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I love my kids but they have not turned out as I hoped

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Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 17:57

I have young adult kids who live at home and I’ve brought them up alone as a single parent (with one day a week contact with their dad) his choice. I had a family who gave some help with childcare if I had to work, I worked part time and always tried to make sure I was there for them helping them doing home work and all the school pick ups. I had their friends round for sleepovers, gave them birthday parties, we had a nice life although on a budget with affordable UK break holidays. They always had clean clothes and food in the house and toys and stuff.

I supported them with their life choices to work retail jobs and not go to uni as I didn’t go to uni myself so no judgement on that. I didn’t have boyfriends move in. They used to help out in the house with chores and get pocket money and we were a team. I’ve done all the lifts here and there, helped them learn to drive. I wasn’t too strict or too lenient on them, they had rules in the house and would lose a device or be expected to apologise for bad behaviour.

the lockdown was the worst thing that happened to our relationship. They were hanging at home all day from college & 6th form with not much to do and I was juggling a very stressful job, the house, money and everything. I worried they were depressed so I tried to make sure they had help and support available to them but they started to act resentful and rude towards me and I probably resent them a bit too now.

I now feel trapped in my own home with rude and disrespectful brats who come and go as they please dropping shit everywhere and yelling at me if I ever ask them to help out. They do zero chores, they trash the house, blame each other for everything. From me going out to work for 9 hours I come back and feel depressed as the house stinks of old food, the bathroom is always disgusting, their rooms are a mess and they just come back home from work or friends, expect to use the washing machine and shower and mess up the kitchen then disappear for a few days. I clear it all up and then it’s nice for a day or 2 then back to being awful. When I try to talk to them they say well am never here, it was my sibling who did other or that they are too busy and have other things to do.

I am not important, I feel like a servant who is just trash to them. Whenever I try to tell them how I am feeling or why my time isn’t important too they just say I’m selfish and make everything about me. I don’t even have high standards. They won’t leave I’ve asked them to move out. I’ve added up that I cleaned up all this mess on Tuesday, Thursday and today and it took about 2-3 hours each time. This involves bleaching the bathroom which is covered in hair, toothpaste, splats of all their products up the walls and mirrors, hoovering the downstairs but first I have to pick everything up like trash spread around, sorting out the cats mess (their cat they never help), finding all the stuff to load into the dishwasher, scraping all the plates that didn’t clean the first time in the dishwasher because they don’t rinse them, taking out all the rubbish which I have to sort into recycling. They block up all the sinks somehow. I don’t even get round to cleaning other stuff like the windows or sorting out the garden because I’m doing all the work indoors.

I know the answer is to throw them out I suppose I believe this is my own fault I have raised these kids and the way they have turned out I only have myself to blame?

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Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 18:21

@muggart I have tried not taking it personally and just getting on with it. I have tried asking nicely. I’ve tried not asking at all. I’ve tried demanding help. I’ve tried going on strike. I’ve tried moving out for a week. I’ve tried cutting off WiFi. I’ve tried a chore chart. I’ve tried to get them to leave. I am considering just leaving my own home and taking my stuff and moving out. I hate living here. The house is getting more and more run down and so am I. I need to repaint walls cos things like food splat stains down it that won’t clean off. Stains on the carpets, carpets only 4 years old. Today I asked my child to help out and they screamed and cried at me for about half an hour saying all kinds of horrible stuff then I had to go clean up the bathroom and there was pubes everywhere and it felt so degrading I decided to have an existential crisis on Mumsnet

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JaneFondue · 28/09/2024 18:21

Don;t know how old they are, but in my experience young adults improve greatly when they are a little older. Your relationship will improve.

mollyfolk · 28/09/2024 18:23

You sound like an amazing mum. Don't blame yourself. Young adults are very immature and it's a difficult time. I became very lost at this time myself but I became more grounded and found my own way.

If they can afford to rent a room it's probably the best thing to get them to do. You don't have to be horrible about it just give them a long time frame to sort themselves and tell them they are always welcome home for a visit.

Nanny0gg · 28/09/2024 18:24

They are disgusting and there's no excuse. And it's not your fault

I didn't have food up the walls when I had toddlers!

Sit down and tell them you'll help them find a room share but they will be out by January

If they think you're not serious they'll find out when their belongings are bagged up and in the garden

HappyMummaOfOne · 28/09/2024 18:25

How about make it really awful for them to live at home that they will WANT to move out? 😈
padlock on the bathroom and they only get access once they have cleaned their room/mess. (Tough luck if they need a shower whilst you are at work). Remove all plates and cutlery from the kitchen and lock them in your room, again they can have access if they agree to wash and return straight away.
they want to use the washing machine…well I hope they have their own washing powder as yours is locked away 😏
once they realise you are serious (yes there will of course be a period of them being annoyed and probably childish and screaming at you but if you don’t buckle they will HAVE to change!)
You are their mother NOT their maid and they need to start respecting you and your home!
good luck xx

Nanny0gg · 28/09/2024 18:25

And I hope they're not getting money from you

Zoombaroomba · 28/09/2024 18:26

@Blanketyre don’t be so cruel. Saying ‘What a shame’ when what you mean is ‘I have judged you to be lacking as you didn’t force your children to go to university despite knowing less than nothing about your personal circumstances’.

@Pepsimaz I’m so sorry, this sounds like actual hell, no one should be made to feel like this in their own home. Lots of good advice coming up, I really hope you find a solution x

marshmalloo · 28/09/2024 18:26

So sorry for your situation OP, this sounds so stressful.

