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Why is mumsnet so sexist?

324 replies

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 10:41

Been on here a few months, and while it’s nice to see women sticking up for woman, it’s crazy how sexist some people are on here. I’ve seen threads telling a women to leave her partners name off the BC as revenge because he’s cheated, I’ve seen posts saying “not surprised about huw Edward’s, no men can control themselves” and other numerous anti male threads and posts.

im a female for reference.

curious to see peoples opinions

YABU- it’s not constantly sexist on here
YANBU- it is constantly sexist on here

OP posts:
Lucy25 · 28/09/2024 00:58

chisanunian · 28/09/2024 00:36

Do you know what my husband said earlier? We were watching the news, and most of the news stories were, as is often the case at the moment, about war, people promising revenge for attacks, you name it.

DH said: "It's always men, isn't it? It's men who do all this, isn't it?".

He's not wrong.

Yes.
I don’t think l understood the original post, but after reading comments, l do.
I don’t get, why OP, is concerned, men are being treated unfairly on MN, why would men want to be on MN in the first place.Of course there’s sexism everywhere, which is what women have to deal with in every day life.On this forum there’s far more sexism towards women and l believe it’s coming from men.

Petitchat · 28/09/2024 02:27

vivainsomnia · 23/09/2024 11:28

I personally don't recognise at all the men described here, thankfully!

Of course they have their faults, but so do women. I find the whole 'us' and 'them' so childish.

Violence is that, violence, whether perpetrated by men or women. I don't get why we can't fight against it without making it a men only issue.

Because it has been proven that it IS mostly a men only issue.....

Hellostrawberries · 28/09/2024 05:23

I agree with you OP. You've been given a hard time on here, mostly by people who don't understand statistics. It may be true that 97% of violent crimes are committed by men. But that doesn't mean that 97% of men are violent. The vast majority are lovely.

Lovefromjuliaxo · 28/09/2024 07:04

GroaningGyrtle · 23/09/2024 11:09

Sexism is the systemic oppression of one sex — ie female people. It doesn’t go the other way, same as reverse racism isn’t a thing.

so you can’t be sexist towards men, or racist towards white people?

OP posts:
5128gap · 28/09/2024 08:54

Lovefromjuliaxo · 28/09/2024 07:04

so you can’t be sexist towards men, or racist towards white people?

How about you tell us how sexism towards men manifests, and the harm and oppression being caused to men by it. Then we can compare what you're referring to with the more usual understanding of sexism (the men to women kind) and let you know if it fits our understanding of the term.

EarthlyNightshade · 28/09/2024 10:59

Hellostrawberries · 28/09/2024 05:23

I agree with you OP. You've been given a hard time on here, mostly by people who don't understand statistics. It may be true that 97% of violent crimes are committed by men. But that doesn't mean that 97% of men are violent. The vast majority are lovely.

Does it not trouble you that men are responsible for 97% of violent crimes?

Thelnebriati · 28/09/2024 11:18

Hellostrawberries · 28/09/2024 05:23

I agree with you OP. You've been given a hard time on here, mostly by people who don't understand statistics. It may be true that 97% of violent crimes are committed by men. But that doesn't mean that 97% of men are violent. The vast majority are lovely.

How are we supposed to tell which ones are lovely? Its like saying 'most people aren't burglars so why do you insult me by locking your door?'

TealTraybake · 28/09/2024 11:20

Hellostrawberries · 28/09/2024 05:23

I agree with you OP. You've been given a hard time on here, mostly by people who don't understand statistics. It may be true that 97% of violent crimes are committed by men. But that doesn't mean that 97% of men are violent. The vast majority are lovely.

Namalt namalt namalt!

TealTraybake · 28/09/2024 11:22

Thelnebriati · 28/09/2024 11:18

How are we supposed to tell which ones are lovely? Its like saying 'most people aren't burglars so why do you insult me by locking your door?'

Why should we lock our doors at all. Burglar alarms pointless. Safes, why bother. Lock our cars, waste of time. Not all people are burglars.

Lucy25 · 28/09/2024 11:34

5128gap · 28/09/2024 08:54

How about you tell us how sexism towards men manifests, and the harm and oppression being caused to men by it. Then we can compare what you're referring to with the more usual understanding of sexism (the men to women kind) and let you know if it fits our understanding of the term.

