To think incompetent hypocrite Starmer has lost the respect of the people and his own party in record time?

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An excoriating letter from Rosie Duffield who resigned today..

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rosie-duffield-resignation-letter-starmer-labour-b2620603.html#comments-area

Been bad enough for her to resign, I wonder what will happen next. Does she know something we don’t?

I mean, only a handful of the Labour shadow cabinet had ever been in government before. The vast majority of them were elected post 2010. And some of them are very young indeed.

Being a grown up is overrated, and age doesn't necessarily bring wisdom, but "grown ups back in charge" is an odd way to describe electing a bunch of people who have literally never done this stuff before.

They are a bunch of hypocrites. The way they are fighting over who gets which grace-and-favour stately home in sickening.

Too early to tell in terms of policy, but they certainly haven't lived up to their promises to be squeaky clean - and for me that is worse.

Age U.K. doesn’t back your view

We strongly oppose the cut to the Winter Fuel Payment that means only those receiving Pension Credit or other means-tested benefits will receive it. This will leave millions of struggling pensioners without money they rely on.

2.5 million pensioners who badly need the money to stay warm this winter will not receive it and will be in serious trouble as a result.

Cutting the Winter Fuel Payment, with very little notice and no compensatory measures to protect poor and vulnerable pensioners, is the wrong policy choice, and one that will potentially jeopardise the health, as well as the finances, of millions of older people this winter. This is the last thing both they and the NHS need.

I don't doubt you but as I keep saying we all know how people behave differently on the internet compared to rl.

I'm aware of this whole secret Tory voter thing, I'm just pointing out don't believe everything you read on the internet..

I agree. I’d say it is much worse. They’ve rapidly removed the hope that many people had for a better gvt.

Now the hope has gone and all we are left with is hypocrite Starmer and his Merry Bunch of Wankers (description stolen from a pp!)

I don’t really care about most of the donations (we live in a system funded by donors). Tories were worse. However, it is worryingly politically stupid because they branded themselves as the contrast to them.

WFA doesn’t bother me - many people were receiving it on high incomes which is ridiculous in the current climate. Maybe they should have tapered, but then it gets complicated.

I’m giving them more time, at least until first budget and spending review, but I am a little concerned about the cancellation of constructive investments.

If you look at his record as director of public prosecutions he blows around with the wind on decisions. I doubt he has many convictions..did he also over prosecute the riots to make sure the start of his tenure wasn't spoiled? I think so yes.
However I'd be included to wait for the autumn budget as presumably that should show the direction of travel.

Is there a date for publication? Slightly nervous about what's going to be in it!

30 October.

There are nearly 13 million pensioners in the U.K. Fewer than 2 million in receipt of Pension Credit.
DH and I donated ours to the local Foodbank so that isn’t happening this year !

Thanks

That was for @RickyGervaislovesdogs

Reputation is easy to squander and hard to win back.

Starmer and his front bench colleagues need to recognise that these ‘gifts’ were benefits in kind, received because of their jobs in Parliament. They then need to agree to pay income tax on their value and they need to be transparent about how much tax they will pay for these benefits.

In the absence of them volunteering to do this very soon, HMRC need to investigate them and they should be forced to resign for defrauding the taxpayer.

No they really haven't.

Very often, those who are weak but who want to appear strong become overly punitive as a means of compensation.

His treatment of Diane Abbot was disgusting.

Agreed.

It won't be most.

It won't even be all who need it

If one of the two rumours going around on twitter are true, he is more like Boris than any of us could have imagined he would be!

Their Comms is awful, plays right into the hands of the "they are all the same" school of thought. The WFA which did need addressing has been done in a brutal sudden way without reference to the impact assessment which predicts some pensioner deaths as a direct consequence. Heaven help them if we have a bad winter and there are fatalities which can directly be connected with the loss of this payment to all but the poorest. Then there is the cruel two child UC cap, again this is hanging on to the cruelest aspects of Osbourne's austerity measures. As for the gifts and freebies, well they are legal and have been declared but the way it looks is terrible, I was sick of the greed and corruption of the last lot and did hope we could have a year of reasonable behaviour and integrity before life in the Westminster bubble got the better of them, but no, we are what less than 3 months in? and it is all a mess

Am more surprised more didn't see him for the slimy, weak and clueless fool he's proving to be. I didn't think he'd do it so quickly but he's doing it spectacularly.

Well quite. Everyone else would be paying tax on these benefits in kind. He always was going to be a nightmare. The special congratulations need to be saved for the fact he’s damaged the growth being made as he’s talked the economy down so much. Companies I am aware of are also well ahead in relocating employees who want to move. Higher rate tax payers, in STEM. Thanks to the early heads up of what he may do - it has sped everything up. Man is a genius. I am sure VAT on schools fees and the WFA will cover it.

"Does she know something we don’t?"
Yes
There have been all sorts of rumours about something much bigger than the distasteful freebies in return for ... what?
Remember Lord Alli is one of the guys who bought a peerage by 'lending' money to Labour under Blair
So bigger than that

@Weekendsonly

He doesn't seem to have much respect for women MPs. The way he treated Duffield was disgusting too. He has two very respected MPs in Abbott and Duffield, they are both very popular in their constituencies.