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That makes me feel sad! Is this the new "be kind"

250 replies

10milliondollars · 25/09/2024 20:23

Is this now a thing?

I've had a couple of disagreements recently with adults who like to push the boundaries when they don't get their own way - their response has been that makes me feel sad - is it me or is it such a weird thing to say to another adult you have a difference of opinion with - both adults had no right to their demands and I said I would not do what they wanted. Most people feel sad when they don't get their own way - but they don't lay the guilt on other people.

I think these people are being manipulative - AIBU.

OP posts:
BooBooDoodle · 26/09/2024 18:10

Tell them to man the fuck up. Such a childish response.

Laura95167 · 26/09/2024 18:19

10milliondollars · 25/09/2024 20:23

Is this now a thing?

I've had a couple of disagreements recently with adults who like to push the boundaries when they don't get their own way - their response has been that makes me feel sad - is it me or is it such a weird thing to say to another adult you have a difference of opinion with - both adults had no right to their demands and I said I would not do what they wanted. Most people feel sad when they don't get their own way - but they don't lay the guilt on other people.

I think these people are being manipulative - AIBU.

Just respond, "I'm glad you feel despite our differences of opinion you're comfortable enough to express your feelings"

Leave it at that. They're entitled to their feelings as much as their opinion. You aren't responsible for either.

AngelinaFibres · 26/09/2024 18:20

10milliondollars · 25/09/2024 20:41

You know that's not the way to speak to people outside a clinical environment. I think even in a clinical environment your approach would annoy me - and make me feel you were being manipulative and that you lack authenticity - that can't be your own voice?

Oh this with bells on. That whole post you have quoted makes my skin crawl.We need a bit more resilience not all this ' naming feelings'.

Deeperthantheocean · 26/09/2024 18:24

That's what my son said to me earlier, clearly copied it from the teacher.

RecklessGoddess · 26/09/2024 18:45

10milliondollars · 25/09/2024 20:23

Is this now a thing?

I've had a couple of disagreements recently with adults who like to push the boundaries when they don't get their own way - their response has been that makes me feel sad - is it me or is it such a weird thing to say to another adult you have a difference of opinion with - both adults had no right to their demands and I said I would not do what they wanted. Most people feel sad when they don't get their own way - but they don't lay the guilt on other people.

I think these people are being manipulative - AIBU.

Maybe just say "well it's a good job you're an adult, and you're old enough to know, that's not going to make another adult change their mind!"

anon666 · 26/09/2024 18:57

Trying to think of the appropriate rebuttal.

Is it:
"I'm sorry you feel that way"

Or is it:
"Okay, thanks for sharing that"

😅

laraitopbanana · 26/09/2024 19:16

Adults are becoming more and more childrenlike. We have a life of comfort so no wonder…

laraitopbanana · 26/09/2024 19:18

anon666 · 26/09/2024 18:57

Trying to think of the appropriate rebuttal.

Is it:
"I'm sorry you feel that way"

Or is it:
"Okay, thanks for sharing that"

😅

« I bet you do. »

« Ok. »

« Do you need a hug? »

XChrome · 26/09/2024 19:44

followingthebreath · 26/09/2024 07:04

I'm fascinated by this thread! I think I'm a 'that makes me sad' person... I'm also NT, professional, good friends, functional, not manipulative, as normal as the next person.

I'd say 'I'm hugely sad' if someone I know had a loss. Or 'I'm saddened' by the conflict in Gaza or 'I'm feeling so sad today' about a personal issue for example.

Do these count as what we are talking about? If I had a disagreement with a friend I might say 'I feel so sad that I've hurt you and I so sorry can we talk about it?'

I'm genuinely surprised to read the intense reaction people are having to others expressing an emotions. ' sad is just an emotion isn't it? Not manipulative in itself. Just a way of communicating how we feel?

Have I misunderstood the context? I wouldn't tell someone they'd made me sad because my feelings are my own responsibility so maybe that's what we're discussing here?

Yes, you have misunderstood. As per the OP, this is about people using "that makes me sad" to manipulate others when they won't give them want they want.
What you are describing, though, is completely appropriate. This isn't about genuine emotions, but fake ones used for manipulation, because when somebody does that, their "sadness" is phoney.

XChrome · 26/09/2024 19:46

laraitopbanana · 26/09/2024 19:16

Adults are becoming more and more childrenlike. We have a life of comfort so no wonder…

Edit; posted by mistake. Apologies.

XChrome · 26/09/2024 19:49

anon666 · 26/09/2024 18:57

Trying to think of the appropriate rebuttal.

