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To report my private school friend?

448 replies

Reeeeee · 02/10/2024 14:55

I have a friend, we will call her Polly for the purpose of this thread. Polly and I both send our children to an esteemed private school. This term, we were given the option to pay fees up front, which we both did. Polly gets a sizeable discount for her DD as she is part of the bursary scheme at the school. This morning, Polly and I were discussing the Fees in Advance scheme, and she gleefully told me that she no longer needs to hide her income from the bursar as she won’t be assessed again. She admitted she has been hiding maintenance from her ex (over £1,000 a month) as well as self-employed income.

I do not want to see her DD disadvantaged or for any negative repercussions to befall her. However, I feel livid that my friend has scammed the school in this way. My husband and I work incredibly hard to send our DD to the school and it’s not always easy, we have to make sacrifices and go without. Suffice to say, I won’t be spending time with Polly again.

OP posts:
Othergirlswereneverquitelikethis · 02/10/2024 16:06

Andwhatfreshhellisthis · 02/10/2024 15:07

My child’s bursary does not include maintenance from my ex husband or my income from my new partner it specifically states this on the form. I double checked it and was told no, the income from your ex can’t be relied on - if he loses his job etc you get nothing. When I queried my new partner moving in and declaring his income I was told if he doesn’t have legal responsibility for her as a parent - I don’t include it.

yet both are considered for university funding 🤷‍♀️

That doesn’t make any sense. I can understand not including a new partner who doesn’t have parental responsibility but why would your ex be any more likely than anyone else to lose his job? By that logic no one’s income can be relied on because anyone could lose their job.

MuttsNutts · 02/10/2024 16:09

If you feel that strongly about it you should have the balls to speak to her about it in person, especially as you called her a friend.

Report her or don’t report her but to do so anonymously is a cowardly thing to do and I have little more respect for a coward than a cheat.

Doltontweedle · 02/10/2024 16:10

Janedoe82 · 02/10/2024 15:36

How will the school prove it?? Let it go.

This. What will reporting do? Loads of self employed people fiddle their books. If she was paid cash and it was undeclared then the only ‘evidence’ they have is your say so. And you say she’s not even doing it anymore so there’s no way to catch her out now. Also I’m pretty sure child maintenance isn’t considered

LBFseBrom · 02/10/2024 16:11

It hardly impacts you.

I wish people would not confide such things to their dear 'friends'. They only cause resentment and some friends might talk to others, or even post about it on social media!

Never let your right hand know what your left is doing.

Op, If Polly is your friend, don't cut her off for this. Nobody has died for goodness sake.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 02/10/2024 16:13

Reeeeee · 02/10/2024 15:30

She said she gets cash she doesn’t put through her books as well as putting through high expenses so her overall income appears much lower. She said she did this specifically to hide it from the bursar and is pleased she doesn’t need to anymore!

She won’t know it is me as I will tell the school in a few months as a PP suggested, or I will report it anonymously. She was saying this loudly in a public area so others could have heard as well.

But if you stop being friends with her she might work it out from that.

Seems a bit pathetic to me. But not dissimilar to private school parents’ behaviour.

Thank god I only went to a v minor private school for a few years whereas most of the other parents were Catholic unlike mine (divorced twice, working DM) and yes, they did bitch and talk about each other/staff/pupils.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 02/10/2024 16:15

MuttsNutts · 02/10/2024 16:09

If you feel that strongly about it you should have the balls to speak to her about it in person, especially as you called her a friend.

Report her or don’t report her but to do so anonymously is a cowardly thing to do and I have little more respect for a coward than a cheat.

Yep, pull up your big girl knickers and speak to your “friend” yourself, don’t snitch/report on her.

Namechangey23 · 02/10/2024 16:16

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hydriotaphia · 02/10/2024 16:16

Realistically if she is getting payments in cash and not declaring them, what can the school prove? The maintenance income from the ex at least there is a paper trail.

Viviennemary · 02/10/2024 16:16

SouthLondonMum22 · 02/10/2024 15:07

It’s someone trying to get their child ahead in an already unfair system. I doubt I’d say anything.

I agree. Bursaries are all a bit of a con. Only those 'in the know' apply.,

MissyB1 · 02/10/2024 16:17

MuttsNutts · 02/10/2024 16:09

If you feel that strongly about it you should have the balls to speak to her about it in person, especially as you called her a friend.

Report her or don’t report her but to do so anonymously is a cowardly thing to do and I have little more respect for a coward than a cheat.

This 👆 don't be a sneaky coward OP.

And don't pretend you care about her kid, you clearly don't.

Drttc · 02/10/2024 16:17

Polly has behaved poorly, but that doesn’t mean you need to risk hurting a child to make things right (in your eyes). If you do, I’ll wager one day someone will return the favour and you’ll remember your own cold approach towards your collateral damage (Polly’s daughter).

