Anyone else just wish these xl bullies would disappear?

[Mayaamelia]

I know I’m not the only one and don’t think I am being unreasonable tbh but didn’t know where else to post this.

In the past week or so there have been five serious attacks in the UK but what we have plastered all over the news is the police apologising to a deluded xl bully owner, when he’s the one who failed to do as he’s told.
What kind of message does that send?

The other day armed police were called to Stockport because of a dangerous dog and three people were injured. There’s only one little article about it in the Star. When did this ever used to happen in this country? It’s not normal.

I just don’t see why normal, decent people should have to live in fear of these scumbags and their dangerous dogs. Nothing is being done, how can something be banned if there are exemptions?
When the dogs do attack, the owners get months in prison which is the equivalent to a slap on the wrist.

It’s like being in possession of something worse than a loaded gun or a lion. Nobody’s allowed pepper spray though - you can get 4 years in prison just for carrying it apparently.
If they at least increased the jail time maybe that would deter people from owning these dangerous dogs.

That is absolute nonsense

of course other very serious dog attacks and deaths from the attack it’s reported and breed of dog is reported (on occasion incorrect at first)

but within the last few years the vast majority are from XL’s and they are certainly not large numbers of these dogs about thankfully but still far too many. no one would stand a chance of one of these dogs attacked and how many adults would it take to drag one of these dogs off a child being attacked

your defending of the breed is ridiculously stupid

@Moujojojo

No it's not always the owner. Idiotic humans have bred them so extensively to be aggressive in the years gone by that it has become genetic in some dogs. Which sadly means that good dog owners end up in the situation your sister and her child did. I'm sorry that happened to them and I hope that they are both doing well now, horrible situation all around.

I agree they should all be rounded up and put down. As for the “no bad dogs only bad owners” trope yes bad owners don’t help but they are also attracted to vicious breeds. How many golden labs or cocker spaniels savage people or animals to death? These xl bully things, pit bulls etc are not pets.

While I would be happy to get a dog licence - as well as preventing a lot of dog attacks on humans, it would stop a lot of human abuse towards dogs - how could we possibly police this?

Google “Toadline bulldogs” and tell me we’re a nation of dog lovers.

Thankyou, they are well but it took years for her son to feel comfortable around dogs again.
They now have a dopey spaniel who he loves.

Really sorry but I think all need to be put to sleep under law.

They should be PTS. I think the argument about whether it’s the owners or the dogs is a bit meaningless- maybe they would be safer in the hands of better owners but as we have no way to ensure only good owners can have them, nobody should have them.

Them and their owners 😔.

I'm sick of hearing how nice and friendly everyone's dog is too. I'll still don't want it in my space, thanks.

The "it's the lower not the dog" reasoning could be said about anything dangerous, from knives to nuclear weapons. They're dangerous.

Agree. Don’t buy the “there are no bad dogs, just bad owners” bollocks because otherwise we’d be hearing stories of chihuahuas and labradors attacking children. No, it’s always XL bullies because they were literally bred to do this.

I don’t think any dog should be kept as a pet, I think dogs should have jobs. An XL bully would be great at protecting live stock for example. It’s bred to kill, which is why keeping them cooped up in a domestic setting will probably cause them to snap.

I love dogs. Have 2 myself but I would fully support a mass cull on XL bullies. They aren't like normal dogs, they can turn at the drop of a hat hence why owners have been mauled by their own dogs.

The sheer arrogance and stupidity of the owners is horrendous too. They are all a complete danger to society and I worry that people are become so accustomed to hearing these stories now that nobody is really surprised anymore.

I don't know what the answer is or what it'll take but yadnbu to feel like this.

I hope we're not reading about you torn to shreds by your "biggest dope" any time soon. Plenty of owners have been torn apart by their great big fur babies. All these dogs have never hurt anyone ...until they have!

what about the dogs that chase postal people and bite them, yes they may not do as much damage but they still attack

A man was attacked by an XL Bully last week in my town’s high street. It’s very near to my child’s nursery. If it’s the dog I think it is, I’ve seen it about when I’ve dropped her off in the morning. It wasn’t muzzled.

*edited for grammar

"It's the owner not the dog."

And what kind of owner deliberately chooses the biggest scariest dog with a reputation for killing people, which has only been created to get around the pit bull bans?

I think a lot of people’s frustration with this now is that the media really bigged these new laws up as being water tight, amazing, a problem solver. And actually in practice they just aren’t.

There are 2 in my local area which have never been an issue and are lovely dogs, there are also 3 which are not and known not to be. The owners of those 3 never have the dogs muzzled, let them off lead to run around in the park etc, and they’ve been reported numerous times by numerous people. But the reality is that the police don’t even have the man power to attend everything, so when someone calls from our local park to say there’s an XL Bully here off lead, no muzzle, the police might make a note of it but they certainly aren’t rushing down. I’ve seen this happen myself multiple times, people see the dogs and calling the police in a panic because this IS against the law, but when the police have 1 set of men left to dispatch and there’s an ongoing robbery/assault/break in/fire etc somewhere and a dog running around in the park not actually hurting anyone albeit it shouldn’t be running there- the police are not coming to see the dog.

There’s also the fact that when the dog hasn’t or isn’t actively hurting anyone the police really don’t seem bothered about doing anything. I’ve posted before to say we were at the beach awhile back and there were 2 lads with XL Bullies off lead, no muzzle, sat at the cafe on the beach a few tables over from us. You could see people watching them and there happened to be police in the car park so one woman went to get them obviously thinking/hoping they’d be taken. The police walked over, told the lads they needed to be muzzled and on leads, the lads said ah okay no problem and popped the leads on and walked away, police just went back to their car and drove off. No details taken, no images, no way of tracking who they’ve spoke to/warned and also no sense of any telling off or punishment at all.

The laws could be effective IF we had the powers to actually keep on top of it and attend. There’s just no deterrent at the moment, police only seem to attend once a dog has actually attacked at which point it’s too late.

My family had two dogs in the 1970s and they had to have a licence. Just did a quick google and they were abolished in 1987 as they were thought to be unnecessary. Difficulty policing may have been a part of that but I'm not old enough to have first hand knowledge.

For me we should have laws like they do in Canada, where dogs can only be off lead in public in specialist enclosed areas. I was actually able to go for a run without a dog trying to jump up at me - heaven.

@Nezuko22

Have you ever owned a dog?

What about the hundreds of breeds who are just fine in domestic settings and bring so much joy to their owners? My dog has been the only thing to get me out of the house sometimes. And before you say that the relationship is only beneficial for me, she is loved to bits and has the life of Riley.

Exterminate the lot of them.

For those saying 'it's the owners', firstly a dog can turn very quickly. It takes less than a second. Secondly the type of person that owns them isn't gonna change.

They're generally just used as dick enlargers for insecure men. Bred for aggression. No need for them to exist.

That’s shit. I’m sorry you experience dog owners that don’t follow the rules. I and many of my fellow dog owners do follow the rules but there are always bad eggs, same as people who don’t obey traffic laws or parking restrictions or just general law and order.

I wouldn’t dream of leaving poo bag baubles hanging from trees or letting my dog loose on a beach where it was prohibited. That’s just totally socially irresponsible.

@Penguinmouse

XL bullies aren't aggressive because they are bad. They are aggressive because they have been so intensely bred for it that it has become genetic. And who bred them to be aggressive? Humans. No not all owners are bad, but the dog isn't either. In this circumstances, both dog and human are the victims of stupid humans from years gone by by.