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To take my toddler to my growth scan? No childcare.

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alba146 · 11/10/2024 21:07

Hi everyone,

So I have a growth scan next week for baby. Normally my husband will stay with our toddler but he cannot get off work at all. Just one of those things- never happened before! We don't have much family. And the family/friends we do have are away on holiday. But as we all know, you can't take children to scans, I do understand but seems crazy in respect of single parents and people with no childcare etc.

I did try to rearrange, they said I need the scan in the 7 day period of the date and I have to have a consultant appointment on the same day also. the only other time would've been the same story so wouldn't have helped swapping.

So I thought, it's fine I'll just take her with me, she'll be okay I'll bring something to keep her entertained and her buggy. There genuinely isn't anything else I can do.

I asked the woman if this was okay, she just shut it down and said under no circumstances can she come. I explained and she wasn't budging, but then said she was unable to cancel the scan without approval from consultant as it's very necessary 😵‍💫 I do understand but she was so rude and I genuinely don't know what she wanted me to do (make Mary poppins appear spontaneously perhaps?).

So I am still at square one, scan still stands. I think my toddler would be fine (but again nothing I can do really if she is unsettled☹️).

So AIBU to just take her anyway and see how it goes? If they turn me away they turn me away. It really is ridiculous, I understand with older kids and the possibility of scans having upsetting findings etc. but for babies and toddlers I just don't know? Super stressed and it's made me even more nervous to have 2 under 3 ☹️ wish we had a bigger support network than we do ❤️‍🩹

OP posts:
Gogogo12345 · 11/10/2024 22:52

Pandasnacks · 11/10/2024 22:14

Imagine the bug spreading in that crèche though

Why any more bugs in that cresche rather than any other? The kids aren't ill

ReadingSoManyThreads · 11/10/2024 22:53

I really don't get why they are so strict about this, I remember as a child attending my Mum's US scans.

My eldest child was at all of my midwife appointments as I had a homebirth but she also attended any hospital appointments I had. It didn't occur to me that she may not be allowed, and the midwives never mentioned it as being a problem.

Anyway, tell the woman, you either are bringing toddler, or she cancels the appointment. You do not need permission to cancel an appointment. No aspect of maternity care in the UK is compulsory, you are free to cancel as you wish.

It's not that easy to magic up childcare, something many posters can't seem to comprehend.

Avariceagain · 11/10/2024 22:54

It might be worth trying your nursery again on the day- if one of the other kids calls in sick or is on holiday they might be able to take your little one instead! I did this with mine once when I was really ill, DH was away and I was desperate!

MumChp · 11/10/2024 22:55

Skibideetoilet · 11/10/2024 22:46

Or they are mumsnetters 😅

Imagine ‘school mum I don’t even talk to that much has just dropped on me if I can watch her toddler whilst she attends hospital appt. It’s all a bit last-minute and I don’t really want to. AIBU to not agree?’

All the replies would be ‘What a CF’ ‘No is a full sentence!’ ‘I’d be seriously unimpressed at their lack of organisation. I would never be so ill prepared’ ‘If you don’t want to then that is good reason enough. Assert your FIRM CLEAR BOUNDARIES’ ‘would she have the same time and availability to help you? If not then I wouldn’t help her’ and so on and so on.. 🙃

Or a "yes, I can do that".

We have helped different neighbours and mums at the school run gates with last minute child care more than once. And dog care too.
People know we have 3 children ourselves (two left home for university) so maybe we seem safe to ask. And my husband has all the vetting as a teacher and I have first aid as a RN.

Casuallydresseddeepinconversation · 11/10/2024 22:55

I'm a single mum with no friends or family,I have a 16 month old, for my 12 week scan 2 weeks ago I left her with a childminder, she did initially cry when I left her and ended up being there for 3 hours but she survived, needs must

DniHnly · 11/10/2024 22:56

BeardieWeirdie · 11/10/2024 21:16

You can’t take a toddler. The people measuring your baby can’t do their job with a toddler around; you might hear the worst; other women being told they have lost their much wanted baby deserve to not have a toddler around. Surely you have some mum friends who could watch your toddler for an hour, either at their house or could come to the hospital with you? A retired neighbour? I get it, I’ve no family living anywhere nearby but I’ve also heard the worst at an ultrasound and that experience is not helped by those thinking it’s a nice jolly day out for all the family.

This. It's selfish.

stichguru · 11/10/2024 22:57

I hope you manage to work something out. I sympathise with you because good childcare is majorly hard to find. They won't want a child there because of people getting awful news and I don't think they would break that rule unless you were having a medical emergency right then. I am not making any judgement about what you should do, only you can weight up the risks of having the scan later, or leaving your child with a child carer you hardly know. However don't work on the assumption that if you've tried really hard to get childcare and so they will just have to let you bring your child. Work on the assumption that if you bring the child, you won't have the scan until they have another date available.

