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I don’t want to give DD (17) gift cards for Christmas

186 replies

ForkTines · 27/09/2024 19:38

This is a genuine AIBU - be a bit gentle.

She’s just told me she wants an Amazon voucher and nothing else. She’s aware that there was a specific budget for the last two Christmases and says she wants that and will spend it as and when and has no plans so I have no idea what it’ll go on. She wants the same for her birthday in February. She’s lovely and says it will give her some freedom.

I’m bothered by this - I don’t think of presents as a money thing. She’s 17 - it’s not like I will lovingly wrap loads of wonderful things and she’s going to get me a Fabergé egg in return ( she’s broke most of the time, so I don’t expect anything, obviously) But I don’t feel comfortable that she sees the Christmas ‘budget’ as something she’s entitled to the way she’s entitled to a winter coat. Between close adults I think of presents as ritual acts of care through thoughtfulness. Like pebbles for penguins. I don’t want to dole it out in vouchers. If my husband got me an Amazon voucher I’d be really quite sad.

I also know I like choosing and buying her presents, so I might be being touchy about letting go or that she might have not liked something/s I’ve bought her.

I’m not sure if I’m being a sentimental looney or stopping in its tracks a tit for tat voucher exchange transaction every year when she leaves home.

For context on her cash flow etc - she gets £50 per month pocket money for keeping all the floors of the house consistently clean - hoover or mop as needed - and both toilets scrubbed without ever having to be nagged or me think about it. She’s a lovely, kind, straight A kid. I have no complaints.

OP posts:
zeibesaffron · 29/09/2024 13:13

I think vouchers or money is fine - she gets a small amount of pocket money so having some extra in her pocket for if and when she sees something she likes would be nice!

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 29/09/2024 13:17

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 27/09/2024 20:07

The point of a gift is to give the recipient pleasure. Half a hundredweight of gift-wrapped tat will please a four year old, but a near-adult wants money because what she wants is what it represents: independence.

I agree with this.

Give her the vouchers. It’s what she would enjoy receiving.

Gifts that are to please the giver aren’t really gifts.

If you like, you can say it will revert to gifts when she leaves home.

FWIW @ForkTines I think she has a lot of chores (with all the mental load of them) for a very small amount of money - the toilet in particular isn’t a nice job, and all the floors is a big one.

£50 a month to never even think about your floors or toilet is an amazing bargain!

Edited to tag OP

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 29/09/2024 13:20

ForkTines · 27/09/2024 20:36

Hooboy - I’ve not posted on AIBU for a few years and it’s just as bracing as I thought it might be! 🙂 Like I said - it’s a genuine AIBU (as in I’ve not decided if I’m being unreasonable and am fully aware of the genuine possibility that I am).

Very grateful for all the forthright responses. My main thing is, as some others have said, that I find vouchers soulless. I’d buy her anything, forever that she needed. I feel like gift giving should involve thought and don’t want to nuture an idea that it’s expected, transactional or meaningless. I also accept I might be being sentimental and need to get a grip.

I’ve never bought anyone a generic bit of tat and think that’s genuinely pointless. Nobody needs a body wash and scrub set.

I think the issue is, 17 yo’s don’t necessarily want to be “nurtured” overtly, or bought for. They want independence and acknowledgement that they are a separate person with their own tastes and judgment as to what they need/ want.

This, to me, would be another reason to up her pocket money. She doesn’t want to be bought forever anything she needs, she wants her own money to make that choice.

HoppityBun · 29/09/2024 13:21

I voted YABU because you are being completely selfish this is aggressive and unnecessarily hostile. The OP has come on here asking for advice. That’s not being completely selfish. She clearly loves her daughter and she’s been the subject of a pile on by people who can’t be bothered to give their opinion politely and with basic decency. I’d be really upset to read most of the personal criticisms on here if I was the OP

Royalshyness · 29/09/2024 13:23

She a lovely child (adult) to have !!!
amazing .. I would give her the vouchers and an extra months pocket money to be honest

SteepAndSteel · 29/09/2024 13:51

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 29/09/2024 13:20

I think the issue is, 17 yo’s don’t necessarily want to be “nurtured” overtly, or bought for. They want independence and acknowledgement that they are a separate person with their own tastes and judgment as to what they need/ want.

This, to me, would be another reason to up her pocket money. She doesn’t want to be bought forever anything she needs, she wants her own money to make that choice.

This ^ 100%

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 29/09/2024 16:05

£50 a month pocket money is about £12.50 a week if it's a 4 week month...

what does she have to do with her pocket money ? as that will not pay for much of a social life.

and you are exploiting her by getting her to clean floors and toilets - as a cleaner would cost more every week !

Bestyearever2024 · 29/09/2024 16:27

Is @ForkTines coming back I wonder? 😀

easylikeasundaymorn · 29/09/2024 17:21

Firstly, I am willing to bet my own money that you are NOT willing to "buy her anything, forever that she needed".

a - That's a big claim for the rest of her life - will you really buy her a house? Car? Pay for her uni fees? Wedding? All her childcare if she has kids. Buy her groceries for the rest of her life? Sounds hyperbolic....
Given you only pay her £12.50ish a week pocket money (the EMA allowance was £30 p/w when I was 17 twenty years ago!) I'd think you are unlikely to be that generous.

b - You're saying that no matter what she asked for, even if you thought it was a complete waste of money, you'd agree? yeah right.

Secondly, she's 17! Perhaps there's stuff she wants that she doesn't want to ask her mum for! Perhaps she wants to buy a vibrator, lube, condoms, alcohol and a vape out of those vouchers! (you can buy all of the above on amazon....)

SteepAndSteel · 29/09/2024 17:27

Firstly, I am willing to bet my own money that you are NOT willing to "buy her anything, forever that she needed".
Well, that's' controlling. Let her by stuff for herself. It's creepy, this level of involvement when your offspring is 17 🤔

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