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Anyone else just wish these xl bullies would disappear?

465 replies

Mayaamelia · 13/10/2024 17:34

I know I’m not the only one and don’t think I am being unreasonable tbh but didn’t know where else to post this.

In the past week or so there have been five serious attacks in the UK but what we have plastered all over the news is the police apologising to a deluded xl bully owner, when he’s the one who failed to do as he’s told.
What kind of message does that send?

The other day armed police were called to Stockport because of a dangerous dog and three people were injured. There’s only one little article about it in the Star. When did this ever used to happen in this country? It’s not normal.

I just don’t see why normal, decent people should have to live in fear of these scumbags and their dangerous dogs. Nothing is being done, how can something be banned if there are exemptions?
When the dogs do attack, the owners get months in prison which is the equivalent to a slap on the wrist.

It’s like being in possession of something worse than a loaded gun or a lion. Nobody’s allowed pepper spray though - you can get 4 years in prison just for carrying it apparently.
If they at least increased the jail time maybe that would deter people from owning these dangerous dogs.

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Coruscations · 14/10/2024 08:43

Alucard55 · 14/10/2024 08:16

Even the ones who rape and murder?

The quote related to men as a species.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 14/10/2024 08:47

Where I work we have had lots of XLs come in for neutering and we take the muzzles off once admitted. Sometimes we pop them back on to do a procedures but mostly they stay off.

We also have XLs brought in by police or dog wardens that have been seized or found straying and they can't legally be rehomed, so they are in for euthanasia.

Almost all have been sweethearts, and it's a shame. The ones that haven't been sweethearts have exhibited a bit of kennel guarding - which many dogs of all breeds do.

overindulged · 14/10/2024 08:52

Nezuko22 · 13/10/2024 19:41

I don’t think any dog should be kept as a pet, I think dogs should have jobs. An XL bully would be great at protecting live stock for example. It’s bred to kill, which is why keeping them cooped up in a domestic setting will probably cause them to snap.

Yeah that sounds like a viable plan...

Breed and train a litter of guide dog puppies....on average 65% make the grade. What we doing with the other 35% that don't?

Cattery · 14/10/2024 08:53

Arsehole dogs owned by arsehole people. The dogs have probably got a higher IQ

Alucard55 · 14/10/2024 08:54

HRTQueen · 14/10/2024 08:33

I think you have answered your own question

humans do breed these dangerous dogs (most likely to be men) but it’s humans that do

as we are the superior species, with a huge amount of faults but dogs are not equal to humans

So instead of people saying these dogs are vile and evil we should maybe focus on the men who breed/inbreed and abuse them to be that way.

We could PTS every single Xl tomorrow and man would continue to think up horrific ways to create dangerous dogs. Men/humans are the root of this problem.

MidnightBlossom · 14/10/2024 08:56

I don't like the breed. Any dog, regardless of size, can be dangerous in the wrong hands or the wrong circumstances. But XL bullies have been bred to reduce their bite inhibition, and their power and strength makes them lethal.

Saying that, I met one properly in the summer. I was extremely nervous - and I say that as an experienced dog owner. However he was exceptionally well behaved and his owner had him under tight control. He was muzzled and strap harnessed and he was watching him constantly. He said that him and his wife had spent a lot of time on training and socialising the dog. Lucky dog to have owners that are prepared to take their responsibilities seriously.

Shiningout · 14/10/2024 08:57

Alucard55 · 14/10/2024 08:54

So instead of people saying these dogs are vile and evil we should maybe focus on the men who breed/inbreed and abuse them to be that way.

We could PTS every single Xl tomorrow and man would continue to think up horrific ways to create dangerous dogs. Men/humans are the root of this problem.

But we can't get rid of humans or men, so we need to surely get rid of these terrifyingly dangerous dogs to at least make the streets safer for people???

Shiningout · 14/10/2024 08:57

Alucard55 · 14/10/2024 08:54

So instead of people saying these dogs are vile and evil we should maybe focus on the men who breed/inbreed and abuse them to be that way.

We could PTS every single Xl tomorrow and man would continue to think up horrific ways to create dangerous dogs. Men/humans are the root of this problem.

But we can't get rid of humans or men, so we need to surely get rid of these terrifyingly dangerous dogs to at least make the streets safer for people???