CrispieCake · 11/10/2024 22:57

Lavender14 · 11/10/2024 21:43

I think you're really between a rock and a hard place here op and I do think some of the responses you've got on here are unnecessarily harsh.

I also wouldn't be comfortable leaving my child with a stranger - unsettling for the child at best, unsafe at worst.

I think asking your nursery if anyone does private babysitting is your best option in this scenario. Otherwise I'd be asking to rearrange the scan.

I do understand why children aren't allowed but I do think there will be some parents out there who need a degree of flexibility on this to be able to manage. For example it can be really difficult to find babysitting that's suitable for a child with additional needs - in that scenario does a single parent just not access healthcare?

We know women take on the lions share of caring responsibilities, we also know that maternity care is crucial for mum and baby's safety so to me women shouldn't be in a position where they are forced to choose between the safety of their unborn child/themselves and the safety of their older child. There should be a degree of discretion provided people are not taking the piss with it.

This.

Miniopolis · 11/10/2024 22:58

Jooliuy · 11/10/2024 21:12

As much as other people can get on their high horse about it, I'd just take her.
Getting paid childcare isn't as simple as all that, leaving her with a stranger could be very distressing.
What else can you do?

I agree. People are always shitty about this on here.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 11/10/2024 22:59

DniHnly · 11/10/2024 22:56

This. It's selfish.

It's not selfish. Yes, there may be women getting bad news, but they will also be faced with pregnant women, babies and toddlers from the moment they walk out the door. Just because they have had a loss, doesn't mean everyone else's life doesn't continue, I've suffered loss myself, and would never expect others to hide away so as not to trigger me, that's just ridiculous.

FiveLoadsFourLiftsThreeMeals · 11/10/2024 23:00

sprigatito · 11/10/2024 21:10

Your husband should be taking the time off if there's no other option, unless he's literally on the international space station or in the Mariana Trench! He's as much a parent as you are.

If you really have no other choice, I'd take her with you. It's understandable that they discourage it, but there are plenty of single parents etc who don't have access to a babysitter and that isn't an acceptable reason to deny you healthcare.

This - if you were in your husband's job, would you just not have the scan because work comes first? He has to take the couple of hours off if the scan is necessary for HIS and your baby because if he doesn't take the minimum time to look after his (and your) toddler the scan probably won't happen, exactly as if you didn't go yourself.

MumChp · 11/10/2024 23:02

ReadingSoManyThreads · 11/10/2024 22:53

I really don't get why they are so strict about this, I remember as a child attending my Mum's US scans.

My eldest child was at all of my midwife appointments as I had a homebirth but she also attended any hospital appointments I had. It didn't occur to me that she may not be allowed, and the midwives never mentioned it as being a problem.

Anyway, tell the woman, you either are bringing toddler, or she cancels the appointment. You do not need permission to cancel an appointment. No aspect of maternity care in the UK is compulsory, you are free to cancel as you wish.

It's not that easy to magic up childcare, something many posters can't seem to comprehend.

Midwife appointments' rules are as far as I understand different from doctor appointments' rules.
They were with my 3 pregnancies.

We got permission to bring our oldest to docyors' appointments in my last pregnancy. The midwives were always happy to let her join.

The consultants were NO WAY until they realised she was 16 yo and her future plan was to become a midwife. It was writen in my file she could atttend with my husband. Not on her own.
She did become a midwife - and loves her job.

Beepbeepoutoftheway · 11/10/2024 23:04

Casuallydresseddeepinconversation · 11/10/2024 22:55

I'm a single mum with no friends or family,I have a 16 month old, for my 12 week scan 2 weeks ago I left her with a childminder, she did initially cry when I left her and ended up being there for 3 hours but she survived, needs must

Every child minder in my area is fully booked so that's not always an answer.

MumChp · 11/10/2024 23:05

ReadingSoManyThreads · 11/10/2024 22:59

It's not selfish. Yes, there may be women getting bad news, but they will also be faced with pregnant women, babies and toddlers from the moment they walk out the door. Just because they have had a loss, doesn't mean everyone else's life doesn't continue, I've suffered loss myself, and would never expect others to hide away so as not to trigger me, that's just ridiculous.

Anyway she was told no by the hospital.
Rules are only to be followed if we like them?

snappyfishe · 11/10/2024 23:05

Jooliuy · 11/10/2024 21:12

As much as other people can get on their high horse about it, I'd just take her.
Getting paid childcare isn't as simple as all that, leaving her with a stranger could be very distressing.
What else can you do?

You can’t take children to growth scans. They’ll send OP home.