Yes, very valid point.
would be very interested to hear, to comprehend

TheShellBeach · 28/09/2024 12:36

Lovefromjuliaxo · 28/09/2024 07:04

so you can’t be sexist towards men, or racist towards white people?

You can't be racist towards white people, no.

BiologicalKitty · 28/09/2024 12:37

Of course you can be racist against white people, don't be silly. Ever been to Japan?!

Lovefromjuliaxo · 28/09/2024 13:37

TheShellBeach · 28/09/2024 12:36

You can't be racist towards white people, no.

You are talking absolute shite. Like PP has said, is Japan somewhere you’re familiar with?

OP posts:
TealTraybake · 28/09/2024 14:24

A good friend of mine (British Asian) told me many members of her extended family, in the UK, are racist against ‘white people’. She hates it.

RubyOrca · 28/09/2024 14:37

Firsttimemum202 · 23/09/2024 13:23

I can understand reasons why you’d want to, but you can’t change facts, the biological mother and father will never change and that is a fact.

Birth certificates aren’t records of biological facts, they are government documents that have rights and responsibilities attached to them.

I’m not UK and my knowledge isn’t necessarily up to date - but we issue birth certificates with adoptive parents listed, same sex parents listed, non-biological parents in the case of donor conceived (formal or informal). Historically, they issued birth certificates with new information (including birth dates at times) when children were taken by the state, or adopted.

I’m opposed to hiding someone’s children from them, and consider it unethical. But I’m more strongly opposed to abuse, and completely support hiding a child to keep them safe. And so long as there’s a process for a father to request to be added to a BC - if he chooses to not acknowledge his child, and it’s in the mother’s best interests to not be forced to co-parent with someone who doesn’t want to - chances are it’s the child’s best interest to not have that legal connection.

Wheredidileavemycarkeys · 28/09/2024 14:48

I’ve seen threads telling a women to leave her partners name off the BC as revenge because he’s cheated

Don't remember that one myself.

Wheredidileavemycarkeys · 28/09/2024 14:49

TheShellBeach · 28/09/2024 12:36

You can't be racist towards white people, no.

Why not?

Lovefromjuliaxo · 28/09/2024 14:50

RubyOrca · 28/09/2024 14:37

Birth certificates aren’t records of biological facts, they are government documents that have rights and responsibilities attached to them.

I’m not UK and my knowledge isn’t necessarily up to date - but we issue birth certificates with adoptive parents listed, same sex parents listed, non-biological parents in the case of donor conceived (formal or informal). Historically, they issued birth certificates with new information (including birth dates at times) when children were taken by the state, or adopted.

I’m opposed to hiding someone’s children from them, and consider it unethical. But I’m more strongly opposed to abuse, and completely support hiding a child to keep them safe. And so long as there’s a process for a father to request to be added to a BC - if he chooses to not acknowledge his child, and it’s in the mother’s best interests to not be forced to co-parent with someone who doesn’t want to - chances are it’s the child’s best interest to not have that legal connection.

For sure when there’s abuse, but in the thread I read there was none. Just a husband who unfortunately was likely cheating- it was never confirmed but he had a new female friend- but was still attending baby appointments and coped with a random stalker the woman had. His behaviour was wrong but he was not abusive. Yet people were saying if he’s cheating just take him off BC and let him fight to see his child. Missing the important bonding weeks with baby, not bothered about him but for baby’s sake. Many women on here seem to throw out the take him off BC thing right away. Thankfully OP ignored them.

OP posts:
Am1990 · 29/09/2024 00:33

5128gap · 28/09/2024 08:54

How about you tell us how sexism towards men manifests, and the harm and oppression being caused to men by it. Then we can compare what you're referring to with the more usual understanding of sexism (the men to women kind) and let you know if it fits our understanding of the term.

@Lovefromjuliaxo l would also be interested to know what your view is

GBWiz · 19/01/2025 11:03

CrouchingTigerHiddenChocolate · 23/09/2024 10:43

You think it's sexist here? Have you seen the rest of the internet where women are routinely threatened with rape and murder?

You seem to think men don't get discrimination online? Are you crazy?

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GreenYellowBrown · 19/01/2025 11:09

YANBU.

I loathe the threads where women get inheritances and everyone is encouraging them to hide it from their husbands. Yet, if there is utter outrage if a woman posts that her husband has done the same to her.

Can’t have it both ways love 🤷‍♀️

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