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I love my kids but they have not turned out as I hoped

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Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 17:57

I have young adult kids who live at home and I’ve brought them up alone as a single parent (with one day a week contact with their dad) his choice. I had a family who gave some help with childcare if I had to work, I worked part time and always tried to make sure I was there for them helping them doing home work and all the school pick ups. I had their friends round for sleepovers, gave them birthday parties, we had a nice life although on a budget with affordable UK break holidays. They always had clean clothes and food in the house and toys and stuff.

I supported them with their life choices to work retail jobs and not go to uni as I didn’t go to uni myself so no judgement on that. I didn’t have boyfriends move in. They used to help out in the house with chores and get pocket money and we were a team. I’ve done all the lifts here and there, helped them learn to drive. I wasn’t too strict or too lenient on them, they had rules in the house and would lose a device or be expected to apologise for bad behaviour.

the lockdown was the worst thing that happened to our relationship. They were hanging at home all day from college & 6th form with not much to do and I was juggling a very stressful job, the house, money and everything. I worried they were depressed so I tried to make sure they had help and support available to them but they started to act resentful and rude towards me and I probably resent them a bit too now.

I now feel trapped in my own home with rude and disrespectful brats who come and go as they please dropping shit everywhere and yelling at me if I ever ask them to help out. They do zero chores, they trash the house, blame each other for everything. From me going out to work for 9 hours I come back and feel depressed as the house stinks of old food, the bathroom is always disgusting, their rooms are a mess and they just come back home from work or friends, expect to use the washing machine and shower and mess up the kitchen then disappear for a few days. I clear it all up and then it’s nice for a day or 2 then back to being awful. When I try to talk to them they say well am never here, it was my sibling who did other or that they are too busy and have other things to do.

I am not important, I feel like a servant who is just trash to them. Whenever I try to tell them how I am feeling or why my time isn’t important too they just say I’m selfish and make everything about me. I don’t even have high standards. They won’t leave I’ve asked them to move out. I’ve added up that I cleaned up all this mess on Tuesday, Thursday and today and it took about 2-3 hours each time. This involves bleaching the bathroom which is covered in hair, toothpaste, splats of all their products up the walls and mirrors, hoovering the downstairs but first I have to pick everything up like trash spread around, sorting out the cats mess (their cat they never help), finding all the stuff to load into the dishwasher, scraping all the plates that didn’t clean the first time in the dishwasher because they don’t rinse them, taking out all the rubbish which I have to sort into recycling. They block up all the sinks somehow. I don’t even get round to cleaning other stuff like the windows or sorting out the garden because I’m doing all the work indoors.

I know the answer is to throw them out I suppose I believe this is my own fault I have raised these kids and the way they have turned out I only have myself to blame?

OP posts:
Wheredidileavemycarkeys · 28/09/2024 17:59

I know the answer is to throw them out I suppose

Yep.

Pootles34 · 28/09/2024 18:00

No you aren't to blame, but as you say it's time for them to move on - it'll do them the world of good.

AmandaHoldensLips · 28/09/2024 18:01

I was friends with a woman who decided the only solution was for her to move out into a place of her own. When her 2 (adult) kids said "where's our rooms/whatever" she said, "not with me".

You've served your time. Nuclear option is sometimes the only way to go.

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 28/09/2024 18:02

Sometimes you can do everything right raising kids and they can still be disrespectful little twerps.

It sounds like they're taking you for granted. There needs to be an ultimatum: respect me and the home or move out.

Blobblobblob · 28/09/2024 18:03

You don't ask them to go, you tell them. And mean it.

You'll be doing them a favour in the long run.

DillyDallySal · 28/09/2024 18:03

Just announce they are moving out. They will need to sort themselves out and grow up. If they come back with their tail between their legs, they’d at least be humbled. Hopefully though, they’ll fly and it’ll be the beginning of the rest of their lives.

ReacherSaidNothing · 28/09/2024 18:03

If you asked them to leave OP, would they have anywhere to go?

Blanketyre · 28/09/2024 18:04

How old are they. What a shame you didn't encourage them to go to university or college.

QueenMegan · 28/09/2024 18:05

Sounds like you are a brilliant parent. This isnt a you problem its them.
I also raised mine alone work a very busy demanding job. If i come home and the house is a tip rare npw i withdraw privaleges. I will switch off internet or lock kitchen until they clean their mess.

They know i mean business. Its tough do not justify their behaviour. They need to help.

StrongAutumn · 28/09/2024 18:05

Give them advance notice now that you are downsizing next summer.

Get everything lined up - start having a good clear out of your clutter and tell them that they can either take theirs with them or it goes to a charity shop or the tip.

Move to a smaller home with no space for them to live with you. It'll honestly be amazing - for you, for them and for your relationship,

Good luck OP. Sending you love ❤️

Sparkletastic · 28/09/2024 18:05

Do you want to stay in your house? Might an option be to tell them that you are selling up and moving to a one bedroom as you want to downsize and boost your pension? Less personal but achieves the objective.

something2say · 28/09/2024 18:06

Yes, 1st November, off you go.

