Female nurses have to get changed with a male. They are told to go to another room. The man keeps the female changing room to himself. Wtaf is going on?

[TealTraybake]

Female nurses ‘forced out of changing rooms’ after complaining about trans colleague

NHS whistleblowers dubbed ‘Darlington Five’ say they feel ‘humiliated and dehumanised’

Read in The Telegraph: https://apple.news/AC7RGaXTPTYe2J4CAixEvDw

(also I’m straight and have no interest in being “picked” by a trans woman, but that’s by the by).

She said "boys", not "trans women". Revealing.

Oh look the gotcha.

Of course the bit about 'discretely' and without telling the entire workforce, passed you by.

Of course, you can't do that if you have 'women' and 'women's only'.

That's the difference.

Awww, I was going to say Don't go, you haven't told us the answer to
'BTW What is a trans woman?' yet.

But I see you're back already. Such a cliche.

In regards to 'cis'.

Based on posts from another thread where a poster assured us that cis women are what we should be talking about when referring to two male boxers who competed in the female category of boxing in the Paris Olympics, I decided that we need as many women who read these threads to understand just what that term means.

The term 'cis' is now meaningless because it also now includes any male person who has a DSD yet has a body that is **formed around the production of small gametes, ie. a male person with a difference of sex development that have testes or testes tissue. Such as Caster Semenya.

Therefore, female people have no unique words that describe just those female people who have a body ^^formed around the production of large gametes.

None.

There is no word left for female people. Because even male people are now saying they are also ‘female’.

Because 'girl' and 'woman' both now include:

1 Male person who has been incorrectly registered as a female at birth, but has a male body **.

2 Any male person has now claimed a transgender identity using those labels.

3 And any person who has a female body ^^.

Under the label of 'girl' and 'woman', extreme transgender activists have been telling us for years that those labels break down into two types of girls or women:

Cis and Transwomen/transgirls.

These terms mean:

Cis = 1 Male person who has been incorrectly registered as a female at birth, but has a male body **

and 3 Any person who has a female body^^

Trans = 2 Any male person has now claimed a transgender identity using those labels.

Do people see the issue here? There is no unique word to mean female people who have a body ^^ formed around the production of large gametes.

Cis is now shown to be meaningless.

(sorry, the formatting on this post is probably higgly piggly, hopefully the pic helps)

Of course, do flee instead of answering any questions. This thread serves our purpose to the general readership, and you've been the cliche cowardly MRA.

Well said.
A male ideology imposed on unconsenting women and girls by a certain type of man supported by useful idiots.

I'd be interested to hear your definition - not in order to argue, but in order to understand what you mean. I'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that you are not including men who simply "drag up" from time to time. (I mention this because some authorities now include drag under the trans umbrella.)

i think most trans people would be ok with a third space for “gender critical” women/ girls. But maybe I’m wrong…

The thing is that it would eventually become the female space and transwomen would then demand access to it.

And are more misogynistic and have less rights and protections for women.

Funny that.

And pretty damn transphobic.

This thread serves our purpose to the general readership

These threads do, and that's why TRAs get angry about us and have described Mumsnet as a "radicalisation portal" aka a place where open discussions are had about the reality of gender identity ideology and its utter disregard for women's rights.

Exactly.

Blokes realising they could cope an eye full suddenly start identifying as women so even the accepting women move. Thus the transwomen go up in arms and want to move with the women 'for their safety'.

Just solve the problem.

Women only.

Transwomen have third space.

Non negotiable.

If you are genuinely interested (not just starting a fight) I’ll pm you x

It's disappointing that you're here on a knowledge acquisition exercise but are unwilling to share your own knowledge.

You reckon he's gone away thinking to himself "fuck! I really stuffed that up".

All because we don't believe that gender identity is like being Tinkerbell and saying 'i don't believe in fairies '.

Guess that "knowledge" doesn't count for much in that case.

All because we don't believe that gender identity is like being Tinkerbell and saying 'i don't believe in fairies '.

Exactly! It's so ridiculous that it's come to this.

Just like if women actually started referring to themselves as "cis women" in large numbers, trans women would start identifying as cis women on the grounds that they were assigned a female gender identity at birth.

Why not have the courage of your convictions and post it publically? Nobody's going to bite. I'd be interested too as no one ever seems to be able to answer.

Can you PM me with your definition too please?

Pp’s on this thread have made it clear they call trans women “men”, “boys” , “male”. Her comment made no sense to me unless she was using language in this way- why would a non trans man be more likely to “pick me” for supporting trans women? Nonsensical.

If you were genuine, and not a typical gutless wonder, you'd post it on here with the knowledge it could stand up to scrutiny, instead of hiding like a gutless, snivelling coward admitting defeat.

Gentle reader, there is a reason MRAs/TRAs always run away from debates, and feminists NEVER do....

Has it ever been suggested that there should be a linit to only those transwoman further along the path? Or even a "no boner" rule, one strike a warning, two strikes you're out! Genuine question, not having been a close follower of the debate.

If he PMs his definition to anyone, post it publicly on this thread. Every reader deserves to see his 'definition'.