Newgirls · 14/10/2024 08:57

We’ve been in France for a few weeks and it’s so nice to see small well behaved dogs. Far fewer than in the uk and well trained. No dog poo on pavements. Walking to heel. Yes the uk has a dog problem - poor owners and far too many

ZippyLimeSnake · 14/10/2024 08:58

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 08:29

@ZippyLimeSnake

www.spectator.co.uk/article/blame-the-breed-not-the-owner-the-truth-about-american-bully-xls/

I do hope you're complying with the rules of the ban.

I do comply with everything they have put in place and will continue to do so.

Inspireme2 · 14/10/2024 09:01

Prescottdanni123 · 13/10/2024 19:07

To the people saying that 'it's the owner, not the dog' is a load of rubbish, where do you think these dog's came from? They didn't just fall from the sky,they are the way they are because humans originally bred them to be like that in the first place. And for some individual dogs, it has become genetic.So however you look at it, this entire situation is the fault of humans.

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I agree!
Revolting animals.

HRTQueen · 14/10/2024 09:08

I do not think anyone on here is going to argue against that many men are violent/abusive/create dangerous situations and so on

who wouldn’t support harsh sentences for people that breed dangerous dogs and no doubt a more dangerous breed shall come about because of people (most likely men) creating another dangerous breed and once again they shall have to be destroyed

maybe if fewer people bought these breeds of dangerous dogs and didn’t defend their ownership make foolish claims the dogs are misunderstood it would be a start in the right direction but it won’t stop as some people are idiots who like to have big extremely powerful dogs that have a reputation

but your argument was why support pts of xl bullies when we allow men to live as they cause harm, kill rape etc is flawed you can’t equate humans with dogs

Sandybeaches5 · 14/10/2024 09:08

ZippyLimeSnake · 13/10/2024 18:53

Please don’t come at me for what I am about to say.. But in a lot of cases it is the owner not the breed, I have an XL Bully and honestly he is the biggest dope and all he wants is for you or anyone to just love him. Yes they’re powerful and sadly for them they did eventually become a status dog and fall into the wrong hands. Unfortunately the media also only like to ever tell you when an XL bully has attacked where as other dog attacks the breed is nearly always never stated another thing I have come to notice is that not always if the breed correct when they state it’s been an XL bully, there have been occasions where it’s actually a mix breed. It is sad the dogs and us owners have gotten a bad rep as a lot of us and our dogs are really not bad. None of us wanted our dogs to become banned and put under the dangerous dog act as a lot of our dogs are not dangerous and to be entirely honest banning a breed doesn’t sort out the issue as another dog will eventually become a status dog. Cane Corso have been extremely popular since the XL ban. What does need to happen is some form of license for people to own any breed of dog as they all pose a risk an XL isn’t the only dog to ever of killed someone and they won’t be last.

I am not being biased as I totally agree these dogs are strong and yes can totally be dangerous with the wrong owners but getting completely rid of one breed will not stop another taking its place.

ALL dogs can be dangerous if they suddenly turn on you, but XL bullies are more than capable of killing an adult with ease, never mind a child!

You might think your lovely dog is dopey and loveable, and he probably is. BUT, you have no idea if and when he could suddenly snap and attack you or someone else. He's an animal, and you can't take that instinct away.

Mischance · 14/10/2024 09:09

It beggars belief that people are allowed to wander the streets with these animals.
I think I'll try it with a tiger and see what happens!!

Rubyupbeat · 14/10/2024 09:10

New type of breed, French bulldogs bred like xl bullies, but in minature. They are the scariest breed I have seen, yellow eyes and henched up naturally from puppies. I am a dog owner and dog lover, but these are a horrible sight to behold, bred by ex cons, used for many different things and some can go from 10 grand upwards. They look like demons and are vicious.
Get rid of one breed and another will quickly take its place.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 14/10/2024 09:10

I have an XL Bully and honestly he is the biggest dope and all he wants is for you or anyone to just love him.

Until he turns on you and kills you as has happened to more than one owner

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13500719/amp/woman-killed-xl-bully-lost-arm-cctv-incident.html

TheYearOfSmallThings · 14/10/2024 09:12

I feel sorry for the animals themselves because is not their fault, but yes - they never should have been bred, and it would be better if they all ceased to exist immediately before their traits are passed on.