How old are they? Are they both in employment ?

Teacherprebaby · 28/09/2024 18:29

Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 18:08

No they can’t afford it. I’ve thought about moving out but they can’t afford it between them. They would have to rent a room. I’m ok with that, I think that’s that they need to do. They aren’t leaving when I have told them to leave if they are that miserable here then go

Easy, change the locks. That is what they deserve the brats.

TimelyIntervention · 28/09/2024 18:29

Doesnt sound like you’ve done any parenting wrong OP, except perhaps getting a bit lax (understandably) over Covid and not really getting control of the situation again.

Time for them to move out. Don’t suggest it, tell them. Give them a deadline. Be clear that if they don’t sort it out, their stuff will be in bin bags outside on that day. Renting a room is absolutely fine, it’s a totally normal housing situation for a young person.

Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 18:30

@HappyMummaOfOne I haven’t tried this

I thought me moving out would help but they just blamed each other and the one that is very lazy but less confrontational did clean it all up. One of them is much worse than the other one. Combined they are some kind of hell. I could live with the non confrontational one because they are gross and have to be nagged but they will end up doing it without being nasty

No they do not get any money from me. They have money but they could only afford to rent a room. You know what, they would expect me to fucking find the room for them to rent then move all their shit in too probably

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Rubyandscarlett · 28/09/2024 18:31

You sound like a wonderful parent op - this isn't on you.

MildredSauce · 28/09/2024 18:31

You love them. You don't like them right now and I can see why. It's not your fault; it's a combination of things and you need to change the dynamic

Is moving onwards and out an attractive prospect for you, or do you love your home?

TomatoSandwiches · 28/09/2024 18:32

They would have learnt some of this when living with others at uni, but now you need to get them out.

I would say from January they have 3 months to find a room to rent somewhere else, whether that's renting together or with friends or strangers it is a necessary stage to go through to appreciate independent living.

Just do it, they may kick off but hold still and repeat what is going to happen, no more chances they get to sink or swim like everyone else.

You don't want to be stuck in this same situation with a pair of 30 yr olds at home, honestly they just need a push.

Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 18:33

I don’t love my home any more it’s become a burden and a depressing place to live.

I have been starving them out by not having any food. I just buy what I eat on the day. We have tins of food but nothing else in the house.

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leafybrew · 28/09/2024 18:33

@Blanketyre in 2023 more than 65 per cent of school leavers did not attend university. Also many people leaving university with a degree don't always get a great paying job - of course it helps. But doesn't always follow.

What a shame you can't check some facts before making people feel bad when they're already low.

JaneFondue · 28/09/2024 18:34

Absolutely forget the mum guilt. You have done nothing wrong. Many people are messy; my DD was terrible but has improved.
Get them to move out into a room
When all is done, find something you do just for yourself. If you can afford a holiday, take it. If not, even just a weekend break with a friend or a yoga class or something just for yourself. You sound like you need to find yourself again.

Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 18:35

It’s ok I don’t mind the uni thing I wish so much they had gone. It would have helped them I agree.

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pseudonymyname · 28/09/2024 18:35

I think people don't really learn to clean until they have their own place. They leave lots of little messes not really comprehending that it all adds up to a big mess to have to clean. So they spill sugar on the worktop and think you're being unreasonable to make a big deal out of it.

MikeRafone · 28/09/2024 18:35

Wheredidileavemycarkeys · 28/09/2024 17:59

I know the answer is to throw them out I suppose

Yep.

When I try to talk to them they say well am never here

yes, about that - it's time to go and let them know you'll be changing the locks on Tuesday week.

They can sofa surf to their hearts content and then get their own places, off you pop

Your mental health is also important

Dontlletmedownbruce · 28/09/2024 18:36

Did you post a few months back OP? If not, there was someone with a very similar scenario.

I'd be doing what @HappyMummaOfOne suggests. Make life difficult.

It's not the same exactly but my DS1 16 throws his helmet on the hall floor although it has its own spot, and when he does I pick it up and hang it up very high on a hook in another room and it drives him crazy when he is rushing. I refuse to do his laundry if he doesn't do his chores so he eventually caves when he needs sports gear washed. I have on occasion picked up all his shoes randomly thrown around the house and put them in a plastic bag in the shed threatening to bin them next time. It's exhausting but words just do not work. I have to be petty to get the message across.

leafybrew · 28/09/2024 18:36

@Pepsimaz how old are they?

leafybrew · 28/09/2024 18:37

I also have adult kids at home - but they will help out with things, and pay 'rent' each month. Rent is in brackets as it's not very much.

Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 18:37

pseudonymyname · 28/09/2024 18:35

I think people don't really learn to clean until they have their own place. They leave lots of little messes not really comprehending that it all adds up to a big mess to have to clean. So they spill sugar on the worktop and think you're being unreasonable to make a big deal out of it.

Yeah I agree. One of them dropped a bag of icing sugar on the floor. They say they cleaned it up. It took me at least an hour to clean it up properly the whole kitchen was a sticky mess. They don’t see it for some reason. They do not see the mess as one big picture.

I am going to tell them to go find a room to rent and be very firm on it. I am not sure whether they will take any notice so I need a plan B

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Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 18:41

They are in their 20’s no I have not posted before. They are old enough to know better but sometimes it seems like they are perpetually 15

They don’t act like this with their dad but they don’t see him much.

I don’t do their laundry but they leave it around everywhere so I have to move it around.

They pay rent. They seem to think a cleaning maid is included with their hotel package of £200pm

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