To think that gay and lesbian people should be able to have a conference in peace

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Transactivists have tried to disrupt the LGBA conference by releasing insects into the venue. It's disgusting . Because they don't think gay men and lesbians should be allowed to meet peacefully without them.

No one is stopping transpeople from having events by themselves, why shouldn't gay men and lesbians be able to meet if that's what they want to do? It's just repackaged homophobia - same sex attracted people aren't allowed to have their own conference.

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1844763982453670350

There you go. Any facts you don't like are false. Words mean what you say they mean and everyone must agree to your definition.
You're really just a time wasting troll, but your behaviour on this thread gives us the chance to see just how a typical trans activist thinks and acts.

In brief - the LGB Alliance does not exist because of you, and your insect-throwing friends will have have opened even more eyes to what a nasty cult you're in.

Your reply will be yet more bollocks.

It's absolute bullshit, as is a large proportion of media reporting on trans issues.

What is your view of the Cass report?

It's transphobic to be transphobic

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That makes no sense. You can’t be oppressed by someone, fight back and then be accused of being phobic. That is gaslighting on an industrial scale!

Until the definition of the different sexualities changes legally and in the dictionary, they are in the right about what makes a person gay/lesbian/heterosexual etc.

but again, if you want to give me a clear other definition then please go ahead. I’ll then know where you are coming from. I’m yet to hear it!!

Cass concluded was that there was a lack of evidence that gender affirming interventions improve mental health outcomes, and that more research was needed. A lack of high quality studies. THat's all.

Cross posted.

I'm glad you recognise the lack of evidence. I'm appalled that you think providing healthcare to children with no robust evidence to support that healthcare is OK - 'that's all' in your words.

Then I am sure posters and readers will be very happy to apply that same rigour to what they feel is 'homophobic'.

Shall people just repeat your sentiment with the words changed if you deny homophobia?

And if you are operating under your very own personal definition to categorise transphobia, I guess readers will have to understand that just because you, personally, say something is transphobic doesn't mean that it obectively and materially is.

Me refusing to give up my sex based rights to a group who argue that sex isn't relevant to them is not a phobia.

It's relevant, yes, but not necessary for me to dissect all the problems I see in the Cass report.

Regardless, all Cass ultimately really concluded was - as above - that there is an absence of high quality , robust evidence on outcomes associated with the provision of PBs and CSHs to children experiencing gender dysphoria, and that more evidence is needed.

Then I am sure posters and readers will be very happy to apply that same rigour to what they feel is 'homophobic'.

Yes, exactly. And misogynistic.

So much this

So manipulative.

What can one do.

You can’t be oppressed by someone, fight back and then be accused of being phobic. That is gaslighting on an industrial scale!

Isn't it just. Well said @Drfosters

But this is exactly what is happening to women and to LGB members of society.
We're all being told off for attempting to keep the levels of protection we have legally been given.

And if you are operating under your very own personal definition to categorise transphobia, I guess readers will have to understand that just because you, personally, say something is transphobic doesn't mean that it obectively and materially is.

Yes. I can understand explain exactly why I think elements of gender identity ideology are homophobic and misogynistic, and back it up with evidence. Not just make thought terminating assertions.

I trust what they say in court over what they say outside of it. If you have a link any evidence on the submission to the Charity Commision that it was submitted and accepteed rather than you just "believe" it, I'll consider it.

That said...

LGB people really aren't transphobic as a group. They are less likely to be transphobic than almost any other group.

Some gay and bisexual people are transphobic - enough to fill a conference hall, for sure.

The evidence that the LGB Alliance presented in court suggests that their supporters are predminantly straight, but even if they weren't, they are still just useful idiots, supported by the very worst ant-LGBT commentators and organisations in the UK and US.

Perhaps if they become a membership organisation rather than a Tufton St anti-trans group backed by the very worst of the far right, we'll get a clearer picture of who actually supports them.

I doubt you will.

But please do send all your evidence that you found convincing to the relevant research bodies in Sweden, Finland, German, Denmark, Norway and I believe the Nederlands (could be wrong on that one) as well as Dr Cass, because they seem to have missed your convincing and robust evidence.

So back to the OP. Should gay and lesbian people (or women) be able to have a conference in peace? Without being harassed by accusations of transphobia, of pretending to be gay, or by having insects released?

The Equality Act thinks they should.

26 Harassment
(1) A person (A) harasses another (B) if—
(a) A engages in unwanted conduct related to a relevant protected characteristic, and
(b) the conduct has the purpose or effect of—
(i) violating B's dignity, or
(ii) creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for B.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/26

Thank you for your (unsolicited) recommendations for what I should do with my research.😆

You can’t be oppressed by someone, fight back and then be accused of being phobic. That is gaslighting on an industrial scale!

Absolutely. It is gaslighting and it's important to bear in mind what sort of personality types engage in gaslighting, and that it's generally done to destabilise people.

Perhaps you should do your own research since you have been so very confident and specific about this.

And maybe you should stop spreading misinformation.

You are welcome.

It must be very good though from your posts, so because of that, all those countries who have found there is only very weak evidence must have missed it.

And I think that we would ALL benefit from seeing it.

Thank you for your (unsolicited) recommendations for what I should do with my research.

I won't post my recommendations of what you should do with your research, as I suspect they may be considered uncivil.

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And maybe you should stop spreading misinformation.

That would be nice, wouldn't it!

Do you think your sarcasm makes you sound clever? Or does it just make you feel better to be rude to people because they have a different opinion to you?

And yes, it was an act of homophobia to release insects at the LGB Alliance OP.

And Piggle if you have a different opinion to me, I encourage you to post the evidence that you have found that shaped that opinion.

That is not me being 'rude'. That is me encouraging you to actively counter wrong decisions made by multiple countries based on the evidence that you found convincing.