I also wish the people who created them and choose to keep them would disappear. I am pretty sure the loss to society would be nil.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 14/10/2024 09:21

Rubyupbeat · 14/10/2024 09:10

New type of breed, French bulldogs bred like xl bullies, but in minature. They are the scariest breed I have seen, yellow eyes and henched up naturally from puppies. I am a dog owner and dog lover, but these are a horrible sight to behold, bred by ex cons, used for many different things and some can go from 10 grand upwards. They look like demons and are vicious.
Get rid of one breed and another will quickly take its place.

What breed do you mean? Do you mean pocket bullies?

autienotnaughty · 14/10/2024 09:21

There should be dog licenses and categories for types of breeds with restrictions on who can own certain breeds.. All breeders should be registered and regulated .

None breeding dogs should be sterilised.

ZippyLimeSnake · 14/10/2024 09:34

Sandybeaches5 · 14/10/2024 09:08

ALL dogs can be dangerous if they suddenly turn on you, but XL bullies are more than capable of killing an adult with ease, never mind a child!

You might think your lovely dog is dopey and loveable, and he probably is. BUT, you have no idea if and when he could suddenly snap and attack you or someone else. He's an animal, and you can't take that instinct away.

& I do completely agree with you! I would never ever trust him nor any dog 100% no matter the breed. My nans dog attacked me when I was a child as I accidentally tripped over her, I think she was a spaniel, my nans had so many dogs I’ve lost count but I think that’s the breed she had at the time. & I fell over her playing in the garden and the dog came & attacked me. My son when he was younger got bitten outside a cafe by someone’s shitzu who apparently had never done that before. 2 random dogs whilst I’ve been out walking mine have tried to attack my dog whilst he was doing his business. So I agree, dogs are animals and they do run on instinct and sometimes they switch. But that can happen with many other breed as well. I follow a charity who tries to save seized dogs and yes before the ban many XLs appeared on their page but another big breed that was constantly on their for biting people usually their owners were Rottweilers yet you don’t see people wanting to mass cull these.

As I said in my previous post, 9/10 when an XL Bully attacks someone it is always stated what they are, yet whenever it is another breed they’re rarely stated.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 14/10/2024 09:37

ZippyLimeSnake · 14/10/2024 08:19

I originally wanted a Newfoundland, but was struggling to find any breeders locally and the breeders that I did find were either hours and hours away or had no planned litters due. A friend of mine said her friends dog had just had puppies and thus we ended up with our dog after a few visits of seeing mum and dad.

Sorry if this feels like an attack on you - but another interested in the mindset, did you research the breed and risks before buying or was it you knew your friend and the puppy’s parents?

Other than size, it seems you were after a very different type of dog - Newfoundlands are personality wise not like XL bullies.

Mayaamelia · 14/10/2024 09:44

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 14/10/2024 07:21

The other day armed police were called to Stockport because of a dangerous dog and three people were injured

By the police or the dog?

When the dogs do attack, the owners get months in prison which is the equivalent to a slap on the wrist

Well instead of sending people to overcrowded prisons for months on end, at huge public cost, perhaps judges could just sentence people to be slapped on the wrist instead if there is no material difference. It would help solve a lot of problems.

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By the dog obviously

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ZippyLimeSnake · 14/10/2024 09:45

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 14/10/2024 09:10

I have an XL Bully and honestly he is the biggest dope and all he wants is for you or anyone to just love him.

Until he turns on you and kills you as has happened to more than one owner

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13500719/amp/woman-killed-xl-bully-lost-arm-cctv-incident.html

Okay, but let’s take a deeper look into the article. Here is something that stood out to me…
All four dogs, understood to be two XL Bullies and two ­Staffordshire Bull Terriers, were described as being 'extremely aggressive'.

So she had not just one aggressive dog but all four of them, to me that seems like there is a bigger picture.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 14/10/2024 09:48

Mayaamelia · 14/10/2024 09:44

By the dog obviously

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It wasn't at all obvious.

HRTQueen · 14/10/2024 09:51

Ffs other breeds are mentioned Zippy

I am not apologising for calling out the stupidity of all owners of these dogs that’s part of the problem not offending supposedly responsible owners 🙄 it’s irresponsible having such dogs

point has yet again been proven on this thread