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I love my kids but they have not turned out as I hoped

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Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 17:57

I have young adult kids who live at home and I’ve brought them up alone as a single parent (with one day a week contact with their dad) his choice. I had a family who gave some help with childcare if I had to work, I worked part time and always tried to make sure I was there for them helping them doing home work and all the school pick ups. I had their friends round for sleepovers, gave them birthday parties, we had a nice life although on a budget with affordable UK break holidays. They always had clean clothes and food in the house and toys and stuff.

I supported them with their life choices to work retail jobs and not go to uni as I didn’t go to uni myself so no judgement on that. I didn’t have boyfriends move in. They used to help out in the house with chores and get pocket money and we were a team. I’ve done all the lifts here and there, helped them learn to drive. I wasn’t too strict or too lenient on them, they had rules in the house and would lose a device or be expected to apologise for bad behaviour.

the lockdown was the worst thing that happened to our relationship. They were hanging at home all day from college & 6th form with not much to do and I was juggling a very stressful job, the house, money and everything. I worried they were depressed so I tried to make sure they had help and support available to them but they started to act resentful and rude towards me and I probably resent them a bit too now.

I now feel trapped in my own home with rude and disrespectful brats who come and go as they please dropping shit everywhere and yelling at me if I ever ask them to help out. They do zero chores, they trash the house, blame each other for everything. From me going out to work for 9 hours I come back and feel depressed as the house stinks of old food, the bathroom is always disgusting, their rooms are a mess and they just come back home from work or friends, expect to use the washing machine and shower and mess up the kitchen then disappear for a few days. I clear it all up and then it’s nice for a day or 2 then back to being awful. When I try to talk to them they say well am never here, it was my sibling who did other or that they are too busy and have other things to do.

I am not important, I feel like a servant who is just trash to them. Whenever I try to tell them how I am feeling or why my time isn’t important too they just say I’m selfish and make everything about me. I don’t even have high standards. They won’t leave I’ve asked them to move out. I’ve added up that I cleaned up all this mess on Tuesday, Thursday and today and it took about 2-3 hours each time. This involves bleaching the bathroom which is covered in hair, toothpaste, splats of all their products up the walls and mirrors, hoovering the downstairs but first I have to pick everything up like trash spread around, sorting out the cats mess (their cat they never help), finding all the stuff to load into the dishwasher, scraping all the plates that didn’t clean the first time in the dishwasher because they don’t rinse them, taking out all the rubbish which I have to sort into recycling. They block up all the sinks somehow. I don’t even get round to cleaning other stuff like the windows or sorting out the garden because I’m doing all the work indoors.

I know the answer is to throw them out I suppose I believe this is my own fault I have raised these kids and the way they have turned out I only have myself to blame?

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CuttySarcasm · 28/09/2024 18:41

How old are they? Do they work? They need to fine a room/house share like everyone else in their early 20s.

SunnieShine · 28/09/2024 18:43

Do you rent or own your house?

GinForBreakfast · 28/09/2024 18:44

Send them to live with their dad. They sound horrendous.

Hayley1256 · 28/09/2024 18:44

Do you rent or own OP? If you rent I would just move out. If you own, I would give them notice that they need to move out and if they don't take it seriously then pack up their things, leave them outside and change the locks. Tell them they are welcome back when they learn how to be respectful and will help you sort out painting the house etc

Lilactimes · 28/09/2024 18:46

I’m so sorry OP - this isn’t on you - you sound amazing… sounds like an age thing and the fact they haven’t lived on their own and haven’t realised the work involved.

i know kicking them out is an option and maybe it will come to that.

Before you do that have you tried a proper sit down mature talk with them? just start crying, tell them you’re broken, sad and can’t do it anymore… you’re exhausted and you need help. Maybe this will shock them as they will be decent people underneath - just selfish at this time of life. They probably think you cope and you’re a bit of a nag and don’t really understand the impact it’s having on you. Take some pictures of the mess you’ve cleared up and print them out. Really close up of the hair, the grease, the rubbish. Then when you’re crying get these out and say I just can’t deal with this in my house anymore..
Then ask them “how can you help?” And see what they say?
Don’t Nag, don’t get angry ask them for solutions…
Then finish off with the line “and if you don’t help and contribute (or even pay for a cleaner out of their wages) then you will ask them to leave and you are deadly serious.

MereDintofPandiculation · 28/09/2024 18:47

It is a choice why are they like this. Because they're different people from you.

parietal · 28/09/2024 18:47

I agree with moving yourself. You are coming to a new stage of life where you can be independent of your kids so find yourself a new place that suits you as a single lady. Maybe somewhere with a garden or some nice feature. Then make the move and they will have to do their own thing.

MattDamon · 28/09/2024 18:47

The transition will be painful but living in shared accommodation with their peers will be good for them and you.

Give them a date, offer to help, but stick to it. Book a locksmith to change the locks the week before they are due to leave and advise them their personal items will be left outside the front door if they don't remove them.

If you think it might help, I'd have another adult with you when you tell them, and on the day they move out. It might force them to behave.

InBedBy10 · 28/09/2024 18:50

Hayley1256 · 28/09/2024 18:44

Do you rent or own OP? If you rent I would just move out. If you own, I would give them notice that they need to move out and if they don't take it seriously then pack up their things, leave them outside and change the locks. Tell them they are welcome back when they learn how to be respectful and will help you sort out painting the house etc

Edited

This. 100% this.