I'd carve out clean space and clean plates, mugs etc and stay in my lovely clean room for now, let there be no clean plates and stuff like that, no laundry products, and let them immediately reap the rewards of their behaviour.

I think you r been an excellent mum in many ways, but now it's up to them. Higs to you, takeaway and movie for you tonight xxx

Livedandlearned · 28/09/2024 18:06

They have it very easy and don't respect you.

You've done a great job and tried your best throughout their lives.

Time for some tough love and give them a timeline of moving out, 6 months, a year, whatever you feel is reasonable.

JaneFondue · 28/09/2024 18:07

Could they afford to move out? I firmly believe that young adults need to move out, but not always possible.

Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 18:07

Blanketyre · 28/09/2024 18:04

How old are they. What a shame you didn't encourage them to go to university or college.

I did try to encourage it but they didn’t want to. They both did further education but not uni. I could not force them. It was lockdown times during decision making this didn’t help. I didn’t discourage it I just didn’t go hard on them about their decision. I do wish they had gone to uni. I wish this every day!

OP posts:
TheShellBeach · 28/09/2024 18:07

I moved out when mine did this.

They were forced to find their own place. It last three months before they were evicted.

They learned from that. They moved again, and looked after the next place.

Tough love, OP. They tell me now that I'd done the right thing.

Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 18:08

JaneFondue · 28/09/2024 18:07

Could they afford to move out? I firmly believe that young adults need to move out, but not always possible.

No they can’t afford it. I’ve thought about moving out but they can’t afford it between them. They would have to rent a room. I’m ok with that, I think that’s that they need to do. They aren’t leaving when I have told them to leave if they are that miserable here then go

OP posts:
MoveToParis · 28/09/2024 18:09

I know the answer is to throw them out I suppose I believe this is my own fault I have raised these kids and the way they have turned out I only have myself to blame?

Actually, they are to blame for their own choices, and even if you “are to blame” then how does that allocate them permission to trash the place.

JaneFondue · 28/09/2024 18:10

Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 18:08

No they can’t afford it. I’ve thought about moving out but they can’t afford it between them. They would have to rent a room. I’m ok with that, I think that’s that they need to do. They aren’t leaving when I have told them to leave if they are that miserable here then go

Renting a room is perfectly fine. Let them do that. They will respect you more when they are handling their own stuff.

Don't beat yourself up too much. Parenting is hard,especially when single, life is hard, and we can only do our best.

Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 18:12

MoveToParis · 28/09/2024 18:09

I know the answer is to throw them out I suppose I believe this is my own fault I have raised these kids and the way they have turned out I only have myself to blame?

Actually, they are to blame for their own choices, and even if you “are to blame” then how does that allocate them permission to trash the place.

It doesn’t you are right. Mum guilt is overwhelming me. What did I do wrong, what went wrong. Why are we in this situation. Am I potentially facing ruined relationships with my children over disgusting mess. It is a choice why are they like this. I don’t understand it

OP posts:
TheShellBeach · 28/09/2024 18:14

Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 18:12

It doesn’t you are right. Mum guilt is overwhelming me. What did I do wrong, what went wrong. Why are we in this situation. Am I potentially facing ruined relationships with my children over disgusting mess. It is a choice why are they like this. I don’t understand it

OP I'm very neat and tidy, and only one of my four children is.

Some people are just slobs. It isn't anything you did.

muggart · 28/09/2024 18:16

Honestly I think you are taking the mess as a personal insult but you shouldn't. They are just young people being inconsiderate. Im sure they still love and respect you, probably they just aren't mature in this area as they have never lived alone.

By all means move out but don't have some sort of existential crisis and start convincing yourself that you're a terrible mother.

PermanentTemporary · 28/09/2024 18:17

You've done what you can. I would agree that your relationships are likely to improve once you all get some space from each other.

Realistically, can they move out? Do they have incomes?

I'm hoping that a good vent about it has helped a bit. Why not set a goal that they are going to be out by X date, sit down and tell them that and make plans. Sounds like it's going to take weeks or months of badgering but this last investment of time and energy could see you in a peaceful space of your own very soon.

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/09/2024 18:20

They haven't 'turned out' yet. They are still cooking and still learning lessons. And the lesson they badly need to learn is that they can't be arseholes and expect to live in a nice place.

Kick them out, they can live in one pigsty room and they'll learn. Parenting is a marathon, not a sprint and you aren't done teaching them yet.

Whether · 28/09/2024 18:21

Is their dad experiencing the same angst as you? I bet not.

It is not your fault and you’ve been a great parent. If anything, you’re now enabling more than you did when they were younger.

Nothing wrong with a room in a share house. They need to get a grip on reality and some respect for their mother.

They need to be given a deadline to move out. Get angry OP, not guilty and not busy cleaning.