of this particular dog (Killer Kimbo) who was itself the product of a brother/sister pairing seems to be when the problem started. It frequently appears in both sides of the affected animal's pedigree many times over.
If they could test and remove dogs selectively then all the non affected dogs who come from careful breeding lines would be left in peace.

I think the wholesale destruction of a breed is a hammer to crack a nut.

I originally wanted a Newfoundland, but was struggling to find any breeders locally and the breeders that I did find were either hours and hours away or had no planned litters due. A friend of mine said her friends dog had just had puppies and thus we ended up with our dog after a few visits of seeing mum and dad.

Easier option - people just pick any other breed of dog as a pet. XL bullies don’t need to exist.

Oh yes, XLs and Cane Corsos should be banned.

@ZippyLimeSnake , thank you for your honest answer .

@ZippyLimeSnake

www.spectator.co.uk/article/blame-the-breed-not-the-owner-the-truth-about-american-bully-xls/

I do hope you're complying with the rules of the ban.

I think you have answered your own question

humans do breed these dangerous dogs (most likely to be men) but it’s humans that do

as we are the superior species, with a huge amount of faults but dogs are not equal to humans

The thing is, even a low level of deaths and maiming is simply unacceptable.

YANBU no need for people to have such dangerous aggressive dogs. Why take the risk? They're terrifying and I wouldn't trust one no matter how well trained the owner claims it is. They're too powerful and innately aggressive.

Yes absolutely agree. There certainly is "a type" when it comes to owners of this breed...