Anyone else just wish these xl bullies would disappear?

[Mayaamelia]

I know I’m not the only one and don’t think I am being unreasonable tbh but didn’t know where else to post this.

In the past week or so there have been five serious attacks in the UK but what we have plastered all over the news is the police apologising to a deluded xl bully owner, when he’s the one who failed to do as he’s told.
What kind of message does that send?

The other day armed police were called to Stockport because of a dangerous dog and three people were injured. There’s only one little article about it in the Star. When did this ever used to happen in this country? It’s not normal.

I just don’t see why normal, decent people should have to live in fear of these scumbags and their dangerous dogs. Nothing is being done, how can something be banned if there are exemptions?
When the dogs do attack, the owners get months in prison which is the equivalent to a slap on the wrist.

It’s like being in possession of something worse than a loaded gun or a lion. Nobody’s allowed pepper spray though - you can get 4 years in prison just for carrying it apparently.
If they at least increased the jail time maybe that would deter people from owning these dangerous dogs.

I’m a dog owner and I’d 100% be in favour of a cull of all of them too. I don’t care if he’s soft as butter. He’s got jaws that can kill an adult human male and an unpredictable temper to match - a liability. Even the most horrific human abusers are ‘nice most of the time’.

There was one being walked off lead on a footpath near us the other day umuzzled.

I clocked it straight away and the owner was drinking a can of Monster energy drink(says it all). He called it over and it did go but then I saw the muzzle hanging on the owner's bag.

So I can only assume that he'd muzzled it where he thought he'd be seen and then unmuzzled it when he thought he was alone.
No one enforces the rules.
Terrifying.

The house immediately behind our fire escape at work has got an XL bully that had pups... so 4 of them caged with chicken wire in the corner of a garden with 3 or 4 young children living there too. I've reported it to the Police, SS and the council home owners.. no one gives a shit. 4 huge dogs never walked, never stimulated, shouted at constantly, and barely fed from looking at their condition. Breaks my heart to see any dog kept like it, but I'd imagine it's the standard XL bully care. These dogs are ticking time bombs kept so cruelly.

I have an American bulldog who is one of the breeds that make an xl bully. Defra don't recognise him as a true breed in itself, but do recognise cane corso, pit bull, French and UK bulldog. He comes under the "criteria" so has to be muzzled in public. He is a massive idiot. Wants to be friends with any human or animal.

When I was at secondary school, my mate's mum had a shop and took her breeding bitches there as they whelped.

Non pregnant bitch, no pups in her care. Bitch chomped on a primary aged school girl. A lot of damage, hospital, so on...

Go on - tell me the breed? You'll be surprised.
And I can't be arsed with the guessing games - so here is the breed that ended up being destroyed because of an attack...

A shih tzu.

Yep.

A shih tzu.

Hmm-that's not really what this thread is about, is it?

XL bullies should disappear because they are dangerous animals. They are an ethical minefield cos ignorant thickos like to drag them round cos they 'look hard.' I don't care if your XL Bully is 'a softie' - it's dangerous.

I think the world would be better off without them.

Whenever I see them, they are always owned by a visible arsehole.

I agree. I feel bad as I have worked in canine welfare, but it is what it is. I'm fortunate to live in a suburban coastal area, where most people own spaniels, labs, cockerpoos etc...
I have a very large breed who is
a therapy dog, and also a full on 'in your face' 6 month old Lab, who is so OTT on approach to any high energy dog on our local beach, she deserves to get instantly banned and to make no friends whatsoever! I jest. I have to be on a constant lookout for other dogs and gauge their body language / put her on the lead if she's too excited. The high energy of excitement is definitely what provokes most dog attacks. A chilled dog rarely becomes reactive, unless it's resource guarding, and the switch happens within seconds.