SarcasticIntrovert · 11/10/2024 23:07

Haven't read all.of the comments but you seem to be getting a very hard time. For what it's worth I took my pretty newborn baby in a pram for some kind of ultrasound scan. I can't for the life or me remember what it was or why I had no one to come with me but the Nurse was epic and was literally rocking the pram with one hand whilst speaking to me and doing the scan. I wish I'd had the presence of mind to get her name and thank her through other channels, although she'd probably have got into trouble for breaching protocols. She totally got it though. The hospital/centre may or may not facilitate it but you've done what you can by turning up. Sorry,I forgot to check how old your child is before I posted, but if they'll sit still with a bag of snacks for a little bit you'll hopefully be fine and you'll get someone who realises that life doesn't always go as you'd like it to. I guess there is always a risk that the growth scan shows am issue and then you've got that to manage that as well as a young child, so I can see the concern from that point of view but what can you do really? Hope it goes well for you.

TotHappy · 11/10/2024 23:10

Why the fuck do they have this high horse about children at scans anyway? I've taken my toddlers to midwife appointments, smear tests, normal GP appointments, dentist appointments, consultant appointments in pregnancy, vaccinations, blood tests, everything. I'm not doing it because I think it's a jolly day out, but because I'm their carer. It's always been allowed. Why are sonographers suddenly rendered unable to do their job by the presence of a toddler when I've lain in the dentist chair literally with one on my lap and they've handled it fine?

Beepbeepoutoftheway · 11/10/2024 23:10

FiveLoadsFourLiftsThreeMeals · 11/10/2024 23:00

This - if you were in your husband's job, would you just not have the scan because work comes first? He has to take the couple of hours off if the scan is necessary for HIS and your baby because if he doesn't take the minimum time to look after his (and your) toddler the scan probably won't happen, exactly as if you didn't go yourself.

And if the husband gets a disciplinary/loses his job for taking unauthorised absence, how do you expect him to look after HIS baby with no income?

I wish people would stop making it sound like childcare is so easy.

Gogogo12345 · 11/10/2024 23:14

FiveLoadsFourLiftsThreeMeals · 11/10/2024 23:00

This - if you were in your husband's job, would you just not have the scan because work comes first? He has to take the couple of hours off if the scan is necessary for HIS and your baby because if he doesn't take the minimum time to look after his (and your) toddler the scan probably won't happen, exactly as if you didn't go yourself.

He is away with work for a week so not so easy to take " a couple of hours " off. Or did you not read the post?

ChippyChips1 · 11/10/2024 23:16

My midwife used to meet me at the hospital to sit with my toddler while I had my scans. Unfortunately I was there every 2-4 weeks in the second half of my pregnancy.
Couldn't thank her enough for that!

dreamer24 · 11/10/2024 23:17

TotHappy · 11/10/2024 23:10

Why the fuck do they have this high horse about children at scans anyway? I've taken my toddlers to midwife appointments, smear tests, normal GP appointments, dentist appointments, consultant appointments in pregnancy, vaccinations, blood tests, everything. I'm not doing it because I think it's a jolly day out, but because I'm their carer. It's always been allowed. Why are sonographers suddenly rendered unable to do their job by the presence of a toddler when I've lain in the dentist chair literally with one on my lap and they've handled it fine?

Totally agree with this.

UdderlyBaffled · 11/10/2024 23:18

I don’t really get the big deal. I’ve taken mine and just kept her strapped in the pushchair with plenty of snacks. They ask you not to at my trust too but do seem to understand that’s not always possible and have always been fine with it on the day

widelegenes · 11/10/2024 23:19

Don't you know any of the other parents at the nursery? Even if you don't know them very well, if they're in the same room as your toddler then the children will know each other so that would ease your mind.

It's early days yet, but it really will be a help if you at least have some numbers of people you can call in an emergency. With 2 children and a husband who maybe can't easily take time off just knowing you can call a neighbour to step in would be helpful.

Sweepsthepillowclean · 11/10/2024 23:19

LucyLocketLovesPollyPocket · 11/10/2024 22:47

Mine was, home birth. Surprisingly, no child care for dc1, not much choice. It was actually brilliant. I got a post shower birth and then ate domino's pizza in bed while breastfeeding dc2 and cuddling dc1. Fecking perfect.

Does sound pretty perfect! I meant in a hospital situation though, I thought it wouldn’t be allowed.

TheBirdintheCave · 11/10/2024 23:22

When I was in this situation I asked in our local childcare FB group and found a woman who does babysitting on the side (works full time in a nursery). I paid for her to come round early to meet my son and within half an hour they were playing a game and I went off to the appointment with him cheerily waving goodbye. He had just turned three at the time.