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To think incompetent hypocrite Starmer has lost the respect of the people and his own party in record time?

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TealTraybake · 28/09/2024 18:52

An excoriating letter from Rosie Duffield who resigned today..

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rosie-duffield-resignation-letter-starmer-labour-b2620603.html#comments-area

Been bad enough for her to resign, I wonder what will happen next. Does she know something we don’t?

Rosie Duffield’s resignation letter in full

Rosie Duffield has quit as a Labour MP, attacking Sir Keir Starmer’s “cruel and unnecessary policies” and the freebie row engulfing the party.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rosie-duffield-resignation-letter-starmer-labour-b2620603.html#comments-area

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LBFseBrom · 03/10/2024 01:02

He has said he won't accept any more gifts. Anyway the gifts cost us nothing and he declared them all.

EasternStandard · 03/10/2024 07:25

LBFseBrom · 03/10/2024 01:02

He has said he won't accept any more gifts. Anyway the gifts cost us nothing and he declared them all.

He has said he won't accept any more gifts.

Just clothes or is the footy out? And trips for others

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 07:26

TerraFirmaTethered · 02/10/2024 21:30

It definitely goes both ways. Have your posts never criticised posters who don't agree with your views on VAT? I think they have.

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Yes but never swearing or personal as far as I can remember. Definitely not to the extent I've been attracted

EasternStandard · 03/10/2024 07:42

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 07:26

Yes but never swearing or personal as far as I can remember. Definitely not to the extent I've been attracted

Disagreement is ok, your posts are fine

Agree on the rest

Rosscameasdoody · 03/10/2024 07:54

TerraFirmaTethered · 02/10/2024 21:29

That doesn't justify references to 'rabid Labour supporters'. It goes both ways.

Yes, it does.

TerraFirmaTethered · 03/10/2024 10:18

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 07:26

Yes but never swearing or personal as far as I can remember. Definitely not to the extent I've been attracted

So general aggression, name calling and pile ons are okay as long as there is no swearing? There is plenty of that from posters who are outraged by VAT when other posters don’t agree with them. Calling some Labour supporters rabid is just one example of the name calling.

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 10:36

TerraFirmaTethered · 03/10/2024 10:18

So general aggression, name calling and pile ons are okay as long as there is no swearing? There is plenty of that from posters who are outraged by VAT when other posters don’t agree with them. Calling some Labour supporters rabid is just one example of the name calling.

I can show you plenty of times I was sworn at, called names and aggressively gaslight by Labour supporters.

justasking111 · 03/10/2024 10:38

Someone once said when you have to resort to swearing you've already lost the argument.

TerraFirmaTethered · 03/10/2024 10:38

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 10:36

I can show you plenty of times I was sworn at, called names and aggressively gaslight by Labour supporters.

Was it all one way?

EasternStandard · 03/10/2024 10:40

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 10:36

I can show you plenty of times I was sworn at, called names and aggressively gaslight by Labour supporters.

Of course, I’m not sure why people are questioning this

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 10:41

TerraFirmaTethered · 03/10/2024 10:38

Was it all one way?

Yes it was. I defend my pov and am quite happy for debate but to be called a twat etc just because I was arguing my position in criticising Labour policy is not acceptable
You are questioning my experience? Why?

BIossomtoes · 03/10/2024 10:42

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 10:36

I can show you plenty of times I was sworn at, called names and aggressively gaslight by Labour supporters.

Go on then.

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 10:42

EasternStandard · 03/10/2024 10:40

Of course, I’m not sure why people are questioning this

Because yet again it is a Labour supporter minimising their actions against any of us who dare criticise Labour. It is becoming a caricature.

EasternStandard · 03/10/2024 10:43

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 10:36

I can show you plenty of times I was sworn at, called names and aggressively gaslight by Labour supporters.

@twistyizzy just ignore demands for this if you like. Have a cup of tea and relax. It’s more of the same, not worth it.

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 10:44

BIossomtoes · 03/10/2024 10:42

Go on then.

Why should I? Because you don't believe me?
I can list the names I've been called but I don't have to. I can screen shot some of the messages but I don't have to.

BIossomtoes · 03/10/2024 10:44

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 10:44

Why should I? Because you don't believe me?
I can list the names I've been called but I don't have to. I can screen shot some of the messages but I don't have to.

No you don’t. And I don’t have to believe you. 🤷‍♀️

TerraFirmaTethered · 03/10/2024 10:44

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 10:42

Because yet again it is a Labour supporter minimising their actions against any of us who dare criticise Labour. It is becoming a caricature.

This is unpleasant. Do you know when your posts are unpleasant? The caricatures go both ways.

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 10:45

TerraFirmaTethered · 03/10/2024 10:44

This is unpleasant. Do you know when your posts are unpleasant? The caricatures go both ways.

Really? Am I piling on you saying I don't believe you? Am I demanding evidence to support your point? No, I'm not.

twistyizzy · 03/10/2024 10:46

BIossomtoes · 03/10/2024 10:44

No you don’t. And I don’t have to believe you. 🤷‍♀️

Well of course you don't

EasternStandard · 03/10/2024 10:46

Let them search it up if so interested.

@twistyizzy have some BrewOr Cake

BIossomtoes · 03/10/2024 10:47

EasternStandard · 03/10/2024 10:46

Let them search it up if so interested.

@twistyizzy have some BrewOr Cake

Yet another Google it moment! 😂

TerraFirmaTethered · 03/10/2024 10:48

EasternStandard · 03/10/2024 10:43

@twistyizzy just ignore demands for this if you like. Have a cup of tea and relax. It’s more of the same, not worth it.

I have not been rude or aggressive at all. I am merely saying that it all goes both ways and the aggression most certainly does. You are quite happy to overlook someone calling posters rabid because their politics are the same colour as yours. That's all. Do not suggest that I am "more of the same". That's how the little pile ons start.

EasternStandard · 03/10/2024 10:48

Yep go search since you’re joining in and need to know @blossomtoes

Leave @twistyizzy, I believe her and have seen it, it’s unpleasant

TerraFirmaTethered · 03/10/2024 10:51

EasternStandard · 03/10/2024 10:48

Yep go search since you’re joining in and need to know @blossomtoes

Leave @twistyizzy, I believe her and have seen it, it’s unpleasant

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I'm sure the adult poster can speak for herself thank you. I am not "joining in". I have read (too) many of these threads. It is unpleasant both ways.

BIossomtoes · 03/10/2024 10:54

Hopefully this post will see the end of this thread and the pointless argument.

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