Labour PIP benefit cuts

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Can someone help me please?

I'm absolutely spiraling. I've just read up about the Labour conference and everything about PIP reforms.

I'm absolutely panicking. I feel like giving up. I'm on PIP with mental health.

I do work. Part time.

Pip numbers are rising because the nhs is failing.

@Staunchlystarling like I said, asset wealthy is not same as cash in the bank wealthy.
Whatever something may be worth, you can't access that immediately like cash in the bank.
Of course, one could argue that they should liquidate their assets but again you can't do that just like that... so, with the announcement of winter fuel allowance cut to actually not receiving a payment, I just think there is not enough time.

Why do you think that pip is £1600 per month? Enhanced pip for those with the worst disabilities is less than half that amount. Standard rate pip is much less than enhanced

Yes but it if a.person is in receipt of both PIP and UC ,the PIP can.have a positive affect on the UC award

No it can't their completely separate you can recieve lcwra without pip. Pip has nothing to do with uc

Not for adults it doesn't. Apart from getting the 1 bedroom rate for housing if under 35. There's only extra money for LCWRA or LCW before April 2017.

Where I live woman next door claims every benifit including pip, claims to have a bad back, every summer I see her carrying crates of budweiser. Been out of work all her life.
4 adults in other house, not one of them has ever worked,and are claming pip etc..., all got arms, all got legs, all got a brain refuse them. All go socialing down the pub and that and go on annual holidays.
Theres a woman further up the road, nowt wrong with her and never had a job in the 30 years i've known her, watches wide screen tv at night.
Another woman who has had 7 children, not a single one of them work Her children are 19-30 odd years old. Her 2 youngest sons are 19 and 21 never had a job claim all benifits.
If people can work then they should work, where is the pride sitting at home if your able.

The misinformation on this thread is shocking people really have no clue what pip is and how difficult it is to get and why it has the lowest fraud rate out of all the benefits by a significant amount. Uc fraud rate is over 12% and pip is 0.4 % as you need so much medical evidence there is absolutely no way of getting it without

You seem to know an awful lot about your neighbours medical records I guarantee you nobody is getting pip because their back hurts

But people who are on PIP and income related ESA ( and there are a lot of them ) will receive enhanced benefit rates when they are awarded PIP. A person living alone with no-one claiming carers allowance for them gets an extra £81.90 a week severe disability premium on their ESA claim because they get PIP. This is why PIP is so important to so many- because they not only get the actual PIP money of up to £800 a month but potentially a lot more on top as well.

There was a full stop there. You can look up their definition if you are interested.

Labour is linked to unions and have already shown priority with payments.

If your sympathy stops for pensioners because you know some people and you don't care about those on basic state pensions who are losing the WFA, then the same lack of sympathy could come round for benefit claimants

Well it's hardly a new thing. My DS lost his PIP earlier this year after being granted it for three years. They did a sudden review, I had to do a phone assessment and they said he didn't qualify.

I thought esa had moved over to uc or is in the process of moving over I get pip and universal credit I didn't know I could claim esa

Yes it gives a higher LHA for people over 35. It also means if one of a couple are in receipt of daily living PIP the other can claim a carers element no matter how much they work or earn. It also lifts the benefit cap which can make a huge difference. It also means someone can be assessed for LCW/ LCWRA even if they are earning more than 16xnmw. As a knock on , someone getting LCW or LCWRA can have a huge impact for example in a couples claim where they have no kids as if the other partner is working they then start getting a work allowance too which further boosts the UC claim. So yes a PIP award can have huge implications for a Uc claim. PIP is a hugely beneficial benefit to secure with it's implications for just about every other benefit.

@Differentstarts i'm only going on what she has told me herself, and like I say shes not got a bad back carrying budweiser crates into her house.
I've been here over 20years it would be quicker to tell you who works on this street, there is just me and people in my household and about 5 other house holds work. All the rest claim benifits like pip.
i know this because I talk to all my neighbours.

You can still claim contribution based ESA I think.

It is moving over but for now there are huge numbers still on the old ESA. they are starting to be moved across now. Contributions based ESA can still be claimed.

Why aren’t you reporting these fraudsters?

Brings in what?

I could not claim ESA, as I live in a full UC area. I think you can still claim contributions based ESA though.
Everyone is getting moved over to UC though.

Don't believe what people are telling you obviously you can't get pip for your back hurting unless she had multiple scan images and consultant letters showing actual severe damage. Dates of surgeries and hospital stays a gp letter alone wouldn't be enough to qualify for pip

@Bignanna I try to keep myself to myself, I would not like to report them because I don't want to make enemies with my neighbours.
They are nice people, but I feel from what i've seen and heard that they would be capable of some work.

Oh, people claim they do and that "nothing happens"... maybe because they were investigated and found to be a genuine claim.

I can't take seriously a post that mentions someone's TV as some sort of proof they are a fraud. It is straight out of the DM.

Yeah I got moved over nearly a year ago I was getting pip and wtc then the wtc went and changed to universal credit. I didn't know lcrwa existed until universal credit contacted me to ask why I only work part time

@Differentstarts I just don't understand how she claims to have a bad back, but then is seen carrying crates of bud into the house.