All dogs have the potential to be aggressive, and I'm sure it is true that most never are, and that those who think their dog is a "big dope" or "cuddly" or a "big softy" are probably right. But the strength and inbred flexibility of temperament in XL bully dogs does make them more dangerous. If they do snap/ have a moment then the damage they can inflict is enormous and it is very, very difficult to stop them.
I was cutting across a wide lawn at our local park during summer with my daughter in the buggy. It was early evening and we were on our way home from nursery and my daughter was singing away and waving to people. About halfway across I noticed a lad walk through the gates with his XL Bully dog and let it off the lead. It wasn't muzzled. It immediately took off away from its owner and started barking. Was it excited? Was it friendly? I had no idea but I quickened my pace whilst trying very hard not to run, and tried to shush my daughter so we wouldn't draw it's attention to us because we were in an open space and I felt completely vulnerable. The thoughts that flashed through my head! And I clearly wasn't alone. There were several people (mostly mothers) who began quickly gathering their kids to leave as soon as that dog arrived.

I saw two the other day left with a child who couldn't have been older than 7/8 while dad was in a shop. There was no way that child could have controlled them if they'd gone for someone.

That’s actually so sad, do you think the local RSPCA would listen?

I genuinely don't understand this thinking. I do agree we need tougher restrictions on dog ownership etc. but men harm much more people (women, men and children) than dogs of any breed do. Do we put all men down?

100% we have a huge dog problem. People take them everywhere now. You literally can't go anywhere without a dog being present, and I say that as a dog owner myself.

My neighbour is a breeder of many different breeds of dog and at one point she was breeding the micro-bullies and XLs. They are terrifying, the muscles are astonishing to see. Now she's talking about cane corsos and the idea puts the fear of god into me.

It's whatever makes the money I guess, she doesn't breed Jack Russells 🙃

If an Xl bullies attacks and kills, the owner should be up in the dock for murder. These people tend to be morons, and should be treated as such. Utter scum.

I genuinely don't understand this thinking. I do agree we need tougher restrictions on dog ownership etc. but men harm much more people (women, men and children) than dogs of any breed do. Do we put all men down?

I genuinely don't understand people who think that's a remotely rational comparison.

The comparison is the amount of people seriously harmed/killed by men compared to the amount of people harmed/killed by dogs.

I met three last week we were dog walking in a quiet area and came on them unleashed. One flew to attack and the owner jumped on it. We kept walking with the dog on quick release lead in case they attacked.

I always carry a whistle now when I walk. As a whistle will blow a dog's concentration and it will stop the prey drive. I was poised to use it.

I have to say I was walking with a friend who had no experience of dogs. But the body language of the dogs meant that things could have deteriorated quickly.

I was in the vets a bit later on and they wanted a report

4 attacks in 48 hours in South Yorkshire recently. Apparently all forces are seeing huge rises in call outs to very regular dog attacks.
All different breeds . . .
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c869j4yzx3xo

Something must be done. It's time for licenses and dog owners collectively cover all the costs of administening the scheme via a dog ownership tax. Just like cars must be insured and taxed.

Gosh that sounds fabulous, the Canada thing. Just this evening I moved my toddler son away from an off lead large dog (not XL bully but IMO still capable of doing damage) and the owner told me I was stupid and started bitching about me to another dog walker nearby! I didn't respond. Why can't they go to dog fields, instead of being 6 foot from the gate of a playground. No attempt to call dog away either.

You're taking the piss right? A Rotty or Doberman are no longer bred to be psychos in this country and haven't been for a long time. They're also both incredibly intelligent and command led dogs.

XL bullies are thick as their own 💩 volatile and incredibly easily triggered.

To the point that if you have one, most people now assume the owners are the same (I dont care who you are reading this, if you have one, you're a walking neon sign for the local chav brigade - and probably have a crushed velvet couch).

Oh for goodness sake. Zzzzz

A whistle will do naff all to a bully breed. They dont have a prey drive. They have a kill drive. And they'll be more inclined to jump at you with the whistle.

Social Services will (rightly) intervene where children are living with a dangerous/abusive man.

Why don’t they intervene where children are living with these dogs?