Familiarity breeds contempt.

They have no respect for you an take you for granted. Give them a date then change the locks.

HoppityBun · 28/09/2024 18:52

Downsize. You’ve done everything you could for them. Now it’s your turn

GOODCAT · 28/09/2024 18:53

Explain to them that it is time to move out and they can get a house share separately or together. This is so that they make a successful move to adulthood.

Chillimuma · 28/09/2024 18:53

Are they 18+. It’s time to move out. We often outgrow our parents at that age. I think your relationship with them will drastically improve. These baby bird aren’t fully grown, time for they to get out of the nest and fly!!

MildredSauce · 28/09/2024 18:53

Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 18:33

I don’t love my home any more it’s become a burden and a depressing place to live.

I have been starving them out by not having any food. I just buy what I eat on the day. We have tins of food but nothing else in the house.

Then plan to move on. Its time, for you all.

GreatNorthBun · 28/09/2024 18:54

It's so hard but yes it does sound like they need to leave.

You will have to sit down and calmly, not triggered by anything or in the middle of an argument about something else, but just one morning next week ask them to sit down and talk with you. Then you will have to say that them living in your house is not working and making you terribly unhappy. You are giving them them one month's notice to quit (or six weeks if you think that will help, but it likely won't). Write this down with the end date clear.

Don't be drawn on this or hope yourself secretly to use it as an ultimatum to change their behaviour. You might get some temporary improvement but it will just prolong the agony in truth. You've said all the things you've tried. You have tried enough.

Tell them you love them and you will help them move, but it's time now for them to live independently.

It will probably be awful, in the moment, and difficult for a while, but better in the end than this. Good luck. x

HateThese4Leggedbeasts · 28/09/2024 18:56

I think you should print out your OP and show it to them. They might understand how strongly you feel Vs their view "it's just mum's normal nagging" .

Kosenrufugirl · 28/09/2024 18:57

Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 18:07

I did try to encourage it but they didn’t want to. They both did further education but not uni. I could not force them. It was lockdown times during decision making this didn’t help. I didn’t discourage it I just didn’t go hard on them about their decision. I do wish they had gone to uni. I wish this every day!

My sister in law's son wasn't really interested in school. So she made sure he got himself a job age 16. Which he did, Tesco job full time. He went to uni age 25, did very well and he is now working in a very competitive field (film making). Not going to college or uni after school (or not going at all) is a perfectly valid option

Octavia64 · 28/09/2024 18:57

You aren't a bad parent,

Many late teens/early twenties go through a stage of not giving a shit about their living environment and living with people who aren't their parents and have rows with them helps rub off some of the sharp corners.

Time they moved out.

Do you rent or own?

Either way plan to downsize and they'll need to find somewhere.

ZippyDenimBear · 28/09/2024 18:58

Blanketyre · 28/09/2024 18:04

How old are they. What a shame you didn't encourage them to go to university or college.

At that age, the life decisions are not on the parent.

pseudonymyname · 28/09/2024 18:58

My son's the same, but I tell him as soon as he's left any mess to clear it up, which he usually does. But he will clean some of it and not really do it properly a lot of the time. He stayed with his dad for a few weeks last year, and I couldn't believe how clean everything was and stayed.

pseudonymyname · 28/09/2024 18:59

I don' think you should tell them to move out though. People will say that but in reality it won't be that easy for you

FancyRedRobin · 28/09/2024 19:00

Some kids can live respectfully in their family home as adults, without having to move out first for a period of time. I think most can't though. Other parents get through this because their kids move out for uni or training and this natural break happens.
It hasn't for you so you need to make that break happen. It's part of parenting them really, making them ready to live in an adult way alongside other adults. They probably won't make good partners until they do. Putting off giving this lesson won't work either.

thepariscrimefiles · 28/09/2024 19:00

I know that lockdown was really difficult for young people, but your children seem to have all had personality transplants during that period.

Unlike when women reach the end of their tether with horrible partners/husbands but can't throw them out or change the locks as their names are on the tenancy/mortgage, you can actually do this.

None of this is reasonable behaviour from 20-something young adults.

Nothinglikeagoodbook · 28/09/2024 19:01

Show them this whole thread.

waterrat · 28/09/2024 19:02

Op - I really feel reading this that there are some perhaps deeper issues in why you can't just ask them - as adults - to move on to adult/ young adult house share where they can learn to become tidier in a more normal envionrment for their own age. I was a student and lived in a pig sty with other students and we bickered about mess etc, its how I learnt to grow up a bit!

they are being kept in an 'infantile' state by you - beacuse as the 'nag' mother figure they feel they are still children -

They may be going through a bad phase and just need to grow up a bit

I wonder if you feel a lot of guilt about what they went through in covid and your own pressures you were under - and are over compensating.

It's absolutely normal - and vital!!! - that young adults move out of home - why would they stay with you? you are all clearly unhappy

I would accept they are going to need your help to move out and get on with doing that.

Rosesanddaffs · 28/09/2024 19:03

@Pepsimaz you sound like such a lovely mum, I wish I had a mum like you.

You are not to blame, they are adults and whatever their issues are, it’s on them.

For your own sanity, you need to tell them to move. This cannot go on, my mum would have slaughtered me if I treated her and the house like that.

They seriously don’t realise how lucky they are xx