Merryoldgoat · 02/10/2024 16:20

Sorry, can you clarify @Reeeeee - she used the FIA scheme but her child receives a bursary?

Whatfreshhellisthis2 · 02/10/2024 16:21

Any chance this is an ill advised stealth boast ( lie) by Polly?

maybe she doesn’t like the fact she’s skint and she is bizarrely trying to show you she actually has lots of cash?

I find it odd that someone would openly admit this.

PepaWepa · 02/10/2024 16:21

Reeeeee · 02/10/2024 15:46

I’m not really bothered what happens to her, I can’t abide cheats and scammers. My husband and I have more wealth than most, but we’re not rolling in it, we haven’t been on holiday for years and have the same cars we had when we met, we’ve sacrificed to afford to send our DD. Then there is Polly, who believes she’s entitled to fraud the school and other tax payers.

You sound determined to do it anyway, so why ask.

Leave it alone. If you and your husband are so much "wealthier than most", this has no bearing on you or your lives. Let the girl get a good education.

independencefreedom · 02/10/2024 16:22

Reeeeee · 02/10/2024 14:55

I have a friend, we will call her Polly for the purpose of this thread. Polly and I both send our children to an esteemed private school. This term, we were given the option to pay fees up front, which we both did. Polly gets a sizeable discount for her DD as she is part of the bursary scheme at the school. This morning, Polly and I were discussing the Fees in Advance scheme, and she gleefully told me that she no longer needs to hide her income from the bursar as she won’t be assessed again. She admitted she has been hiding maintenance from her ex (over £1,000 a month) as well as self-employed income.

I do not want to see her DD disadvantaged or for any negative repercussions to befall her. However, I feel livid that my friend has scammed the school in this way. My husband and I work incredibly hard to send our DD to the school and it’s not always easy, we have to make sacrifices and go without. Suffice to say, I won’t be spending time with Polly again.

Well a huge number of private school parents will be well used to hiding their income from the taxman, so she's just playing to type.

Maria1979 · 02/10/2024 16:22

I think it would be impossible to prove that she's been cheating tbh so why bother? I get your outrage because I feel the same. I've got a friend who I'm withdrawing from because she does scam the tax payers with her getting benefits from being a single mum w children and declaring pt job whereas she works ft and her DP (declared at another adress) works ft while getting benefits. It makes me sick to my stomach because I know there are people who really are in need.

It's disgusting behaviour and I have thought about this over and over and I can't bring myself to report them so I am slowly and cowardly ghosting instead..

Sheepchops · 02/10/2024 16:23

Ffs. Shall I report my friend? Think about that sentence for a minute. Awful

RobinEllacotStrike · 02/10/2024 16:23

you are NOT her friend - a friend wouldn't do what you want to do.

You'd make a fab Stasi style snitch though.

Maria1979 · 02/10/2024 16:24

independencefreedom · 02/10/2024 16:22

Well a huge number of private school parents will be well used to hiding their income from the taxman, so she's just playing to type.

Not only private school parents as you can see above. But I do have less sympathy for them because they are already priviligied and just want more...

independencefreedom · 02/10/2024 16:24

What about state school parents who suddenly discover their Catholic faith and baptise their child in the hope of getting into a 'better' school? Or cheat about where they live? People cheat all the time in all kinds of ways.

OP - if you're so concerned about injustice what exactly are you doing about it in terms of the wider world?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/10/2024 16:25

Did you intend to show exactly what full fees parents think of those on bursaries or those whom say they can't afford VAT on top?

Starlight7080 · 02/10/2024 16:26

I agree it is very dishonest. But if it will in anyway cause disruption or even the removal of her child from the school. Then i would keep the information to myself .

CasaBianca · 02/10/2024 16:29

SouthLondonMum22 · 02/10/2024 15:07

It’s someone trying to get their child ahead in an already unfair system. I doubt I’d say anything.

FFS do you let people jump the queue ahead of you at theme parks because some families are limited to going to the playground for free?

Bee43 · 02/10/2024 16:32

I would write in an anonymous note, likely they will casually ask for proof of finances and all her withdrawals for the last few years and find out for themselves.

twomanyfrogsinabox · 02/10/2024 16:33

Reeeeee · 02/10/2024 15:30

She said she gets cash she doesn’t put through her books as well as putting through high expenses so her overall income appears much lower. She said she did this specifically to hide it from the bursar and is pleased she doesn’t need to anymore!

She won’t know it is me as I will tell the school in a few months as a PP suggested, or I will report it anonymously. She was saying this loudly in a public area so others could have heard as well.

I'd be more worried about HMRC finding out about the undeclared income. If you want to dob her in tell them. The bursar is the least of her potential problems.

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