Is it:
"I'm sorry you feel that way"

Or is it:
"Okay, thanks for sharing that"

😅

When they are being obviously manipulative;
"Would you like a tissue?"

Playinwithfire · 26/09/2024 19:50

My reply "aww sorry to hear that, however, its not my responsibility to make you better"

XChrome · 26/09/2024 19:58

followingthebreath · 26/09/2024 10:00

The replies to my question have been really helpful in unpicking this, thank you.

I think this is context v. actual phrase.

Some people are objecting to the use of the phrase itself, the words. Others don't mind the words in the right context but are objecting to the use of 'I am sad' to manipulate.

As as 'I am sad' person in some limited contexts I'm definitely not someone who would use it to manipulate but I feel that expressing my emotions in the right context is useful, mature and can be part of good communication.

Absolutely. It's when the words are used to manipulate people that it becomes a problem, or used in an inappropriate setting like the workplace or when you're with people you don't know.

LindorDoubleChoc · 26/09/2024 20:39

Differentstarts · 25/09/2024 22:48

Wow iv never heard anyone above the age of 5 say this I would laugh in adults face if they said this then repeatedly bring it up and take the piss out of them for the next 50 years

Me too!

followingthebreath · 26/09/2024 21:03

@XChrome you're right, I did misunderstand and I'm quite reassured by your post thank you.

Having said that, I'm pretty sure a good number of comments here have also mis understood and are literally saying that the phrase 'I am sad' in any context is immature and over sharing. This is more alarming as I'm definitely on the side of appropriate sharing of emotions when needed.

MayNov · 26/09/2024 21:19

My 2 and a half year old tells me this whenever I say no to her, she learned it at nursery alongside “kind hands” and “not a kind friend” and many other wise proclamations.

Illegally18 · 26/09/2024 21:33

laraitopbanana · 26/09/2024 19:18

« I bet you do. »

« Ok. »

« Do you need a hug? »

The rebuttals are getting better and better! 😂 Am noting more and more down!

XChrome · 26/09/2024 21:42

Illegally18 · 26/09/2024 21:33

The rebuttals are getting better and better! 😂 Am noting more and more down!

"I can give you the name of a good grief therapist."

"I have antidepressants in my purse if you're interested."

"Will it go from sadness to PTSD the next time I see you?"

XChrome · 26/09/2024 21:45

followingthebreath · 26/09/2024 21:03

@XChrome you're right, I did misunderstand and I'm quite reassured by your post thank you.

Having said that, I'm pretty sure a good number of comments here have also mis understood and are literally saying that the phrase 'I am sad' in any context is immature and over sharing. This is more alarming as I'm definitely on the side of appropriate sharing of emotions when needed.

Yes, there have been some posts like that. They are best ignored, are probably bullies or at least wannabe bullies.

Illegally18 · 26/09/2024 22:12

XChrome · 26/09/2024 21:42

"I can give you the name of a good grief therapist."

"I have antidepressants in my purse if you're interested."

"Will it go from sadness to PTSD the next time I see you?"

😂😂😂😂

Catsmere · 26/09/2024 22:23

Thisgroupneverceasestoamazeme · 26/09/2024 09:28

There are a lot of people very uncomfortable with emotions on here!! How terribly British! It’s interesting how many people are taking how another person is feeling so personally. A person can share what they wish with you. It’s what you then choose to do with it (you could reflect on it and accept it, shrug it off or reject it in your mind) and so many say they would choose to respond by being unpleasant.

Bollocks, it's nothing to do with "being uncomfortable with emotions" - it's recognising manipulative, dishonest therapy-speak. And if you want to bring nationality into it, as a PP pointed out, this is US therapy crap. You're also assuming everyone responding is British - nope!

axolotlfloof · 26/09/2024 22:53

MrsSunshine2b · 25/09/2024 21:21

They have a right to feel sad and express that. I would respond, "I'm sorry you feel sad." and then continue with whatever it is you are doing.

And we have a right to be disinterested in their manipulative feelings.

MrsCarson · 26/09/2024 22:56

I'm thinking, "that sounds like a you problem" seems an appropriate answer.

axolotlfloof · 26/09/2024 22:58

This reminds me of friends' 3 year old hitting my 2 year old with a stick. Friend said "that makes me feel sad". 3 y o completely unaffected.
So I took the stick away, and said "No hitting".
It's immature and manipulative.
Also I think I might laugh if an adult said that in all seriousness.

Catsmere · 27/09/2024 00:11

"That makes me feel sad"

"Don't talk to me like I'm a three year old. If you have an objection, say what it is."

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