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Partner won’t marry me

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Everythingwillbeokk · 29/09/2024 13:06

Partner simply refuses to marry me. He is divorced, has 2 kids. I have never been married, also have 2 kids.

Together for 5 years, lived together for 3. I’ve made it clear I want marriage and commitment, he has made it clear he doesn’t - states he only ever wanted to get married once and it didn’t work out

He also refuses to commit to buying a house together and states it is because he wants only his children to benefit from his estate when he dies. I contribute to his mortgage and when I have really pushed the ‘if you died tomorrow what would you expect?’ He has literally said he would want me to continue paying the entire mortgage and if/when I sell then the entire equity falls to his children - I have told him this will therefore leave me in a position where I will potentially be homeless and elderly. Also he has a good pension set up, again he would not want me to benefit from this in the event of his death.

So I’ve given him an ultimatum - I’ve told him that if there’s no marriage, no commitment in any way, house purchase etc - then I am leaving. I have also started looking at rentals/smaller houses I can buy (I have a small deposit and a good income, I actually earn more than him)

Please someone tell me I am not BU 😓

OP posts:
Snowfalling · 29/09/2024 20:22

@Everythingwillbeokk wow his mask slipped quite quickly!!

Watch out for him backtracking when he realises he's shot himself in the foot, or shat his own nest as @Fob nan would have said. He might use the dc to make you feel guilty or even spring that proposal on you...

BIossomtoes · 29/09/2024 20:22

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2024 20:16

Is it even possible to put a car in two people's names? I thought a car had to have one registered owner.

It does.

Naunet · 29/09/2024 20:22

Choochoo21 · 29/09/2024 20:19

But if you split then anything with both of your names on is going to have to be split/is going to be messy in some way.

Keeping things separate is just easier for everyone involved.

I am worried you are going to get stung in the future.

Why not buy your own home in just your name.

They’ve already split.

GG1986 · 29/09/2024 20:34

Definitely a deal breaker. Especially if he is expecting you to pay the mortgage, you are not and will not benefit from this at all.

smalltoe · 29/09/2024 20:36

@Naunet not sure what your personal beef is but lay off it would you. You are coming across as a bit of a bully

Tae1 · 29/09/2024 20:38

Really unbelievable OP that you are paying more but could be left homeless.

Thank goodness you have finally woken up.
This really is an unbelievable read.

Aquamarine1029 · 29/09/2024 20:44

Everythingwillbeokk · 29/09/2024 19:39

I’m ready for this. I’m also ready for him to start panicking about where his next holiday is coming from - did I mention I fund those too?!

Why? Why would you do that when it's been clear from the start that he was never going to have a true 50/50 relationship with you? Why on earth have you financially supported his kids? You are not even their stepmother and you've been spending money on his kids that should have gone towards your own. That doesn't make you generous, it makes you a mug.

Heatherland77 · 29/09/2024 20:44

I love you!!!
Well done for laying down the line and sticking to it. You are not a free nurse, free housekeeper or free lover.
Marriage exists for a reason.
To protect you in old age.

JeannetteBlue · 29/09/2024 20:47

BirthdayRainbow · 29/09/2024 19:48

Just click on the vote you wanted.

Thank you!! I didn't realise that I could do that! You are kind.

ShouldIEvenBother · 29/09/2024 20:48

I don't understand some of the responses here OP. I think some folk are not reading all your posts.

As far as I can tell, the only thing you've done 'wrong' is be a perfectly reasonable and decent partner to a bloke that does simply does not deserve you. It very much reads as though he has been taking huge advantage of you - in more ways than one.

He'll have to find an alternative way (or person - this is what they do isn't it!), to now fund a lifestyle he can't afford on his own, do all of his own housework, and solo parent his own children. Will be a big shock for him! No doubt the regret, apologies and back-tracking of some sort may start soon enough.

I wish you all the best with finding yourself a new home and moving on with your life. 🌺

ManhattanPopcorn · 29/09/2024 20:48

Given how he is now behaving, clearly you are doing the right thing. Well done!

InterIgnis · 29/09/2024 20:49

Aquamarine1029 · 29/09/2024 20:44

Why? Why would you do that when it's been clear from the start that he was never going to have a true 50/50 relationship with you? Why on earth have you financially supported his kids? You are not even their stepmother and you've been spending money on his kids that should have gone towards your own. That doesn't make you generous, it makes you a mug.

This.

It isn’t ’the right thing to do’ to financially provide for him and his children. It’s being a fool.

Naunet · 29/09/2024 20:52

smalltoe · 29/09/2024 20:36

@Naunet not sure what your personal beef is but lay off it would you. You are coming across as a bit of a bully

All I’ve done is point out where you’ve made inaccurate comments because you didn’t read OPs posts properly. I’m sorry if you see that as bullying.

Ineffable23 · 29/09/2024 20:53

Ignore the crazy answers OP, it sounds like you're being very sensible.

Re airbnbs, you can usually message the owners before you book anything and so you could ask if they would offer a significant discount for a long term let if they are quiet over winter, but I imagine the trouble would be if they have short term Christmas bookings etc.

martinisforeveryone · 29/09/2024 20:54

I'm glad you're moving on. He's not loving, he's treating you as a convenience and a cash point. He's so uncaring and disrespectful when he's spoken to you in the posts above. Unthinkable. Life will be so much better.

Everythingwillbeokk · 29/09/2024 20:54

Naunet · 29/09/2024 20:52

All I’ve done is point out where you’ve made inaccurate comments because you didn’t read OPs posts properly. I’m sorry if you see that as bullying.

Let’s keep it positive all 😊your support it what’s getting me through this. It’s took me a long while to have the guts to tell him how I felt, it’s taking more to keep it going

OP posts:
pikkumyy77 · 29/09/2024 20:56

You are really well out of it, OP! The dismount may be tricky but oh the freedom when you have moved on.

Pancakeorcrepe · 29/09/2024 20:56

You’re well rid of this horrible man.

Everythingwillbeokk · 29/09/2024 21:01

Ineffable23 · 29/09/2024 20:53

Ignore the crazy answers OP, it sounds like you're being very sensible.

Re airbnbs, you can usually message the owners before you book anything and so you could ask if they would offer a significant discount for a long term let if they are quiet over winter, but I imagine the trouble would be if they have short term Christmas bookings etc.

I’m going to ring the estate agents in the local area tomorrow. With thought, the house near to us that came up for rent earlier this year didn’t go on right move for weeks, but was on the local estate agents website within days - I only know this because out of pure interest at how much they were marketing it for I had a look. So I’m thinking maybe if I try to get calls from them directly instead? I’ve got quite a specific area. I’m in a really good financial position, good credit rating, savings - and I can also gain a good reference from my previous letting agency too. Fingers crossed something comes up quickly. I hate that I’m having to do this, but I know it’s the right thing to do, and I have my little team, me and my kids.

The air BnB one I just couldn’t do - it was depressing to say the least. I mean, I’m desperate but I just couldn’t put my kids in there.

OP posts:
Silvertulips · 29/09/2024 21:04

well done for being proactive. I how he realizes what he’s losing for being tight and untruthful.

Why do these men take all and never give? Mind boggles sometimes.

AllThePotatoesAreSingingJingleBells · 29/09/2024 21:05

Choochoo21 · 29/09/2024 20:10

So you won’t put your car in his name but you expect him to put his house in your name?
Can you not see the irony in that?
Surely you can see how he feels, purely because you feel the same with your car.

You have been stung in the past and so it’s important for you to keep some things separate.

He has also been stung in the past and wants to do the same and more importantly he wants to protect his kids.

I don’t understand your reasons for wanting to be married because I too, do not want to get married.

I don’t understand why you couldn’t either live separately, buy your own home and then eventually move in together and rent it out or just get a buy to let property.

But I understand and commend you for having your boundaries and sticking to them (even if they are a bit late).

Your opinion hasn’t changed and neither has his.
Neither of you are in the wrong, you are just incompatible.

I would advise that if you meet someone new in the future and then move them into your home that is in your name, you take time to consider whether you want to put their name on the mortgage or get married.

I know lots of posters would be saying you should put him on your mortgage and get married but you have kids and it’s important that you protect yourself and your future assets.

If you marry a new man and then divorce, he can take half of your property which could leave you and your kids in a very bad position.

Marriage is not that important in the grand scheme of things.

By your way of thinking he would own the car and the house and OP would walk away with the clothes she stands up in.

You can’t jointly own a car. Only one person can own a car. OP has paid for the car. It’s her car.

You can jointly own a house. OPs ex wants her to pay for the house too, just not own any of it.

This isn’t irony. This is you not understanding what irony means.

Silvertulips · 29/09/2024 21:08

If you marry a new man and then divorce, he can take half of your property which could leave you and your kids in a very bad position

No OP would sell her house, ring fence the deposit and pay jointly towards a joint asset.

Which is what she was asking him to do.

FrostFlowers2025 · 29/09/2024 21:08

Everythingwillbeokk · 29/09/2024 13:06

Partner simply refuses to marry me. He is divorced, has 2 kids. I have never been married, also have 2 kids.

Together for 5 years, lived together for 3. I’ve made it clear I want marriage and commitment, he has made it clear he doesn’t - states he only ever wanted to get married once and it didn’t work out

He also refuses to commit to buying a house together and states it is because he wants only his children to benefit from his estate when he dies. I contribute to his mortgage and when I have really pushed the ‘if you died tomorrow what would you expect?’ He has literally said he would want me to continue paying the entire mortgage and if/when I sell then the entire equity falls to his children - I have told him this will therefore leave me in a position where I will potentially be homeless and elderly. Also he has a good pension set up, again he would not want me to benefit from this in the event of his death.

So I’ve given him an ultimatum - I’ve told him that if there’s no marriage, no commitment in any way, house purchase etc - then I am leaving. I have also started looking at rentals/smaller houses I can buy (I have a small deposit and a good income, I actually earn more than him)

Please someone tell me I am not BU 😓

Together for 5 years, lived together for 3. I’ve made it clear I want marriage and commitment, he has made it clear he doesn’t

Why on Earth didn't you end it then and there? Were you hoping he'd change his mind?

Editted to make it make sense.

AllThePotatoesAreSingingJingleBells · 29/09/2024 21:09

@FrostFlowers2025 He future faked her by claiming to be warming to the idea of marriage.

FrostFlowers2025 · 29/09/2024 21:12

AllThePotatoesAreSingingJingleBells · 29/09/2024 21:09

@FrostFlowers2025 He future faked her by claiming to be warming to the idea of marriage.

Edited

Where? I have read and reread OP's post and it seems he was very clear from the get go.